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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #175 on: 22:44, 22 May 15 »
Ok read the page, some guy who had a company and they wrote a few games for the CPC. So his opinion is somehow more important than anyone elses? Why does it matter? It's still just one persons opinion.

I also noticed that from the 30 odd games his company wrote, we only have Wiki pages about two of them, so obviously our opinion of him/his company isn't all that high either.

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #176 on: 22:49, 22 May 15 »
I am staying out of this one. I like the mag, and enjoy the multi  format content. OK perhaps a CPC screenshot or 2 was missing in the driller article. But on the whole does this really matter? I thought we had all grown up to a point we could appreciate the various retro and 8bit systems for their individual talents and strengths. The text in the driller article, stating where it was developed was far more important than a few screenshots or a tag-line on the cover.
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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #177 on: 00:45, 23 May 15 »
@Bryce : again, it's not about what he said. (and, actually, it's a shame we don't have more pages on Hewson's titles; certainly their CPC hits/classics were many more than the two).


@CraigsBar : I appreciate what you say, but it still doesn't answer to what has been actually said. It's not, of course, about those "2 screenshots" or about that one tag-line. Alas, if only. It's *precisely* because we have grown up and appreciate ALL the various old systems for their individual strengths.


I removed one post because, come on people, no need for personal debates. Although I admit I was a bit quick in deleting it instead of editing it, so feel free to re-post - but *please* no finger-pointing.

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #178 on: 00:48, 23 May 15 »
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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #179 on: 01:51, 23 May 15 »
I removed one post because, come on people, no need for personal debates. Although I admit I was a bit quick in deleting it instead of editing it, so feel free to re-post - but *please* no finger-pointing.


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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #180 on: 19:54, 23 May 15 »
Hewson , produced some great titles for the Amstrad, IMO. One of my favourite publishers.

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #181 on: 20:16, 23 May 15 »
All the Hewson games I had were curtesy of AA covertapes! I had Cybernoid and Stormlord on their own..

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #182 on: 01:17, 24 May 15 »
All the Hewson games I had were curtesy of AA covertapes! I had Cybernoid and Stormlord on their own..


I think when they were leading up AA100 and beyond the covertapes were:


AA98 - The Blues Brothers
AA99 - Stormlord
AA100 - Elite
AA101 - Exolon
AA102 - Cybernoid 2
AA103 - Nebulus?
AA104 - Deliverance?
AA105 - Uridium?


Magazine Covers will give it away which I'm about to Check, yes so I had Nebulus correct, but Deliverance came after Uridium with AA105,


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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #183 on: 01:21, 24 May 15 »
Maybe open a new thread about Hewson?

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #184 on: 14:50, 25 May 15 »
But I never got why Sugar got the rap all by himself, whereas Sinclair is so loved. We're talking about a mad scientist who, romantic as it is, invented a couple of lovely things including the ZX series, lots of crap and ultimately drove his company into the ground, unable to keep up with times or run a business.

Sinclair was and come to think of it is almost the definition of an eccentric inventer; he had as many misses as he did hits yes but, generally speaking at least, people don't tend to hold that against folks like him even when things don't work out in part because they love to cheer on an underdog. And in the UK particularly we feckin' love an eccentric, you only have to look at Boris Johnson for example because there's no other reason to explain his popularity! =-)

Sugar didn't have that going for him, he was an already successful businessman when Amstrad moved into home computing and i think that, on the whole, people tend to be less trusting of successful businesspeople; we seem to like our heroes flawed.

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #185 on: 15:55, 25 May 15 »
Boris Johnson has a personality. And is not a sterile nonentity , which is prevalent in modern Britain. Not that I give much of a cotton pickin' F.. about him really. :D

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #186 on: 16:39, 25 May 15 »
Yeah, I think you're right, TMR; plus he cut a rather dashing figure, whereas Sugar was always nothing much to look at :D (let's see who posts the stripper photo this time)

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #187 on: 19:06, 25 May 15 »
Sinclair was and come to think of it is almost the definition of an eccentric inventer; he had as many misses as he did hits yes but, generally speaking at least, people don't tend to hold that against folks like him even when things don't work out in part because they love to cheer on an underdog. And in the UK particularly we feckin' love an eccentric, you only have to look at Boris Johnson for example because there's no other reason to explain his popularity! =-)

Sugar didn't have that going for him, he was an already successful businessman when Amstrad moved into home computing and i think that, on the whole, people tend to be less trusting of successful businesspeople; we seem to like our heroes flawed.

I think people prefering underdogs to already succesful peoples is a reality everywhere. And then you here people saying "We are the only country where people are against success".

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #188 on: 08:14, 26 May 15 »
To be honest, I haven't read Retro Gamer for over 2 years now. I still buy the magazine each month, but each issue gets stacked on top of a pile of, still unread, issues.

I never noticed much CPC bias. There are certain freelancers who mention it & others who don't even acknowledge it, even when their article would benefit from talking about it. That always annoyed me. Maybe it's changed in the past couple of years. I do intend on starting to read through that pile in the near future...

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #189 on: 16:19, 29 June 20 »
Necromancing this because, while reading the popcorn-worthy thread about RetroLaird over at AtariAge I came upon this gem (https://atariage.com/forums/topic/300891-the-review-of-a-z-of-atari-st-games-volume-3-book-retrolaird-is-trying-to-delete/?do=findComment&comment=4453250):

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Darran@Retro Gamer wrote:To quote Star Trek. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
DreamcastRIP is by far the worst offender we have on the forum, followed by Halcyon Daze and The Laird (in terms of the complaints I get about them). When you get people directly leaving because of what an individual is saying to them you have to do something about it. If we had acted a little sooner and been heavier with the banning then maybe it wouldn't come as such a shock to people now, but I have a magazine to make first and foremost and that's my priority. The Nintendo thread was set up because people like DreamcastRIP constantly derailed any thread to do with them. If this was happening with other systems those same things would apply. The fact of the matter is, if you all start acting like children you'll be treated like children and we'll take things away from you. I could have done a blanket ban on Halcyon Daze and The Laird (I'f certainly mentioned the latter's behavior to him) but they were wise enough to keep quiet when the post went done. DreamcastRIP wasn't so he was dealt with. I'm tired of people bullying others with their beliefs and then trying to hide behind the I have a right to state my opinion speech that I constantly get.

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Rrright. See what happens if you say something against Nintendo? :D


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If you don't like Nintendo then stay out of the threads and stop winding people up.
- which is a totally correct thing to say, after all a magazine cover is not a forum thread :D
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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #190 on: 04:02, 30 June 20 »
As from my experience, you can see the dialogue when i tried to inform about my new game amd website, and the link was deleted.

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #191 on: 07:09, 30 June 20 »
As from my experience, you can see the dialogue when i tried to inform about my new game and website, and the link was deleted.

I see you went through the same as me. I've done the same "mistake", only with my music instead of games.
Like you, I figure retro gamedevs must be interested in hearing about new music, so I post on many different chatrooms when I've made a new track.
It's free for gamedevs who makes free games, and I find it very relevant to the gamedev-related chats I post to.
And most places I always get a "Cool" or "Nice!" feedback, but occasionally you will run into people who in my opinion really shouldn't be moderating such chatrooms.

It's true though that I'm not active on those places. I simply don't have the time to be active everywhere. But in my (apparently twisted) view, I am contributing by sharing/offering free music in formats that is usable on those platforms. Guess not.

Nothing to do about it but leave of course, and stick to the friendly places, of which there are many of, fortunately.

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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #192 on: 12:16, 30 June 20 »
I see you went through the same as me. I've done the same "mistake", only with my music instead of games.
Like you, I figure retro gamedevs must be interested in hearing about new music, so I post on many different chatrooms when I've made a new track.
It's free for gamedevs who makes free games, and I find it very relevant to the gamedev-related chats I post to.
And most places I always get a "Cool" or "Nice!" feedback, but occasionally you will run into people who in my opinion really shouldn't be moderating such chatrooms.

It's true though that I'm not active on those places. I simply don't have the time to be active everywhere. But in my (apparently twisted) view, I am contributing by sharing/offering free music in formats that is usable on those platforms. Guess not.

Nothing to do about it but leave of course, and stick to the friendly places, of which there are many of, fortunately.
I totally agree. When you spend time to create something that you will offer free to all, you cant have time to chat and answer in every forum or group you want to share your program.And i believe that taking part in a conversation or a forum cannot be something <obligatory>.


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Re: More bias on Retro Gamer...
« Reply #193 on: 12:21, 30 June 20 »

I totally agree. When you spend time to create something that you will offer free to all, you cant have time to chat and answer in every forum or group you want to share your program.And i believe that taking part in a conversation or a forum cannot be something <obligatory>.

It also seems a very unfair policy towards lurkers!  :o