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Title: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: CPCIak on 18:46, 26 June 10
Anyone noticed Tom & Jerry's new release Color Lines?
According to genesis8 it was sold at the Amstrad Expo Meeting...
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: fano on 19:22, 26 June 10
Cool , finally out  ;D
Wasn't aware there is a physical distro avaible at the Coutances meeting , actually so. (oh yeah ! i am on a physical distro  :-* )
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: CPCIak on 19:30, 26 June 10
Let's hope they'll release some more physical packages
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: MacDeath on 23:59, 26 June 10
Ho ho...
Almost forgot it...

I should get me one of those.
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: Nich on 17:05, 27 June 10
Quote from: CPCIak on 19:30, 26 June 10
Let's hope they'll release some more physical packages
I hope so too! Judging by the pictures on the Genesis8 news page (http://genesis8.free.fr/index.php), it would complement my recently purchased copies of the Psytronik games and Orion Prime nicely. ;D (By the way, I was only responsible for correcting Tom et Jerry's English translation of the instructions for the game, not the text on the back of the inlay!)
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: TomEtJerry on 19:59, 27 June 10
Hi,

Well Nich, I hope the inlay text is not too bad :-). It made laught many sceners at the Coutances Meeting, I don't understand why :-).

A nyway, the game may be available tomorrow in .DSK format.

T&J/GPA
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: Gryzor on 08:07, 28 June 10
I want!!!!! So where could one get it??
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: TomEtJerry on 12:49, 28 June 10
Hi,

You can now download the .DSK release here :

http://tj.gpa.free.fr

Have a nice play :-).

T&j/GPA
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: Gryzor on 13:24, 28 June 10
Yeees, but what about the physical release? Hmmmm?
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: TomEtJerry on 13:56, 28 June 10
Hi,

Well, for the moment, no physical distribution (excepted for the people who have participated to the game).

We will see later if there is a way to sell it in a way that is not too time consumming for us... You should have come to the Coutances meeting, like Voxfreax or Optimus :-)).

T&J/GA
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: Gryzor on 14:00, 28 June 10
Nahhh I was washing my hair that night!

Keep us posted if you do release it, will you?

In the meantime, any pieces left that I could bribe you for?
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: CPCIak on 14:04, 28 June 10
Thanx a lot to Tom&Jerry for making Color Lines public :)
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: TomEtJerry on 15:00, 28 June 10
Sorry Gryzor, no one left at the moment. If it can comfort you, I even don't have a copy for me :-).
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: MacDeath on 15:54, 28 June 10
I'm happy I made a crap skin for it, so I can get it... :P


let's check this, also we'll have to put a poll to vote for the best skin...
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: CPCIak on 16:22, 28 June 10
If you don't want to release further copies, what do you think about making the artwork public? So everyone could print out the cover and stickers for his own needs.
Like Amstrad Today did for Ishido: http://www.amstradtoday.com/elements/bonus/ishido.htm (http://www.amstradtoday.com/elements/bonus/ishido.htm)
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: MacDeath on 17:26, 28 June 10
QuoteLike Amstrad Today did for Ishido
Or even for rick 128+... ;)


Ok, i tested the game..
This is really quite a dick tive...er... addictive.

Liked the rastered kalachnikov intro.


Lots of skins, and lots of very sweet music actually.

Perhaps a jukebox mode option would be great just to listen to musics without actually playing ???


Concerning the skins, it has a lot of variety.
Of course the Mode0 can't enable fine finely detailed stuff, but it is really coloured (of course...)


Some skins may be a bit messy actually (not enough contrast)... and IMO, some skin are not that easy to play.

The pawns , when sharing the same design, need to get the most varied colour scheme, or else this gets tricky...as CPC's palette has a lot of semi-similar colours.
But it must be better on a real CPC screen (will try when I get the disk...)
And it is good to have a good contrast between background and pawns...

Must be a hell on a monochrome monitor though.


I was well surprised that some peoples choose a non-black colour for the Background/border of the screen.

And some fonts are really great (mine was simplistic and rushed...lol).

I was quite impressed by Supersly's skin in that when you select a pawns, it is like it is removed from the board...very sweet idea, almost add some sort of animation and volume/relief...


My own skin being number 8, I was pleased...
8 is the number of chaos (octogon cross)... was it on purpose ?

I was also pleased to ssee my skin was displaying not the worse playability...I tried to get quite different shapes and colours...
But I was a bit disapointed by the messy look of my blue daemonette.



By the way, a nice game in overall, fun, and a lot of great and varied graphics and musics...
Were all those tunes writen especially for the game ?


Skin List :

1)  DIX HELL / CED
2)  PURPLE WAVE / CED
3)  RUST IN PEACE / ELDRIK
4)  GAMMA RAY / ELDRIK
5)  POWERSLAVE / ELDRIK
6)  SANCTUARIUM /   ELDRIK
7)  BRICKS / FANO
8)  CHAOS / MAC DEATH*
9)  AUTUMN   FLAVOUR /NORI
A)  SECRET GARDEN / NORI
B)  LOST GALAXIES / PAPY   CPC
C)  RIGOR MORTIS / REX
D)  ROLLMOPS / SUPERSLY
E)  SPARKLING / VOXFREAX
F)  RAINBOW / WINNER
G)  GHOST INSIDE /   ZENITH

*the smiley w<asn't on purpose, lol... 8 + ) = 8) ...
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: TomEtJerry on 19:14, 28 June 10
Hi,
 
  That's clear that the game can't be played on a monochronous monitor   (shame on you, GT65 user, you could participate to create a skin... ).   Some skins are not easy to play with, even on a real CPC :-). But that's   artists' choices, not mine.
 
  And for the Jukebox, Eldrik had the same idea, but not enough disk   space. And a game is not a musicdisk :-). All music have been done for the game (hard job :-( ), except "Lonely robot" by Ultrasyd. You can find it inside the Arkos Trakker betas.
 
  CPCiak, if we can't find another way to spread the game with a   packaging, I suppose we will make an archive will the documentation, the   inlay and the stickers.  And we cannot pack the crystal box inside :-   ). Be patient and keep courage :-).
 
  T&J/GPA
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: MacDeath on 19:19, 28 June 10
Hi T&J. 8)

Quoteshame on you, GT65 user, you could participate to create a skin...
Supersly did a skin though...(he's quite a specialist in Monochrome monitor on CPC...is he not ?)
But hey, a game named color lines is clearely not designed for a Monochrome !

Well, you can still put the game to play the music, but getting a still picture on those old monitors is not a clever idea, unless you put a "screen saver"...
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: TFM on 21:40, 28 June 10
@Tom & Jerry! I like your cracks, but I love your game! Great work!! Well done!!! And every day of the 10 years worth to wait for.
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: arnoldemu on 09:31, 29 June 10
Nice game, thankyou for releasing it  :)

Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: MacDeath on 14:07, 29 June 10
So many musics, I wasn't used to that on a CPC... ;)

Yet again, the only 3 channels can't enable getting sounds AND musics...I really should try to concieve an additionnal AY soundcard...when I'll see if the FPGA-based ACID erzatz work...
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: arnoldemu on 14:09, 29 June 10
Quote from: MacDeath on 19:19, 28 June 10
Well, you can still put the game to play the music, but getting a still picture on those old monitors is not a clever idea, unless you put a "screen saver"...
I don't think I've ever seen a screen saver on cpc.

Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: Gryzor on 08:42, 30 June 10
A starfield maybe? Or the 3D text showing CPC-related words and names? Or maybe lots of colored Amstrad logos flying towards you?

I don't think it'd be so hard :) Well, apart from the 3D text.
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: arnoldemu on 09:18, 30 June 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 08:42, 30 June 10
A starfield maybe? Or the 3D text showing CPC-related words and names? Or maybe lots of colored Amstrad logos flying towards you?

I don't think it'd be so hard :) Well, apart from the 3D text.
yes a screensaver is not hard to write, but I don't remember seeing one in a game or utility.
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: Devilmarkus on 09:23, 30 June 10
SymbOS has a screensaver.
Starfield?!?
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: trocoloco on 10:37, 30 June 10
This 10 years haven't gone to waste, great game and awesome music,   thanks for sharing it
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: MacDeath on 01:09, 01 July 10
Would it be possible to get the playlist of the tunes ?

Names, number of track and composer...


Also can it be released as a music pack for AY emulators and Starkos...

So I can put those in my AY emulator playlist per exemple...
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: TFM on 05:39, 01 July 10
Quote from: arnoldemu on 14:09, 29 June 10
I don't think I've ever seen a screen saver on cpc.

The very first screen saver was made for FutureOS loooong time ago. Now you also get screen savers for SOS.
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: TomEtJerry on 06:41, 01 July 10
Quote from: MacDeath on 01:09, 01 July 10
Would it be possible to get the playlist of the tunes ?

Names, number of track and composer...

Hello,

Well, I have composed all music, except tunes f9 page 1 (Color) and f8 page 2 (Lonely Robot), done
by Ultrasyd (you can find this information in the game documentation. Oh sorry, you don't have yet your
boxed copy :-) ).
My music have no real name, only things like CHAOS4, MARIKO, and so and so. That's not really useful
to put that kind of thing into the game.
I suppose it is possible to spread the .SKS files soon, but I don't want to make a musicdisk with them.

T&J/GPA
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: MacDeath on 15:06, 01 July 10
OK so I assume the names are the same as the name of the skin perhaps ?

Lots of "arpèges en quinte"...sounds quite metal perhaps... but on the overall, this is a complete AY-chiptune album actually...

Also the pre-set song for my skin is really catchy and the main theme/riff is struck into my ears.... ouch...


As many others...
some tunes sounds a bit like 80's synthetizer like Visage's "Fade to grey" IMO...


Also, i tried the game on emulator in Monochrome mode...lol...

1) unplayable
2) almost playable but not really
3) almost playable actually... need perhaps further tests.
4) almost playable but not really
5) almost playable but not really
6) almost playable but not really
7) almost playable but not really
8) playable thx to different shapes.
9) almost playable but not really
a) almost playable but not really
b) almost playable but not really
c) unplayable
d) almost playable but not really, yet the mermaid looks great.  :o
e) unplayable
f) almost playable but not really
g)unplayable

By "almost playable" I mean that  only perhaps a pair of tiles that are too similar, yet the tiles are well differencied with the bachground/empty tiles...or whatever..

yet it is still quite unplayable.

On the other hand, the HUD sometimes looks great in monochrome too.

being almost the only who designed different shapes...I saved the day ;) ...lol...
But hey, who plays on Monochrome nowadays ?


This is perhaps my pride, my skin (and the font) is not the better looking and many stuff are a bit amateur perhaps...
Also as i saw, I obviously ripped the blank tile from Fano's....ouch....

Yet it also contains a few originalities.
Game Over message per exemple, or the different shapes...renames of the stuff in the HUD...
And it is the only Monochrome friendly one... ;D


BTW, the concept of such production with a lot of peoples involved is truely awesome, should do more like this...

Here a typical exemple as attached picture.
But this skin is quite fun, liked it, in colour version.
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: arnoldemu on 16:24, 01 July 10
For green screen it may be better to use patterns for the tiles, or unique tiles for each colour  instead of using colours themselves.

Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: MacDeath on 16:28, 01 July 10
Then making a special "Shape Lines" version... :P
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: TomEtJerry on 18:44, 01 July 10
Well well, in the name of the game, there is the word "color", so :-).

If someone would have take the time to design a monochronous skin (the toolkit has been spreaded about one year ago... ), we would add it with pleasure into the game, but now, it's a little bit late. Macdeath's skin is the only one that can be played on this kind of monitor, that is clear.

T&J/GPA
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: MacDeath on 19:59, 01 July 10
Not a big deal actually... that won't be necessary... :)

The game plays very well on emulator for Monochome-only possessors.

I was just curious to look at the result of the graphics in Greenscreen, that's all.
And appart from having some tiles hard to differenciate, many skins look good actually.



On another matter, Do you have a new project at the moment ?
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: TomEtJerry on 07:25, 07 September 10
Hello,

Just a little message to inform you that Color Lines music are now avalaible as .SKS and .YM files.

Just go to http://tj.gpa.free.fr

T&J/GPA
Title: Re: New release "Color Lines" by Tom & Jerry
Post by: Gryzor on 09:14, 11 September 10
Thanks man!

Darn, let's look for that YM Winamp plugin again... :D
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