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Title: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 11:29, 15 July 10
Darn I'm starting to get a bit stumped now with it!  :(

Can anyone set up a helpline number?  ;D :D
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: remax on 13:24, 15 July 10
Ask and ye shall receive
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 10:26, 16 July 10
Quote from: remax on 13:24, 15 July 10
Ask and ye shall receive

Oh really? Sweet!  ;D

Well ok ... I'll ask for some hints below (no need for a solution) of where I'm stuck, I'll put it in white text to hide so it wont reveal spoilers!

Begin --1

) The appointment computer on the first level outside the lift ... it's been hacked and needs just a 'login ID' ... I've tried every crew ID I've recorded down from the PDA but no joy ... I feel like I should have solved this one by now :(

2) The monster in the garden. I have the cell charged from throwing it in the swimming pool, I've even sneaked and got flash grenades from level 6 before the radiation gets me ... I shoot the lamp above his head which lands on him, throw the cell then shoot it ... what next? I've tried every different combination and every item I have left that could do anything (gun, crowbar, flash grenade etc even the metal cable but no idea what that's for yet!) I presume I need to get to the box at the end of the room, open and get/use contents maybe I don't need to kill him but he still gets me every time! Help!

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Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 11:25, 16 July 10
Hints for Xyphoe :)

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1) Perhaps you miss some log overthere......
2) Are you sure you have enough ammnunition?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 11:47, 16 July 10
Gryzor : The cpu asks for a Login, not an ID ! Not a number...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Bryce on 11:54, 16 July 10
:D Putting it in white text isn't really a good idea, I use the ModernDark64 skin on the Forum (which has a dark brown background) so the white text is highlighted :D

But I haven't started Orion Prime yet and by the time I do, I'll have forgotten the tips anyway (if I even get that far).

Maybe you should just PM the questions and tips, so as not to spoil it for others?

Bryce.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: arnoldemu on 12:21, 16 July 10
Quote from: Bryce on 11:54, 16 July 10
:D Putting it in white text isn't really a good idea, I use the ModernDark64 skin on the Forum (which has a dark brown background) so the white text is highlighted :D
good point.

Do we have a "spoilers" tag? worldofspectrum has it and it does a great job of hiding info like this and I am sure it would work with different skins.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 17:58, 16 July 10
Why are you replying to "Gryzor"? I didn't ask anything :D

I think there is some spoiler functionality, will look into it (right now I'm on my balcony enjoying some juice with my netbook, not much room for tinkering with code) :)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 18:26, 16 July 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 17:58, 16 July 10
Why are you replying to "Gryzor"? I didn't ask anything :D

It's true !! Sorry Xyphoe, I confused this Greek lady with you...   :laugh:
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 18:56, 16 July 10
Guess what!: ShowHide
Oh yes, you guessed it!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 19:20, 16 July 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 18:56, 16 July 10
Guess what!: ShowHide
Oh yes, you guessed it!


Awesome! Top work mate!


And sorry Bryce!!!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: TFM on 19:29, 16 July 10
 
Let me try this...


your new car? Do like to start the: ShowHide
You have been framed! You never get a spoiler for your old car!

Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 20:14, 16 July 10
Well lets see if this works in reply to your hints -

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Quote from: MiguelSky on 11:25, 16 July 10
Hints for Xyphoe :)

1) Perhaps you miss some log overthere......2) Are you sure you have enough ammnunition?


+The cpu asks for a   Login, not an ID ! Not a number...


OK so the login is someones name? If so when you have a name listed like RUSSEL J,D. what do you do about punctuation? I'm sure I've got all the logs I can get to, examined every room and corpse over and over ... perhaps a hint about which floor and room this log is in ...

Monster ... I only have the pistol but it has the full clip, I take it I need a heavier gun?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 23:46, 16 July 10
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Quote from: Xyphoe on 20:14, 16 July 10

OK so the login is someones name? If so when you have a name listed like RUSSEL J,D. what do you do about punctuation? I'm sure I've got all the logs I can get to, examined every room and corpse over and over ... perhaps a hint about which floor and room this log is in ...

Monster ... I only have the pistol but it has the full clip, I take it I need a heavier gun?

For the login use only the surname, not initials.
For the monster, use all the weapons that let you continue (no crowbar...). The gun is the one to be used to finish him.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 10:33, 19 July 10
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Quote from: MiguelSky on 23:46, 16 July 10
[spoiler]
For the login use only the surname, not initials.
For the monster, use all the weapons that let you continue (no crowbar...). The gun is the one to be used to finish him.

[/quote]

Ack! How annoying and simple. It seems that the computer may not be needed for anything in the game apart from some useful info which you'll piece together anyway. But we'll see, you never know!

As for the monster .... GRRR ... I thought I tried that. When you tried so many combinations over and over it appears I may have missed one. I'm sure I tried the gun on him at least once after the lamp then battery, but it appears you have to do grenade / lamp / batter / gun - job done.

Anyway I'm progressing now but getting frustrated with the robot ID.

I have 2 relevant PDA emails, one moaning about the ids being wrong - new standardisation and last 4 digits for the company. The next one saying it was the company messing up and quoting 3 digits for Kamiyoshi - "815". I've tried all the robot ID's listed replacing with 815 at the end, then as its supposed to be 4 digits replacing the 4th from last for every one from 0 to 9 eg 33DD0815, 33DD1815, 33DD2815, etc just in case but no joy. Arm aches for trying them all again and frustration creeping in again! Am I missing an important PDA email/log? Am I missing something obvious? :( Cheers![/spoiler]

Reply for MiguelSky! (or anyone else that can help!)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: arnoldemu on 10:46, 19 July 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 17:58, 16 July 10
Why are you replying to "Gryzor"? I didn't ask anything :D

I think there is some spoiler functionality, will look into it (right now I'm on my balcony enjoying some juice with my netbook, not much room for tinkering with code) :)
Are you referring to my post?

Well hitting reply and clearing the content of the post is just easy for lazy me  :laugh:
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: remax on 17:46, 19 July 10
[spoiler]
for the robot ID, if you look well, you'll find some oddity... Something around the two letters...[/s]
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 12:57, 21 July 10
Quote from: remax on 17:46, 19 July 10
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for the robot ID, if you look well, you'll find some oddity... Something around the two letters...
[/s][/quote]

Oh fer gawds sake........ yes that was blimin' obvious wasn't it?

*sigh*  ::)

Maybe I'm not as good as I thought I was, progressing rather neatly up to this point now coming stuck. Perhaps I'm not that cut out for adventure games, hey ho. I seem to be the only one asking for hints, rather embarrassingly! Anyone else progressing well with this game? Anyone completed it yet?

Anyway, maybe some more subtle hints I could do with ...

[spoiler]The hole in the reactor the robot can't pass ... I thought maybe the metal cable i have could be tied to the 'lamp' that's hanging to swing across Indiana Jones style! But can't give anything to the robot
The debris blocking the officers quaters ... plus anything I am missing in the games room which seems to be next to the officers quarters? Apart from the telephone needing a phone number and the arcade machine which you can play on! (any point to the latter or just for fun? Got the high score on all 3 levels just in case)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: remax on 00:22, 22 July 10
As i am french, i have had much more time to complete the game. It took me quite a lot of time too and got stucked a few time. So nothing unusual here. It's quite a hard game.

For your questions :

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The hole in the reactor the robot can't pass ... I thought maybe the   metal cable i have could be tied to the 'lamp' that's hanging to swing   across Indiana Jones style! But can't give anything to the robot

> keep that in mind for later... but as you say, you can't give nothing to the robot so...

The   debris blocking the officers quaters ... plus anything I am missing in   the games room which seems to be next to the officers quarters? Apart   from the telephone needing a phone number and the arcade machine which   you can play on! (any point to the latter or just for fun? Got the high   score on all 3 levels just in case)

> for the phone number, you have a part of it and you must find the end, using the informations you can find on some computer and the logs you founnd (you must determine the number of passenger at the time the message was sent and you can find how many passengers there was at the boarding and how this number has changed...). Remember that if you need 5 digits and have only 3 :
123 can be written 00123.
> for the office quarter... well, why don't you have a trip when lights are off on this level...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Deeko on 17:42, 23 July 10
What a great game this is  :) Apart from the sheer size and technicalities involved, the story, graphics and eery music have drawn me in today, been messing around for about 5hrs now and the thing that does it for me is the wonderfully dark humour in a lot of the descriptions.

Anyways, I need a bit of advice from people who have already been where I am and can give me a hint or two, I'm not a seasoned adventure gamer by any means. My scenario is in the spoiler for those that are interested.

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In the security room on level 5, the room to the right as you come out the lift.

I've been able to record each movie idividualy and watch each on the screen on level 4, but what is option 1? I assume the text on the " - Security Service - " screen is meant to be distorted to add authenticity, I know option 2 is record video & 3 is quit. But what does option 1 do?

I've pressed it but it gives another distorted message.


On a small side note, has anyone had any disc swapping issues on the 3" disc versions in emulators. This is discounting WinAPE, I'm using the 3.5" on that. Reason I ask is I tried it on AmesDS out of curiosity and it looked realy good in the first room, with screen mode set to auto. It just looks good I think on the small screen, and the layout and writing is very clear. But when I try to leave the room it asks for side 3 which is already in. Then it just can't recognise the disc  :( I also found this with CPCE 1.92.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 19:54, 23 July 10
Thanks a lot for your comments.
As for the technical issue, some emulators don't like the way I handle FDC, so simply can't load any file once the music starts. I think the latest CPE version can handle this, as well of course as Winape (with "Fast Disc Emulation" option unchecked).
As for the hint :
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The first option is something like "Visualize screen", and it doesn't work. Move along :).
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 14:10, 24 July 10
I do get a few times prompts to enter the same disk that is already in the drive on a real Amstrad, although this is a 6128+ (3" version) ... so maybe the fast load is not as optimised or designed for Plus machines that a normal CPC.

It's not a big gripe at all, however the one that does get annoying is on side 1 first loading the game ... I seem to always get 'bad data' error message before loading the intro, I have to switch off, push the disc in and out a few times and it will load eventually. I've not had any other problem with other games I own with the disc drive, last year I cleaned the drive and put new belts on etc. Not sure why this is, could be just a bad floppy.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 14:57, 24 July 10
Having a "please insert side x" or "bad data" error is clearly a sign of a not-so-good floppy. Remember that 3" discs are always very old...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Deeko on 21:24, 25 July 10
Quote from: Targhan on 19:54, 23 July 10
Thanks a lot for your comments.
As for the technical issue, some emulators don't like the way I handle FDC, so simply can't load any file once the music starts. I think the latest CPE version can handle this, as well of course as Winape (with "Fast Disc Emulation" option unchecked).
As for the hint :
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The first option is something like "Visualize screen", and it doesn't work. Move along :) .


Thanks's alot for your reply Targhan.

I'm now confused by one part and for all my trying I'm not seeing the solution. 99% chance it's right in front of me and I don't see it. Situation in the spoiler below and any hints more than welcome  :)

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It concerns the robot under repair in the maintenance room in level 2.

I've worked out the correct ID and uploaded the firmware and run the Status report and this confirms the firmware "functions correctly with the robot under repair". All well and good, but the next part of the report says

"Mechanical test: Failed

The robot cannot make use of it's motor facilities in it's current condition.  Cause: Demodulator not integrated (item code 147812)"

I go to the StoreRoom Manager v11.5 computer and it says "ERROR: Database corrupted. Unable to retrieve list of available items" I put the 147812 but isn't recognised anyway.

I also have the remote control in my inventory but it says it doesn't recognise any robots it can control.

I might be wrong completely but remember the 147812 was logged as Fraud or something?? But I don't have a log to back that up so I might be dreaming.


As always subtle hints appreciated, but no major spoilers please  ;)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Grim on 22:02, 25 July 10
QuoteAs always subtle hints appreciated, but no major spoilers please  ;)
As subtle as I can:
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QuoteThe robot cannot make use of it's motor facilities in it's current condition.  Cause: Demodulator not integrated (item code 147812)

IIRC, a tech guy was working on that robot before the weird things happened in the station. He must still be "hanging" around with the damn demodulator, just need a good eye to find him... :)

Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 22:16, 25 July 10
@Grim : I bow down before your subtlety :).
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Deeko on 23:11, 25 July 10
Yes, subtlety lol If I understand Grim correctly then this is going to get a bit more gory  :o

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Freyer is the techie that never returned the Demodulator, according to a log he locked himself down in the secondry pump room. This is the door that requires a retinal scan to open. There's a corpse missing half it's face so I need to find the missing eyeball to open the door and find Freyer, no guessing in what condition thanks to Grims hint.

I've double checked each corridor down in the lowest level then double checked every other corpse on levels 0,1,2,4 &5 and nobodies got an extra eyeball on or around them. Guess I'll have to keep an eye out lol
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: TFM on 23:32, 25 July 10
Quote from: Deeko on 23:11, 25 July 10
Yes, subtlety lol If I understand Grim correctly then this is going to get a bit more gory  :o

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Freyer is the techie that never returned the Demodulator, according to a log he locked himself down in the secondry pump room. This is the door that requires a retinal scan to open. There's a corpse missing half it's face so I need to find the missing eyeball to open the door and find Freyer, no guessing in what condition thanks to Grims hint.

I've double checked each corridor down in the lowest level then double checked every other corpse on levels 0,1,2,4 &5 and nobodies got an extra eyeball on or around them. Guess I'll have to keep an eye out lol



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You need a tool to get an eyeball. The right corpse is in a room on level 2.

Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Ythcal on 22:35, 26 July 10

Wow, now I'm totally stucked...

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Got the commanders voice and some codes out of the computer from the maze, but no console or similar to use it!? And what with the closed door near the (fired) missiles!?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 02:30, 27 July 10
Quote from: Ythcal on 22:35, 26 July 10
Wow, now I'm totally stucked...

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Got the commanders voice and some codes out of the computer from the maze, but no console or similar to use it!? And what with the closed door near the (fired) missiles!?


Hi mate, for once I'll contribute some hints! LOL ....

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Commanders voice ... well that's used in the same place for where you remotely recorded it ....

The closed door in the missile room ... well you got the codes, you may want to try them on one of the very first computers you would have used...

Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 12:56, 28 July 10
Quote from: remax on 00:22, 22 July 10
As i am french, i have had much more time to complete the game. It took me quite a lot of time too and got stucked a few time. So nothing unusual here. It's quite a hard game.

For your questions :

Spoiler: ShowHide
The hole in the reactor the robot can't pass ... I thought maybe the   metal cable i have could be tied to the 'lamp' that's hanging to swing   across Indiana Jones style! But can't give anything to the robot

> keep that in mind for later... but as you say, you can't give nothing to the robot so...

The   debris blocking the officers quaters ... plus anything I am missing in   the games room which seems to be next to the officers quarters? Apart   from the telephone needing a phone number and the arcade machine which   you can play on! (any point to the latter or just for fun? Got the high   score on all 3 levels just in case)

> for the phone number, you have a part of it and you must find the end, using the informations you can find on some computer and the logs you founnd (you must determine the number of passenger at the time the message was sent and you can find how many passengers there was at the boarding and how this number has changed...). Remember that if you need 5 digits and have only 3 :
123 can be written 00123.
> for the office quarter... well, why don't you have a trip when lights are off on this level...


Hi Remax, thanks for your help here however I'm still stuck...

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Phone number - I don't think I have the first part of it yet, or seem to have anything related to the end of it ... perhaps I haven't gotten far enough for this yet? I've gone through the PDA entries I have but can find nothing obvious relating to this.

This is where I am at -

Have woken up Helena, who's run off and says she will contact me - I presume this must be via the telephone
Which I guess at some point will give me access to level 3 labs...?
Robot cannot cross the hole in the reactor
Have opened JD Russel's computer in the bedroom ... but says without knowing what to search for is useless


Where do I go from here?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 19:06, 29 July 10
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>Phone number - I don't think I have the first part of it yet
The main part is found on the first floor. The other parts... you probably have them already.


>Have opened JD Russel's computer in the bedroom ... but says without knowing what to search for is useless
You'll know what to find a bit later when you've answered the riddle above.


Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 10:44, 30 July 10
Quote from: Targhan on 19:06, 29 July 10
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>Phone number - I don't think I have the first part of it yet
The main part is found on the first floor. The other parts... you probably have them already.


>Have opened JD Russel's computer in the bedroom ... but says without knowing what to search for is useless
You'll know what to find a bit later when you've answered the riddle above.


Sorry Targhan, I'm still stuck...  :( :-[

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I've gone through everything again on the first floor but can't find anything - I think the only thing of relevance from what's been mentioned above is the computer by the lift on the 1st floor which is supposed to store crew appointments and other info, but all it gives me of any use is a screen with permanent crew number  (281 - so I guess this is relevant), departure date, state of the vessel which floors are sealed and the names of the levels. Other than that I've gone through all the PDA's I've picked up and can't find any numbers that could be relevant, only a log that talks of the arrival of Tsutomu but has nothing else.

To be honest I have no clue who I'm meant to be calling ... Tsutomu, Helena ... but know nothing of the part I should already have?

From whats been talked about I would hazard a guess that the 8 digit phone number would be something like <laboratory_phone_extension>-0-0-<crew number> eg 32800282 ?

I think I may just need to admit defeat here and ask for where I can get the solution directly, unless I've missed picking something up somewhere as there appears to be little clue or suggestion of a phone number from anything I've found :(

Sorry!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 14:15, 30 July 10
I guess there is no cheat to bypass the primary pump minigame, right?


I really love the adventure but I do really hate the primary pump minigame. Hacking and repairing minigames are pretty ok (long time System Shock player here, hehe).
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 18:07, 30 July 10
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>To be honest I have no clue who I'm meant to be calling ... Tsutomu,   Helena ... but know nothing of the part I should already have?

Huh ? You're supposed to called the Hacker back with the number asked in the riddle. The way you manage the digits is good. And you are right, the computer on the first floor gives you how many people there WERE. Now check out all your mails, and count how many people get on the ship, and how many *left*.

>I guess there is no cheat to bypass the primary pump minigame, right?

Nop, no way.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 18:34, 30 July 10
Quote from: Targhan on 18:07, 30 July 10
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>To be honest I have no clue who I'm meant to be calling ... Tsutomu,   Helena ... but know nothing of the part I should already have?

Huh ? You're supposed to called the Hacker back with the number asked in the riddle. The way you manage the digits is good. And you are right, the computer on the first floor gives you how many people there WERE. Now check out all your mails, and count how many people get on the ship, and how many *left*.

>I guess there is no cheat to bypass the primary pump minigame, right?

Nop, no way.


AAAHHHH!!

Well there you go.... it appears I've missed something vital then....

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I do not have this riddle!!!! Where can I find this riddle from the hacker?!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 09:49, 31 July 10
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>I do not have this riddle!!!! Where can I find this riddle from the hacker?!
Huh. Why the hell did you want to phone anyone, then ? You have to trigger a quest. Read carefully the mails about the Masked Hacker, one of them tells you  (in an indirect way) how to contact him...


Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 10:25, 03 August 10
Quote from: Targhan on 09:49, 31 July 10
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>I do not have this riddle!!!! Where can I find this riddle from the hacker?!
Huh. Why the hell did you want to phone anyone, then ? You have to trigger a quest. Read carefully the mails about the Masked Hacker, one of them tells you  (in an indirect way) how to contact him...


:(

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Well I figured that it would be Helena I need to call on the phone seeing as shes a communications expert and would contact me, and I had just rescued her.

OK well I may be on the wrong tracks before anyway with the hacker but on a log I got it talks about a dude playing the fruit machines and the hacker contacting him after a while, ages back I used the Hacker Boy on the fruit machines both of them and sat there using them over and over but nothing happened.
I've just tried for the last 20 mins just 'using' the fruit machines over and over again ... but still nothing.
Tried using the hacker boy and every other object in my inventory on them both too.
Is this where the hacker contacts you? If so what am I doing wrong? :( Man I suck.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 11:45, 03 August 10
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Don't worry, you're on the right track ! Except that you have to hack the Jackpot TWICE in order to win easily several times in a row.


Don't focus too much on Helena, she's just a "bonus". You were lucky to find her on the first time you played the game.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 13:12, 03 August 10
Quote from: Targhan on 11:45, 03 August 10
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Don't worry, you're on the right track ! Except that you have to hack the Jackpot TWICE in order to win easily several times in a row.


Don't focus too much on Helena, she's just a "bonus". You were lucky to find her on the first time you played the game.


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Thanks Targhan, except I've already hacked it twice (even though theres 2 fruit machines shown ... the game only counts it as one right?) and I sit there 'using' the machine ... I get some wins in a row, but nothing happens. I must have won about 5 or 6 times in a row sometimes. The occasional 'you lost' too. I must have sat there again for another 10 mins just click 'use' every few seconds ... along with earlier and when I first encountered them after reading that log!..... im getting really annoyed now!! LOL
If I try and use the hacker boy again it just gives a message that there's no use doing that anymore. I hope this isn't a bug in my version.
:'(
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 17:15, 03 August 10
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You probably already received the log you were supposed to receive (but didn't see the text as you were too quick to press space) ! Open the PDA and read the personal logs. You might find a surprise !
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 02:57, 05 August 10
Quote from: Targhan on 17:15, 03 August 10
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You probably already received the log you were supposed to receive (but didn't see the text as you were too quick to press space) ! Open the PDA and read the personal logs. You might find a surprise !


!!!!

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Oh f****** hell ... it was in the personal folder.
I'd never used or checked that since the very first 'welcome to your PDA' message ... grrrr sorry about all that.

Well I've now progressed rapidly, solved all the hackers quest, repaired my vessel after redirecting all the energy (and also managed to kill 5 billion people goofing about  :P ) and now just need to shut down the reactor flow.

So what's left is I have the 3 digits of the 9 digit code needed from the corpse in the reactor, the very strange story from the safe in the commanders bedroom (wtf is this?) but now wondering where else to go on this presumably last quest.

Level 3 labs are still sealed (do you ever get to go there?), 5 of the 6 lockers (with tight security) are still locked, he doesn't know what the case is for on level1 near to the sub-level entrance, I have that strange story in the logs, refuses to dive in the swimming pool with electricity off not knowing what lurks beneath, refuses to use the other computer on level6 outside the flow chambers... hmm that's about it really.

Subtle hints?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 06:45, 05 August 10
So, when's a walkthrough going to be posted? :D Though a UHS (http://www.uhs-hints.com/) file would be perfect I guess...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 07:15, 05 August 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 06:45, 05 August 10
So, when's a walkthrough going to be posted? :D Though a UHS (http://www.uhs-hints.com/) file would be perfect I guess...

I'll be doing a Long Play video as soon I've completed it :)
God knows how many YouTube vids and parts it will take! lol
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 07:16, 05 August 10
Quote from: Xyphoe on 07:15, 05 August 10
I'll be doing a Long Play video as soon I've completed it :)
God knows how many YouTube vids and parts it will take! lol

Yeah, but, although a longplay will be really cool, it's not nearly as useful as a walkthrough or a hint system...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 07:32, 05 August 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 07:16, 05 August 10
Yeah, but, although a longplay will be really cool, it's not nearly as useful as a walkthrough or a hint system...

I suppose I could write one, I went all nerdy and made maps, diagrams and notes whilst playing ... suppose I could translate this into something.

Perhaps a map based one could be quite nice ... then it doesn't have to have a complete solution or walkthrough but like ... locations of stuff and hints to go with them
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 07:48, 05 August 10
Oooh! I smell a special page on the wiki... or on Orion's site for that matter!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 09:25, 05 August 10
Please do not release a walkthrough now ! I have one ready, we will publish it someday soon.

I didn't know the UHS thingy, I guess I could set up something here.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 10:21, 05 August 10
Quote from: Targhan on 09:25, 05 August 10
Please do not release a walkthrough now ! I have one ready, we will publish it someday soon.

I didn't know the UHS thingy, I guess I could set up something here.

Hi Targhan (and anyone else) just in case you missed it on the previous page - posted another spoiler/hint thing :)


I won't do any walkthrough or publish it especially if you've got one and until I get a green light - even for a map, if I post a YouTube video it wont be I think for many weeks at least anyway with very clear warning spoilers are involved (well its a longplay - duh!)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 17:54, 05 August 10
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>the very strange story from the safe in the commanders bedroom
Read the paragraph between quotes ALOUD and you might get what you need...




Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 17:57, 05 August 10
Targhan is right to request that a walkthrough be not published yet...

...though I'm stuck early in the game (can't go up or down the ladders, can't use the computer in the Recharger room, can't insert anything behind the plant etc). Is it a case of finding more stuff with pixel-level precision or am I missing something?

However, I just player it for about 40 minutes and I thoroughly enjoyed it...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 19:13, 05 August 10
Quote from: Targhan on 17:54, 05 August 10
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>the very strange story from the safe in the commanders bedroom
Read the paragraph between quotes ALOUD and you might get what you need...


Ah yes...

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I get it now, thats the 2nd set of 3 numbers I've got now, along with the first from corpse on the reactor gangway. I'm still kinda stuck on where to go next though as I was before or where I should be looking for the last 3 numbers :)
Cheers mate really appreciated!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 19:42, 05 August 10
Hey Gryzor, did you...


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Get the energy cell from a panel in the very first screen? It took me a while to and I also had to ask because it's very dark and you cannot see it easily.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 20:05, 05 August 10
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>I get it now, thats the 2nd set of 3 numbers I've got now, along with the first from corpse on the reactor gangway. I'm still kinda stuck on where to go next though as I was before or where I should be looking for the last 3 numbers



No, all the remaining numbers (6 of them) are here, you should be able to get to the reactor.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 07:16, 06 August 10
Quote from: Targhan on 20:05, 05 August 10
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>I get it now, thats the 2nd set of 3 numbers I've got now, along with the first from corpse on the reactor gangway. I'm still kinda stuck on where to go next though as I was before or where I should be looking for the last 3 numbers

No, all the remaining numbers (6 of them) are here, you should be able to get to the reactor.


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Oh, are you saying the the commanders story has the last 6 numbers within it not just the three I thought I found?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 07:59, 06 August 10
Quote from: robcfg on 19:42, 05 August 10
Hey Gryzor, did you...


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Get the energy cell from a panel in the very first screen? It took me a while to and I also had to ask because it's very dark and you cannot see it easily.


Ah crap! :(
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 08:14, 06 August 10
By the way, Spoiler code updated. Working better than the old code, and also the button on the WYSIWYG editor always appears (the Sp button next to the Quote button)


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Ooh cool!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 23:22, 06 August 10
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>Oh, are you saying the the commanders story has the last 6 numbers within it not just the three I thought I found?

Yes. Read the text between quotes *very* carefully.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 10:35, 10 August 10
Wahooo!!!

Have completed it  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 11:03, 10 August 10
Congratulations !! :)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 17:13, 10 August 10
Yay mate!!! Is the ending any good? :)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nich on 21:37, 12 August 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 17:13, 10 August 10
Yay mate!!! Is the ending any good? :)
It depends on how he completed the game. There are three possible endings. ;)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 09:55, 13 August 10
Ooh... is it obvious when the fork takes place so you can save beforehand?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nich on 20:21, 13 August 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:55, 13 August 10
Ooh... is it obvious when the fork takes place so you can save beforehand?
No, but I will tell you in the spoiler below:

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Save the game just after you receive a mail on your PDA from the MainServ computer.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 07:36, 14 August 10
Great, thanks for that ;)
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Post by: andycadley on 13:12, 14 August 10
Well...
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I've made it up to level 2 and wandered about a bit, but there doesn't seem to be anywhere useful to go. There is a sealed door which I tried to open with the crowbar but no luck. The lifts won't take me any further and there is a broken robot, but i don't have any of the bits to fix it (not that I'd know what to do with it if I did!) I've even tried pixel hunting all over the screens to see if there is something I've missed, but no joy.

Haylp!


I think I officially suck at adventure games.  :(
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 15:09, 14 August 10
Quote from: andycadley on 13:12, 14 August 10
Well...
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I've made it up to level 2 and wandered about a bit, but there doesn't seem to be anywhere useful to go. There is a sealed door which I tried to open with the crowbar but no luck. The lifts won't take me any further and there is a broken robot, but i don't have any of the bits to fix it (not that I'd know what to do with it if I did!) I've even tried pixel hunting all over the screens to see if there is something I've missed, but no joy.

Haylp!


I think I officially suck at adventure games.  :(

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Try a little more with that sealed door...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: andycadley on 16:41, 14 August 10
Quote from: MiguelSky on 15:09, 14 August 10

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Try a little more with that sealed door...

Ah, that's got me going again. Cheers!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 10:39, 15 August 10
Quote from: MiguelSky on 15:09, 14 August 10

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Try a little more with that sealed door...


Well, i had already tried that by myself, but it doesn't seem to lead anywhere...? :(
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: andycadley on 10:42, 15 August 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 10:39, 15 August 10
Well, i had already tried that by myself, but it doesn't seem to lead anywhere...? :(
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Go pixel hunting just to the lower right of the door and you should find the solution.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 17:09, 15 August 10
Ah damn. Pixel hunting. Gotta remember that!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 07:29, 13 September 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 17:13, 10 August 10
Yay mate!!! Is the ending any good? :)

Ahh, sorry I'm late replying to this! Yes the ending is good, the whole game has been amazing from start to finish! I think most certain in the top 10 best games ever for the Amstrad EASILY ... in my opinion anyway! I do have some 'wishes' for the game, but really given the quality of product it would only be considered irrelevant and pointless nitpicking - I'm really looking forward to a sequel but everyone involved must be exhausted from the whole project!!

re the ending - I'll put in Spoiler tags just in case although there isn't much actual spoiler material I'll write... but also some questions for Targhan in another spoiler tag -

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The ending is probably the best ending to an Amstrad game ever!!!! However unless I've not fully completed the game as there's apparently 3 endings (I'll come onto this shortly) I would say that compared to the amazing and long intro it's a little short (ignoring the long text and credits scroller) and a bit disappointing - BUT that's only in comparison to the amazing opening. So don't take that the wrong way!!


Question for Targhan / game developers regarding different endings, possible missed sections....
(DOES CONTAIN SPOILERS)

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So I've seen 2 endings ... one escaping before setting the reactor to blow up (and killing billions teehee!) and a short ending after doing that ie - 2 screens, one of the ship leaving Orion Prime and then the one of it sort of exploding with the music. I've been playing the 3" disc version. I've read somewhere that the ending is longer on the 3.5" version is that correct? Am I really missing much?

Regarding the 3rd ending which I haven't seen, can you give some pointers on how to trigger this?

I'm wondering if it's linked to saving Helena? Obviously I woke her up earlier with the smoke grenade and off she went presumably into the 3 level labs....
Perhaps she escapes with you, and you have sex with her in zero gravity like in Moonraker or something! haha!!
Do you ever get to go to the labs?? Lift door is still locked ... a whole new possible section I'm missing out on or not??
Anything else?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nich on 12:52, 19 September 10
Quote from: Xyphoe on 07:29, 13 September 10
Question for Targhan / game developers regarding different endings, possible missed sections....
(DOES CONTAIN SPOILERS)
I can answer some, but not all, of your questions...

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So I've seen 2 endings ... one escaping before setting the reactor to blow up (and killing billions teehee!) and a short ending after doing that ie - 2 screens, one of the ship leaving Orion Prime and then the one of it sort of exploding with the music. I've been playing the 3" disc version. I've read somewhere that the ending is longer on the 3.5" version is that correct? Am I really missing much?

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On the 3.5" disc version, the third ending contains an additional full-screen image with a digitised tune to accompany it. There wasn't enough room to include it on the 3" disc version.


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Regarding the 3rd ending which I haven't seen, can you give some pointers on how to trigger this?

I'm wondering if it's linked to saving Helena?
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Correct - you have to rescue Helena after you have set the reactor to self-destruct.


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Do you ever get to go to the labs?? Lift door is still locked ... a whole new possible section I'm missing out on or not??
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There is no access to the laboratory at all!
Title: Spoilers (was: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ... !))
Post by: AMSDOS on 08:07, 20 September 10
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What's the etiquette on spoilers? Should replies for Spoilers be in Spoilers?  ;D  Just Wondered!  :)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 18:28, 20 September 10
Well I don't see any questions Nich didn't answer correctly. Thanks :).
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 02:56, 21 September 10
Thanks Nich/Targhan :)

I'm just wondering whether the 'saved games' from my 3" disk version could be loaded using the game playing the 3.5" version?

I don't have my 3.5" drive yet to test just now, when I'll do I'll borrow the 3.5" copy I gave my mate.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 18:31, 21 September 10
Not easily. Though the content is the same, the sector names are different. So copying several sectors from one coy to another of a different format will give a copy error. You could however use Discology to copy/paste the savegame sectors, but it's a boring process. Tell me if you're interested, so that I give you the sectors you need to copy (I need to remember what they are too :).
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Executioner on 02:22, 24 September 10
Quote from: Targhan on 18:31, 21 September 10
Not easily. Though the content is the same, the sector names are different. So copying several sectors from one coy to another of a different format will give a copy error. You could however use Discology to copy/paste the savegame sectors, but it's a boring process. Tell me if you're interested, so that I give you the sectors you need to copy (I need to remember what they are too :) .

Or you could use Xexor and simply write the sectors to a file, then read them back to the other sectors.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 21:39, 27 September 10
Hi all,

Orion Prime has now an improved website :
http://www.orion.cpcscene.com

You will find new topics, like Hints for desperate players, and Goodies, in which you'll be able to download the whole soundtrack of the game in OGG format (Yes ! Even the song still not uploaded to the CPC Radio !).

We may come for more if people requests it.

Thanks,
Targhan/Arkos.
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Post by: TFM on 00:29, 28 September 10
Awesome!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 03:35, 28 September 10
Quote from: Executioner on 02:22, 24 September 10
Or you could use Xexor and simply write the sectors to a file, then read them back to the other sectors.

Thanks for the suggestions, but I think that's probably a bit beyond me  :P

I think I'll start the game from scratch via emulator using the 3.5" version, I might be able to make a good walkthrough doc and video at some point then.


Great work on the updated site :)

Have you guys contacted Retro Gamer magazine to review the game yet?
I'm sure TMR (Jason) would make this the main game feature in his section.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 09:14, 28 September 10
@Targhan


Man, the Orion Prime OST is absolutely awesome!


Thank you very much! You made us very happy  ;)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 08:02, 29 September 10
Quote from: Targhan on 21:39, 27 September 10
Hi all,

Orion Prime has now an improved website :
http://www.orion.cpcscene.com

You will find new topics, like Hints for desperate players, and Goodies, in which you'll be able to download the whole soundtrack of the game in OGG format (Yes ! Even the song still not uploaded to the CPC Radio !).

We may come for more if people requests it.

Thanks,
Targhan/Arkos.

Ggooddamn, just came to work and I read this, now I have to wait all day to check it out... >:(
Title: Review of Orion Prime in Retro Gamer (was: Orion Prime Support)
Post by: Nich on 20:30, 06 November 10
Quote from: Xyphoe on 03:35, 28 September 10Have you guys contacted Retro Gamer magazine to review the game yet?
I'm sure TMR (Jason) would make this the main game feature in his section.
I received the latest issue (#83) of Retro Gamer today, and Orion Prime is indeed the main feature in the 'Homebrew' reviews section. It's come a bit late, but better late than never. Find out what Jason thought of it in the spoiler below:

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He gave it a rating of 92%! Wahey! :D
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 23:15, 07 November 10
Thanks for pointing that out, Nicholas. CPC Power! CPC Power! 
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Rolf Nordeide on 21:36, 02 December 10
Hi!

Can anyone give a little hint on how the Primary Pump works? It seems to be beyond my intelligence...  :-[

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: TFM on 18:29, 03 December 10
I had the same problems, the handbook helps in this case (but I had not time to try it out again)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Rolf Nordeide on 19:25, 17 December 10
Well, I read the instructions, and I FINALLY got the Primary Pump working again! Whew!

I also killed the monster, and now I'm looking for the Captain's room. I understand that the answer is to be found in the darkness, but I cannot find anything special! Where should I look?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 20:13, 17 December 10
Near the impaled man :).
Title: Re: Review of Orion Prime in Retro Gamer (was: Orion Prime Support)
Post by: TMR on 14:51, 18 December 10
Quote from: Nich on 20:30, 06 November 10
I received the latest issue (#83) of Retro Gamer today, and Orion Prime is indeed the main feature in the 'Homebrew' reviews section. It's come a bit late, but better late than never.

Sorry, didn't notice this back in November...

Just so people know, there's a couple of months lead in time for my stuff in Retro Gamer so the review was actually written during September - someone sent an email in through the address in the mag when the free version was released, it was passed to Darran and then to me.

i do try to keep an eye on what's happening at these forums (and can i just say you're all very naughty for the pops at the C64, talk about brown envy! =-) but the same is true of Atari Age, Denial, the CSDb, WOS, Retro Remakes, the MSXdev site and far too many RSS feeds to remember, so if there's any new release or in progress project you lot feel i should be aware of, please feel free to drop me a line through the PM system here or at the Retro Gamer (http://retrogamer.net/) forum, through Oldschool Gaming (http://oldschool-gaming.com/) (a few people from the other 8-bit communities bring over release notes from other sites and, since Shaun Bebbington pops by as well, it's a good catch-all to let both of us know at once), by email at jason[dot]kelk[squiggle]gmail[spot]com or on Facebook, whatever works best.

Oh, h'lo and everything since this is a first post. =-)
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Post by: Gryzor on 19:38, 19 December 10
Hello and welcome then! :)

As far as brown envy goes, I think you'll find that apart from the usual boy-ish trashing there are some real discussions on other machines
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 21:51, 23 December 10
Aw man, can´t get past that bloody primary pump minigame  :'(
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 18:07, 29 December 10
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I finally got through the primary pump minigame by setting the emulation speed at 50% (which still makes me mad because on a real CPC couldn't do it...).


Now trying to get to the captain's room...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 23:40, 30 December 10
Ok, I managed to get my shuttle's energy recharged and it's also being repaired.


Now, I need a little help here:


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I think I have to get the captain's card, which I guess is in the reactor, but I cannot get through the door to the reactor.


And I'm trying to solve the collector's maze but I also can go nowhere with it, and I think what remains now to be done is here on the reactor level along with the main computer on level 5...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nich on 15:06, 03 January 11
Quote from: robcfg on 23:40, 30 December 10
Now, I need a little help here:

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I think I have to get the captain's card, which I guess is in the reactor, but I cannot get through the door to the reactor.

And I'm trying to solve the collector's maze but I also can go nowhere with it, and I think what remains now to be done is here on the reactor level along with the main computer on level 5...

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You will need the help of the robot to navigate the maze on level 6. There is something in that maze that will enable you to unlock the door to the reactor.
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Post by: robcfg on 16:00, 03 January 11
Hi Nich,


Thanks for your reply!


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I thought that was the answer, but I cannot figure how to solve the maze because I cannot stay much longer than 4-5 screens without radioactive protection and I cannot use the robot while in the maze due to radiation.


My current progress in the maze is as follows:


(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9159/opmaze.jpg)


If I go through the open door to the room to the right of the robot, I can open the passage to the back of the maze, but I get stuck there and die. And I can't figure how to get the robot out there and still be able to go through the open door (as it closes to let the robot go out there).


I don't know if all those minigames where easy for you or not, but for me it almost made me stop playing the game altogether.


Thanks for your help!
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Post by: Targhan on 13:04, 04 January 11
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Oh, you should first launch ALL the missiles, so that the radioactivity is bearable to a human !
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Post by: robcfg on 13:46, 04 January 11
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Thanks for the tip, I thought that the last missile couldn't be launched so there's always some radioactivity to make the level trickier.


I'll try it later.
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Post by: robcfg on 11:47, 05 January 11
Hail to the King, baby!


I managed to get to the first ending, and I'm now playing to get the other two.


I loved the scroller and its great music!
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Post by: robcfg on 14:02, 05 January 11
Second ending achieved!


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Nice screen and music! Any hints on how to get the third one? absolutely no clue...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Rolf Nordeide on 19:48, 05 January 11
How do I launch that last missile - if it is possible?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nich on 22:21, 06 January 11
Quote from: Rolf Nordeide on 19:48, 05 January 11
How do I launch that last missile - if it is possible?
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It is possible - but the lever is jammed, so you will need to find a way to free it. However, I wouldn't advise pulling the lever yourself once you have freed it!
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Post by: MiguelSky on 13:04, 07 January 11
Quote from: robcfg on 14:02, 05 January 11
Second ending achieved!


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Nice screen and music! Any hints on how to get the third one? absolutely no clue...


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Are you alone in the run?
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Post by: robcfg on 13:12, 07 January 11
Quote from: MiguelSky on 13:04, 07 January 11

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Are you alone in the run?



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Yes, lonelier than the one XD


I know I have to look for Helena because I read all the spoilers :P but I have not even the slightest idea on where to find her...
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Post by: Targhan on 13:23, 07 January 11
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Maybe you should go watch a good movie...
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Post by: robcfg on 15:59, 07 January 11
Quote from: Targhan on 13:23, 07 January 11
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Maybe you should go watch a good movie...



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I've watched the two films that can be watched, the one of the captain's room and the one in the garden, but no clue comes out of it. I also cannot find another camera number to get a new film.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 18:35, 07 January 11
Quote from: robcfg on 15:59, 07 January 11

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I've watched the two films that can be watched, the one of the captain's room and the one in the garden, but no clue comes out of it. I also cannot find another camera number to get a new film.

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Perhaps another video could fix it...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 15:32, 08 January 11
Quote from: MiguelSky on 18:35, 07 January 11
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Perhaps another video could fix it...



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There's only another video that points to the floor or wall of a room with light, but has no camera ID to get the video recorded on the microdisc.


Besides that, I cannot find any other video on the station that could point me to the solution...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 19:58, 08 January 11
Quote from: robcfg
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There's only another video that points to the floor or wall of a room with light, but has no camera ID to get the video recorded on the microdisc.
Besides that, I cannot find any other video on the station that could point me to the solution...


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Perhaps another video could fix it... 
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 00:37, 09 January 11
Quote from: MiguelSky on 19:58, 08 January 11

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Perhaps another video could fix it... 



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Argfs! I managed to awaken Helena and now I have no idea what to do!


Nich said that you have to rescue her after the reactor is set to self destruct, which gives very little time.


As you cannot use the elevator, you have to go directly to level 2 and from there to level 1. Is she in the pumps level?


Tried to rescue her before and after setting the reactor to destruct and still didn't get the new ending :(


Edit: Also on level 4 couldn't find her after the reactor activation.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 01:08, 09 January 11
Quote from: robcfg on 00:37, 09 January 11
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Also on level 4 couldn't find her after the reactor activation.
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Well, you must first contact her here...

Quote
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Is she in the pumps level?
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Now yes !! :D
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 01:11, 09 January 11
Ok, forget it, I FINALLY GOT IT!!!


Wow, that was a hell of a game, but one of the best games ever!


The only thing that I truly dislike was the racinga and the primary pump minigames. I started to play the french version and stopped playing it because of the primary pump, some months later I bought it and got stucked in the same place, so I had to play it in winape at 50% speed in order to achieve it which is a bit of a dissapointment because I couldn't play it on my cpc.


Anyway, great great game, great history and awesome technically speaking!


C'est magnifique!  8)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 02:02, 09 January 11
The racing game is actually pretty easy on a real CPC, I think... Of course you only have to beat the "HAK" hiscore. As for the primary pump game, maybe it's a bit too difficult... It's quite hard to judge if a game is hard or not...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nordeide on 12:08, 09 January 11
How do I make "Spoiler" comments?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 12:46, 09 January 11
There's a "spoiler" icon, just after the "insert quote" (which is after the '#' icon) when writing a reply.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 16:01, 09 January 11
Quote from: Targhan on 12:46, 09 January 11
There's a "spoiler" icon, just after the "insert quote" (which is after the '#' icon) when writing a reply.

Ah !! I made the mine using the tags [spoiler ] and [/spoiler ]  :laugh:
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nordeide on 17:12, 09 January 11
Ah, thanks!  :)

Some questions, then:

Level 1:
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Where do I get the code to the mysterious machine?


Level 6:
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My trusty robot is standing idle in the reactor's gangway. What next to do from here?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 18:35, 09 January 11
Quote from: Nordeide on 17:12, 09 January 11
Ah, thanks!  :)

Some questions, then:

Level 1:
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Where do I get the code to the mysterious machine?


Level 6:
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My trusty robot is standing idle in the reactor's gangway. What next to do from here?



Level 1:
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If the misterious machine is the one to the right of the energy recharger you don't need a code. Could you tell me what are you trying to do there so I can help without spoiling you?  8)



Level 6:
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In that level you have to solve a puzzle on the collector doors so you can access the collector computer. You have to use your robot, and yourself to ope the way to the computer.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nordeide on 21:39, 09 January 11
Thanks for your reply! Some clarifications:

Level 1:
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Yes, that one. If I use the machine with one of the circuit boards that I got from the Masked Hacker, I get a prompt "System to initialize:", and it asks for a 6-digit code.

Level 6:
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I have already solved that puzzle. I used the door code on the security computer on Level 1, and I am able to enter the reactor gangway with the robot. I also got the Electrical Maintenace magnetic card. So now I need a way to jump over the hole in the gangway.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 21:52, 09 January 11
Well, you should try the following:


Level 1:


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On Level 5, there is one subsystem that repairs your ship that doesn't have enough power, the error message shall contain the system number.



Level 6:


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Maybe someone is hanging around with the item you need  :laugh:
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nordeide on 09:09, 10 January 11
Level 1: OK, got it. Still some issues, but I'll get back to that later.
Level 6: I already have that item. How do I use it?
Level 4:
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How do I open the door in the captain's room?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 09:55, 10 January 11
Level 6:


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 Go to the light, Caroline...  :P



Level 4:


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You can't.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nordeide on 21:27, 10 January 11
But how? The robot can't help me, and I get fried!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 22:36, 10 January 11
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you cannot get the robot to do that for you. You must use the cable with the lamp to cross the reactor gap
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nordeide on 11:16, 11 January 11
But how do I enter the reactor without being nuked to death?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 11:44, 11 January 11
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Assuming you have fired all 4 missiles (yes, it can be done), there will be still some radioactivity but you'll have enough time to activate the destruction mechanism and go back to the decontamination shower.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: TFM on 19:31, 12 January 11
Hey, that's a good hint, never thought about it that way ;-)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nordeide on 10:19, 13 January 11
Hi, and thank you all for your help!

I have now completed the game with the first ending, and now it is time to go for the other endings!
But I still haven't seen Helena, who has been mentioned many times throughout this thread.

So I have to ask, where can I find her?
I've seen the hints given earlier, and I think that I understand them, but I'm still stuck.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe she is to be found...
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...in the corridor outside the Captain's room, right? At least the fixed movie made me think so. If so, how do I get in contact with her? Or if I'm totally wrong, where should I look?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 10:50, 13 January 11
Hey, congratulations!

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You're on the right track. Remember to double check everything just to be sure of what you're seeing ;)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nordeide on 14:27, 13 January 11
Congratulations? Well, thanks, although I might not deserve it after the ending that I just found...  :-[
Oh well. Good thing one can always reload and try again.
On to the last quest:
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Helena is finally awake! It did pay off to rub one's eyes and look again, thanks!  :)
And then, finally... The code to the reactor! One part found in the hallway. Reading the text (aloud, even!) only gives me the 3 obvious digits. What is it that I do not see (or hear)?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 15:50, 13 January 11
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Well I don't know how is it written in english, but you should read articles such as "a" or "an" as "one", which happens to be a number too  ;)




All the 6 digits, as said in other posts in this thread are indeed in that quoted sentence.



And I think that finishing the game is quite an effort (though a nice one) and should be celebrated!  8)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nordeide on 18:49, 13 January 11
Whew! Second ending achieved! Thanks a lot, robcfg! I was finally able to understand the text!
But I couldn't find Helena, even though it had been revealed in an earlier spoiler...
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...that she would be on Level 0.
But still I couldn't find her. Where to look?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 19:02, 13 January 11
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In order to find Helena, you have to set the reactor to self destruct and wait for her to call you.


There's only one place where you could receive such communication.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 11:42, 17 January 11
I have a couple of questions for Targhan:


1) How do I trigger the 'Secret Mode' that we're told in the credit scroller?  :o


2) How is it the german translation going? Just curiosity, you know  8)


I'm still enjoying the game...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 16:04, 17 January 11
1) How do I trigger the 'Secret Mode' that we're told in the credit scroller?
I may tell the secret some day :).


2) How is it the german translation going? Just curiosity, you know 

TFM and Octoate have apparently almost finished the work. It was going slow because of me (no spare time at all right now !!). Who knows, maybe in a month or two...

Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 00:01, 18 January 11
Quote1) How do I trigger the 'Secret Mode' that we're told in the credit scroller?
I may tell the secret some day (http://cpcwiki.eu/forum/Smileys/akyhne/smiley.gif).
Aaaaawwwwwwww, you're evil! :P



Quote2) How is it the german translation going? Just curiosity, you know 
TFM and Octoate have apparently almost finished the work. It was going slow because of me (no spare time at all right now !!). Who knows, maybe in a month or two...

Nice! It will be the perfect excuse for playing it again! 8)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: TFM on 06:23, 18 January 11
Quote from: Targhan on 16:04, 17 January 11
2) How is it the german translation going? Just curiosity, you know 

TFM and Octoate have apparently almost finished the work. It was going slow because of me (no spare time at all right now !!). Who knows, maybe in a month or two...

Finished it today, you got email ;-)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 08:46, 19 January 11
Does anyone (Targhan?) have any objections to me starting a long-play video for Orion Prime?

Let me know if so.

Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 11:10, 19 January 11
No, I'd be honoured :). Just know that it takes *me* about one hour (or is it two ?? Can't remember) to finish the game by knowing everything about it :).
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 11:11, 19 January 11
Oh, and... please don't show the ending (or just the first part)... Since the German version hasn't been release, maybe some people would still like to discover the game by themselves...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: mr_lou on 13:08, 19 January 11
Quote from: Targhan on 11:11, 19 January 11
Oh, and... please don't show the ending (or just the first part)... Since the German version hasn't been release, maybe some people would still like to discover the game by themselves...

Surely they can just avoid seeing the video?  ;)
I'm still saving the game for the right moment, when I have the time it deserves. Then I think it'll be a better experience too.  :)
This is also why I haven't read much of this thread.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 17:40, 19 January 11
He could upload the ending in a separate version; but I can see Targhan's worry, so I'd stay off it...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 02:41, 20 January 11
Quote from: Targhan on 11:11, 19 January 11
Oh, and... please don't show the ending (or just the first part)... Since the German version hasn't been release, maybe some people would still like to discover the game by themselves...

I think I'm going to do it in parts over time, like an ongoing series. Probably by the time I get to the ending the German version will have long been released  :laugh:
Seriously though, when do you think this version will be released?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nordeide on 09:27, 20 January 11
I also want to know the Secret Mode! Pretty please with sugar on top...?  :angel:
I've now seen all the three endings (Thanks, robcfg!), and I must say it is the most impressive game I've ever seen on the Amstrad! I've only played it on emulators yet, I'll try it on my CPC6128 one day.
But I think there is a plot hole:
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When I fired the missiles, the noise from them were described as "loud enough to wake up the dead", or something like that. Yet, I had to wake up Helena, even after the noise from four such missiles!
What do you think?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 11:11, 20 January 11
>Seriously though, when do you think this version will be released?
On a month, *at best*. Don't count on it, though, there's still beta test to do once the game is translated.
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>When I fired the missiles, the noise from them were described as "loud enough to wake up the dead", or something like that. Yet, I had to wake up Helena, even after the noise from four such missiles!

Well, no :). After all, there are two levels between them, so... :).
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: TFM on 18:36, 20 January 11
Secret mode??? What is it? A kind of cheat mode?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 21:52, 20 January 11
Maybe... but maybe not :) .
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 23:30, 20 January 11
Maybe it allows players to enter level 3... then again maybe not  :laugh:
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: TFM on 23:55, 20 January 11
Quote from: robcfg on 23:30, 20 January 11
Maybe it allows players to enter level 3... then again maybe not  :laugh:

I don't think so ;-) In real life I work in a lab, and I promise you, under this circumstances, Level 3 is totally sealed.
Title: Goodies?
Post by: Nordeide on 08:02, 21 January 11
According to the Orion Prime web site, those who bought the disc version of the game got some goodies with it. And among them, there was "a very special and cryptic negative". Does anybody there have this negative, and could you post a picture of it? Would be interesting to see it.
Too bad I didn't know about this game while they were still selling it!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 12:43, 21 January 11
I scanned it to see it properly, but as it is the dev team wish, I'll not publish it anywhere.


I think it's ok if I mail it to you and you don't publish it either.


Targhan, what do you think about this matter?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 15:01, 21 January 11
We're a bit against releasing it because it was meant to be a goodie exclusive for the people who bought the game, so please don't spread it on the net. However, if some people want your scan and it doesn't bother you to send it, then it's ok to me.
Title: True Colours?
Post by: Nordeide on 19:16, 21 January 11
Hello again!  :)
According to the disc cover, the images in the game are displayed in 125 colours. Can anyone explain how this is accomplished? I thought the Amstrad's palette was restricted to 27 colours.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MacDeath on 19:39, 21 January 11
Not exactly all images in the game...

Some screens use flipping screens to achieve a pseudo 120+ colours...

you alternate 2 versions of the same picture with different inks/colours set so the eyes see those as a crossbreed between both colours...

(http://sylvestre.cpcscene.com/articles/makingof/cl%e9s+.gif)

Needless to say it is not recommended for Epileptic persons. ;D
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Xyphoe on 03:12, 22 January 11
Quote from: Targhan on 15:01, 21 January 11
We're a bit against releasing it because it was meant to be a goodie exclusive for the people who bought the game, so please don't spread it on the net. However, if some people want your scan and it doesn't bother you to send it, then it's ok to me.

Well it's already scanned on the CPC Power website....
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 10:10, 22 January 11
You'd need someone with a negatives scanner?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: jbaudrand on 10:29, 22 January 11
MacDeath: is there a tool for making this? I mean, I need this kind of flipping screen on our project on Atari 2600 and I was looking for tutorial, hint tips for working pictures with this technique.

Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 12:01, 22 January 11
I didn't notice... Anyway the scan of the negative is so crappy, it's completely useless, you can't distinguish a thing :).

@JBaudrant : Sylvestre is using his own technique, using Photoshop on PC. His website may talk a bit about it, I don't remember. Or simply ask him...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: jbaudrand on 13:17, 22 January 11
Targhan: The flipping webpage is not available on sylvestre's website!  :(
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MacDeath on 06:50, 30 January 11
.gif is not good enough to do flipping or anything else...

You should ask supersly.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: jbaudrand on 20:14, 30 January 11

   :-[ well, no urgency for the moment
  ^^ our game progress slowly and we are not sure we will have enough space for add a title screen.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 09:56, 31 January 11
Fipscreens can be created easily.
JavaCPC Paint offers this feature for normal 16k screens.
You can edit 2 screens @ the same time and then also do a preview of your flipscreen.

Only restriction is:
- Both images must be in the same mode
- You have to use the same palette for both

JavaCPC also offers a "deinterlace" filter which removes the flickering.
(I do that by painting 2 screens on 1 where the 2nd has 50% transparency)

Example:
(http://cpc-live.com/flipscreen1.png)

Same can be done for CPC+ flipscreens:
(http://cpc-live.com/flip+.png)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: redbox on 20:44, 31 January 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 09:56, 31 January 11
Same can be done for CPC+ flipscreens:

What game is this imported from?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 20:46, 31 January 11
It's a mockup for the game "Werewolves of London".
http://amon-devilman.deviantart.com/art/Werewolves-of-London-65636727
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: redbox on 20:54, 31 January 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 20:46, 31 January 11
It's a mockup for the game "Werewolves of London".

Looks really cool, and I think I even prefer the CPC+ version  :)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: mahlemiut on 22:06, 31 January 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 20:46, 31 January 11
It's a mockup for the game "Werewolves of London".
http://amon-devilman.deviantart.com/art/Werewolves-of-London-65636727
I'd be all for someone making a playable game that looks like that  ;D
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 23:55, 31 January 11
Hey guys,


We're getting a little off-topic here, why not make a new thread on game mockups or general tips on graphics on the CPC?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nordeide on 18:27, 01 February 11
I guess it's all my fault, it all started with me asking about that 125-colour screen...  :-[
BTW: Any news regarding that cheat mode...?  :angel:
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 18:38, 01 February 11
Quote from: TarghanNo.


:laugh:
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: SyX on 18:50, 01 May 11
A few days ago in the article "31 Homebrew Games Worth Playing (http://www.1up.com/features/31-homebrew-games-worth-playing)" of 1Up, Orion Prime has been mentioned on page 4  :)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 19:45, 01 May 11
Niiice and well-deserved...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Optimus on 19:13, 09 May 11
That's a wonderful game. I have only recently found the guts to play through it. Such non-linearity is great, I don't remember any adventure (though I haven't played everything) where you can do what you have to do in so many different orders. The riddles are hard enough to keep you but just right, quite logical. I am glad there is not a solution released yet because I had the fun trying hard to solve it, where usually I don't have the patience and I get into temptation and then the fullfillment of finding something by yourself is not there.


So, this is the first time I am asking for some help, even though I came numerous of times in this forum and found out lot's of things I was missing.


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I am near the end. I don't know what I have missed.
So, I have opened the reactor door but only the robot can go inside. It can get the commander's card but that's it.
When I go inside, I get instantly a message saying that my internal organs are fried from a radioactive wave.
Looking at answers, in this forum, I get "oh, you fired the four missiles, so you can go in the reactor door very fast and do what you have to do fast". But this is not the case. I get the message of death instantly! I can't react. The part with the four missiles was done a lot before and that was used to move safely in the 6th floor except from inside the reactor door.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Optimus on 19:48, 09 May 11

Ahhh,. I answered that myself!!!

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Just so you know. I was just too stuborn. I wanted to go into the reactor door and do what I have to do before doing anything else. What if I avoid this and just go to my ship and try to take off since everything is in order? Then I receive a PDA message.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Optimus on 20:25, 09 May 11

Someone said about the final quatrain password:
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Well I don't know how is it written in english, but you should read articles such as "a" or "an" as "one", which happens to be a number too



I don't get it. I mean,. do I also have to read "an"d, peas"an"ts as ones? If I do so then I get way more than 6 numbers.


Without it, I still get my six numbers. But they still don't work (along with the 3 numbers in a piece of paper). I have tried (3 number) before (6 numbers) or after, or with some numbers mixed. Why???


Help!!!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: sigh on 20:47, 09 May 11
Quote from: SyX on 18:50, 01 May 11
A few days ago in the article "31 Homebrew Games Worth Playing (http://www.1up.com/features/31-homebrew-games-worth-playing)" of 1Up, Orion Prime has been mentioned on page 4  :)

Well done!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Optimus on 05:28, 10 May 11
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jsyk, I thought one number is 10, in ex"ten"ded. But it probably isn't and I was missing two more numbers that are there.



That was a great game. I even admire the final upscroller, where it seems there is a trick similar to antialiasing used, for slower moving smoother scrolling. Cool!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Targhan on 07:10, 11 May 11
>where it seems there is a trick similar to antialiasing used

AT LEAST someone who notices it :). Well done indeed, Optimus :).

Trg.Aks
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 23:45, 04 July 11
Hey!


I managed to complete the game with the 3 endings in just 2h 47min 53secs, do I get a cookie for that?  ;)


Still one of my favourite games. I like specially when you rescue Helena and you have to run to the ship. Ahhh, the tension, the emotion!
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Post by: Targhan on 12:02, 07 July 11
>I managed to complete the game with the 3 endings in just 2h 47min 53secs, do I get a cookie for that?

No, because I'm sure you can do it in twice less time :). Thanks for sharing your experience.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Optimus on 10:36, 05 August 11
Quote from: Targhan on 07:10, 11 May 11
>where it seems there is a trick similar to antialiasing used

AT LEAST someone who notices it :) . Well done indeed, Optimus :) .

Trg.Aks


It blends so well that if it wasn't for the emulator I might have not noticed it :)
Few days ago I restored back my real CPC and had a longplay till I reach this part again. I couldn't notice it but there was something about this scroller anyway (and too long, I slept in my bed because it was too late after playing for three hours, and watched the scroller till I slept :)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 11:28, 05 August 11
Quote from: Optimus on 05:28, 10 May 11
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jsyk, I thought one number is 10, in ex"ten"ded. But it probably isn't and I was missing two more numbers that are there.



That was a great game. I even admire the final upscroller, where it seems there is a trick similar to antialiasing used, for slower moving smoother scrolling. Cool!

Argh, now I *must* finish it... :(

Btw, still no walkthrough out there?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 12:23, 05 August 11
If you get stucked, PM me  ;D
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 15:13, 05 August 11
Haven't begun (re)playing it yet, I was just saying :)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: TFM on 17:26, 05 August 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 11:28, 05 August 11
Btw, still no walkthrough out there?

My guess is, that this has time until the German version has been released for some time.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: chiefnewo on 13:17, 10 August 11
This game has been mostly fun so far, but is really frustrating me at the moment.

I've read all the spoilers in here and some have been helpful. I'd love it if someone could answer a couple of questions for me so maybe I can start moving forward again:

Spoiler: ShowHide

Is there anything beyond the debris? I am guessing I want to get to the officer's quarters. I have tried wandering around in the dark and "looking for the light" but everything just looks purple instead. Perhaps telling me which room I am meant to be looking in for this light?

I got the commander's card but the AI is refusing to talk to me. How can I convince it to help me?

Finally (for the moment): I went through the maze of connecting rooms on the 6th level and found a computer with a bunch of information in it (that had the code to unlock the reactor door). Is there anything else in there or can I leave it alone now?


Thanks very much for any help. Please don't be too cryptic as the game is doing enough of that for me!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 14:18, 10 August 11
Hi!


Here are your answers:


Spoiler: ShowHide

1) Yes, you're right. You have to go beyond the debris to office quarters. You have to look in the room where the telephone, and arcade machines are. There's a corner that you can check, that has a glow which can only be seen in the 'dark'. After you check it, you can enter there with the light on.


2) You need the recorder for this. Save the camera in which you see the captain talking in his room to the microdisc, go to level 4 and play it at the cinema, and record it with the recorder. Then go to the AI, use your card and then identify yourself by playing the recorder again.


3) You can now forget about it, but you have not the full destruction code, only the first part.



Hope this helps!  :D


Oh, and welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: chiefnewo on 22:26, 10 August 11
Quote from: robcfg on 14:18, 10 August 11
Hope this helps!  :D

Oh, and welcome to the forum!

Thanks heaps!

One more thing:
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 I found the log about the lottery and went down to the store, but it says that the item was already delivered and 0 remain. None of the crew lockers match the name of the person who won the lottery and for the life of me I can't remember where I found the log? I've been pixel hunting all over the ship but I feel like I'm missing something obvious again.
Can I get a push in the right direction?

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 03:37, 11 August 11
Hi and welcome :)
Spoiler: ShowHide
You must read the messages
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 08:51, 11 August 11
Spoiler: ShowHide

If you entered the code for the item, you should look in a box or tray that its near the floor. That's where the items are dropped, you only have to take it.

Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: chiefnewo on 06:25, 12 August 11
Thanks again!

Spoiler: ShowHide

I misread the message as meaning the intended person had already received the item and I was meant to hunt down wherever they had stashed it.


Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 06:46, 12 August 11
That is !! :)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: tastefulmrship on 19:37, 18 August 11
I must admit I am rather embarrassed to say that I have only just played this, simply astounding, game today! Being someone who's 'kinda famous' for his knowledge of point and click adventure games, you would have thought I'd play it on the day of release... then release the full speed-run walkthrough a few hours later! But...
... anyway!

Thanks and congratulations to everyone involved for such a great product! It looks, sounds and plays brilliantly! Can't wait for the sequel! ^_^

Am I the only one who wasn't annoyed with the Pump Station mini-game? It was a decent distraction from puzzle solving and, without it, I might still be stuck now! (That Robot ID puzzle was a real stinker and I needed some time to think it over!)
I also liked the fact that you get a bigger, better ending depending on how much you complete. It really rewards the player who takes the time to find the only survivor and destroy the ship!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: TFM on 00:21, 19 August 11
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 19:37, 18 August 11
Am I the only one who wasn't annoyed with the Pump Station mini-game?

Well... I still haven't made it  :o  And I had the defined advantage to know all texts (cause I'm working on the german version). But hey, it's time enough ;-)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Nich on 19:55, 19 August 11
Quote from: TFM/FS on 00:21, 19 August 11
Well... I still haven't made it  :o  And I had the defined advantage to know all texts (cause I'm working on the german version). But hey, it's time enough ;-)

Knowing all the texts won't help you solve the Pump Station mini-game - but I'm sure you knew that already! ;)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: TFM on 20:05, 19 August 11
Quote from: Nich on 19:55, 19 August 11
Knowing all the texts won't help you solve the Pump Station mini-game - but I'm sure you knew that already! ;)

Well, since you mention it... that's a new way to look at it!  :laugh:  And I always tried to get this Update to 1.2 of the Hackerboy to make the PumpStation Game. Now my Hackerboy is 2.0 and I still get burned if I leave an elevator...
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Post by: Carnivius on 20:16, 19 August 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 09:56, 31 January 11

Same can be done for CPC+ flipscreens:
(http://cpc-live.com/flip+.png)

The heck?  My pixels sure have a habit of turning up in strange places and usages.  Looks kinda neat on a fake CPC monitor screen like that though.  Sorry for going off topic.  Funnily enough that mock up shot was actually based on a CPC game anyways.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 12:21, 20 August 11
This looks exceedingly sweet... where is it taken from?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Carnivius on 13:28, 21 August 11
That was a piece I did for a Pixel Joint challenge called 'Retro Remakes' in which we just were to make new mock ups of old games.  I based mine on the game 'Werewolves of London' game I had on my CPC which I found quite fun now and then.  It's a pretty extensive remake mock up and doesn't bare a whole lot of similarities to the original game but the clues are there. 

Devilmarkus has 'CPC Monitor-fied' the piece to make that screenshot there which I hadn't seen before a couple days ago.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 14:19, 21 August 11
Well, it's seriously nice. Not only are the pixels very nice, but your drawing skills and aesthetics are really good...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Carnivius on 15:41, 21 August 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 14:19, 21 August 11
Well, it's seriously nice. Not only are the pixels very nice, but your drawing skills and aesthetics are really good...

Yeah I'm surprised it still looks pretty decent in wide pixels since it wasn't made that way originally.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: mahlemiut on 00:02, 22 August 11
You know, I'd have played Werewolves of London a lot more if it looked like that.  ;D
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Post by: TFM on 19:46, 22 August 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 14:19, 21 August 11
Well, it's seriously nice. Not only are the pixels very nice, but your drawing skills and aesthetics are really good...

Yes, it's nice. But if you guys want to use it for a game, then some overwork would be needed:

- First, the worst: The cross a the bottle (upper left corner in picture) is a classical artefact from a screen-conversion. That shady pixels near the center of the cross really disturb. Just replace them by white and it looks far better.

- The background horizon (blue part on left side, behind house) has a lot of bulky double-pixel spots, Instead of making it faint it just makes it blocky. Overwork by hand can make that better.

- The colors over all are like "worn out and after-darkened". Since you are using the Plus(!) palette, better colors can be choosen.

Since you guys are experts in GFX I expect more  ;)  Good luck with that!
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Gryzor on 07:56, 23 August 11
Aw, come on... if there was ever such a game coming out it'd be the best looking game ever...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Carnivius on 09:44, 23 August 11
and to be fair the original piece is not a CPC graphic at all when I created it.  It's just used here run through the emulator or something Devilmarkus did to it :P   When I do a something for the CPC I specifically make it from scratch with the CPC's actual graphic specs rather than just converting pre-existing graphics.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: TFM on 20:46, 23 August 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 07:56, 23 August 11
Aw, come on... if there was ever such a game coming out it'd be the best looking game ever...

Right! But it's just a pic, not a game ;-)
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: zorg on 21:08, 20 May 12
Maybe its a silly question, but is there something I need to do in the CAT sequence of the game, or am i just torturing myself?
it says:
"Ready to launch after COPYing the following key: > gibberish"
It may be my paranoid delusional self, but I think they are trying to tell me something here...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: MiguelSky on 01:28, 21 May 12
Try to push the COPY key...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Inao on 13:57, 28 November 21
Hi all,
First many thanks to the game authors for this amazing game!
Quote from: TFM on 20:05, 19 August 11And I always tried to get this Update to 1.2 of the Hackerboy to make the PumpStation Game. Now my Hackerboy is 2.0 and I still get burned if I leave an elevator...
I have find all the ends of the game with some help found on this forum (many thanks to the contributor), but my Hackerboy is still 1.0. How to upgrade it?
I hope there is still someone around after almost ten years...
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: CraigsBar on 22:57, 29 November 21
Quote from: Inao on 13:57, 28 November 21
Hi all,
First many thanks to the game authors for this amazing game!I have find all the ends of the game with some help found on this forum (many thanks to the contributor), but my Hackerboy is still 1.0. How to upgrade it?
I hope there is still someone around after almost ten years...


Yeah, I'm still here/ Never got very far in Orion Prime. but I enjoyed marvelling at the wonderful environment it created. I wonder if anyone would like to patch it for an Amiga Mouse on the MultiPlay board?

Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: manossg on 07:42, 30 November 21
Has there been found a way to bypass the (unnecessarily difficult) pump part?
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: robcfg on 20:33, 30 November 21
What I did while playing on a real CPC was to dump the disk, play with my save game on WinAPE at 50% speed to be able to complete the pump game, wrote the disk back and continued playing.
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: manossg on 20:56, 30 November 21
Quote from: robcfg on 20:33, 30 November 21
What I did while playing on a real CPC was to dump the disk, play with my save game on WinAPE at 50% speed to be able to complete the pump game, wrote the disk back and continued playing.


Devilish!  8)
I might try that approach. 
Title: Re: Orion Prime Support (was: Orion Prime : ordering has started !)
Post by: Inao on 14:44, 05 December 21
Quote from: manossg on 07:42, 30 November 21
Has there been found a way to bypass the (unnecessarily difficult) pump part?
Somewhere in this thread the game coder has said that there isn't any way to bypass it.
By the way, you can still almost reach the first end without doing it (you can collect the star map and repair your spaceship).
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