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Micro Machine for Symbos / G9k

Started by Trebmint, 23:04, 11 March 25

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Egg Master

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Quote from: Trebmint on 20:40, 18 March 25If you're not interested in a project then its probably better to ignore it and say nothing.
I'm very interested in SymbOS and all related projects. But I also notice that connecting MSX graphics and sound cards to the Z80 via the expansion port to run custom games no longer requires a CPC. I just feel you're attacking me because I don't have the same point of view. It's a great project, but I will prefer to see SymbOS using the Amstrad Plus features.

Quote from: HAL6128 on 21:49, 18 March 25Of course (also an old discussion), it doesn't feel like a CPC anymore (V9990 / OPL4) .... but.... enhancing the CPC is fun and programming it also.
I agree, but here it is more an enhanced MSX game on a Z80 OS. Where can we bought the V9990 or the OPL4 cards for CPC today? I just suggest an alternative with the Mister Pi. They feel offended and tell me to shut up and to go to another forum, it is not kind and respectful.

No worry, I will no more "disturb" you here.

Trebmint

You said it was pointless and to play the megadrive version which given I assume you understand how much time and effort has gone into this so far is not a great thing to say. What you think is still CPC and what isn't CPC is up to you, but many people on the forum bought the g9k hardware, so I dont see that developing for it should be something thats mocked. 

Egg Master

With all this hardware (MSX extensions visible in the video), the CPC no longer produces sound, the image is no longer displayed on the monitor and the USB mouse and gamepad are no longer connected to the keyboard. Anyway, the Tecnobytes V9990 card has been sold out since 2008 (7 years ago!) and, judging by the cpcwiki topic, not many people got it.

As said, I will not post again, so please do not reply to me here. Thank you.

Trebmint

Your opinion is valid, but its more the disrespect for other peoples hard work that's the issue. So you can justify your opinion, but I'm questioning why you even voiced it... it was just a bit nasty and snide

eto

Quote from: Egg Master on 10:41, 19 March 25I just suggest an alternative with the Mister Pi.
Then do it. 


cwpab

While I'm personally not interested in these Super Transformers Megazord versions of the CPC, I also admit they're pretty cool technologically speaking.

And there's also a lot of work behind this stuff, so it's probably wiser not to post negative comments about it... especially in the dedicated topic.  ;D

So I prefer to concentrate in something that both fans and not fans of this could share:

1) A regular Amstrad CPC version of Micro Machines or a similar game would be cool. I'm not sure if there's already any clone available, but I don't think so.

2) My only Micro Machines experience was pretty cool: Mashed, for the Playstation 2. I recommend everyone to try that game, it's a super fun 4 player experience and can be also enjoyed 1 player. The cars that "die" start controlling some helicopter missile crosshair.

Trebmint

I think its a actually an interesting discussion as to where a machine stops actually being the original machine. I guess when it comes to graphics its an extremely personal thing, so whereas you'd happily accept a wifi network card or SD card reader as still canon to the original CPC something that's as different as graphics is just too far. Lots of Spectrum Next guys were mighty annoyed with any game that decided not to have colour clash and that's understandable and personal

As part of the Symbos team for longer that I remember its been the ethos of Prodatron to support every bit of hardware possible, and thats become even more the case when the cross-platform with MSX and Enterprise etc became a thing. Personally I now see Symbos as its own thing that runs on various machines rather than a piece of software that say runs on a CPC, and consequently I now consider myself a symbos developer not a CPC/MSX coder etc. When it comes to the g9k it should be pointed out that its from exactly the same era as the plus machine 1991, so I think to claim it similar to a PI is a bit of a leap. The truth is that somebody could have have this running on a CPC in the early 90's so in many respects I think its a far more valid expansion than some FPGA boards people just seem to accept as fine.

Obviously its a personal viewpoint, but since the hardware exists we committed to supporting it. 

As for Micro Machines itself, I'd be very happy to see it in native mode 0. All development should be applauded as nobody is doing it for the money, but the love and the challenge.


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