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Title: WORDLE CPC
Post by: arnolde on 19:48, 25 February 22
Hello folks,

nobody asked for it, nobody needs it, but I wanted to be the one to make it:

Wordle for our beloved CPC. It includes word lists in four languages and the possibility to add a custom word list.
So you can add any other language (as long as it uses the 26 standard letters of the latin alphabet) or make easier ones if the included wordlist are too heavy for you.

It's all explained in the program but of course I'm happy to help and looking forward to your feedback – and bug reports  :picard:

EDIT: I fixed the amount of guesses. Like in the original, it's six now instead of 5
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: robcfg on 23:00, 25 February 22
Congrats!

It's nicely done and quite addictive.

I have to report on small flaw though  8)
Screenshot 2022-02-25 at 22.53.29.jpg
As you can see, there's an 'E' in the right place, but if I add another 'E', it appears in yellow even if there's no other 'E' in the word. 

Hilariously, it made me try 'EURE' followed by all the letter with no result  ;D
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: arnolde on 23:21, 25 February 22
Quote from: robcfg on 23:00, 25 February 22even if there's no other 'E' in the word
Well.. let's call it a feature that makes the game more tricky... 
I mean, virtually, there is an E in the word, but not at this place  ;)
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: robcfg on 00:20, 26 February 22
I'm not quite convinced, but it can be very tricky to solve.

Now I'm intrigued on how does the original Wordle handle it  :)
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: andycadley on 08:16, 26 February 22
If I had to guess, first remove all the letters that are in the correct position. Then one by one remove letters that are in other guessed positions either by flagging them as yellow or not present at all. By taking them out of the pool of letters to compare against, you avoid the chance of something double counting like this.
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: arnolde on 08:57, 26 February 22
Yes, but honestly, I find there is something unlogical in the way that the official Wordle treats this problem: 
If i use robcfg's example with the original rules, PUREE would have the first E green and the second one grey. But grey means: The letter doesn't appear in the word at all
Also, if I use a letter twice in the original game, both positions being wrong (f.i. guessing "SHEEP" when the solution is "BEARD"), it only makes one yellow and the other one grey. This way, the colors shows how many E's there are in the word.
In my version, you don't get this information, both E's are yellow. But the advantage is that you learn not only one, but two positions that you can outrule for the letter in question.
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: robcfg on 09:48, 26 February 22
This is one of these things that look easy but are, in fact, not.

In my case, I found it a bit misleading, as I was searching for a word with two E's until I realised there was no room for that and hence my last attempt with 'LURES', when I realised there were only one 'E'.

Maybe I was just unlucky to encounter such situation, but if it repeats many times, then it's not as fun.
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 11:22, 26 February 22
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: andycadley on 14:08, 26 February 22
Quote from: arnolde on 08:57, 26 February 22Yes, but honestly, I find there is something unlogical in the way that the official Wordle treats this problem:
If i use robcfg's example with the original rules, PUREE would have the first E green and the second one grey. But grey means: The letter doesn't appear in the word at all.
Also, if I use a letter twice in the original game, both positions being wrong (f.i. guessing "SHEEP" when the solution is "BEARD"), it only makes one yellow and the other one grey. This way, the colors shows how many E's there are in the word.
In my version, you don't get this information, both E's are yellow. But the advantage is that you learn not only one, but two positions that you can outrule for the letter in question.
The problem with that is it breaks common strategies for dealing with words that contain the same letter multiple times and makes it very difficult to distinguish whether you have the correct letters in the wrong position, or whether one of them is counting twice.
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: arnolde on 18:58, 27 February 22
OK, I'll try to change the checking/colouring routine according to the original rules.  :-X
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: arnolde on 09:42, 28 February 22
I modified the routine and updated the disk file. Anyone wants to check if the colouring works corectly now? 
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: Nich on 21:28, 28 February 22
Quote from: arnolde on 09:42, 28 February 22I modified the routine and updated the disk file. Anyone wants to check if the colouring works corectly now?
It seems to work OK for me.
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: GUNHED on 12:42, 01 March 22
Yellow and Green look (for my eyes) pretty much the same. Can the colors be changed in options? Or use a darker green?  :)
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: eto on 17:04, 01 March 22
Surprisingly fun ;-)


One comment: When I don't find the word in about 50% of the cases, the screen switches directly back to the menu without showing the solution. Probably it does show it, but it switches too fast to recognise anything. I definitely only hit enter once.
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: arnolde on 20:56, 01 March 22
Quote from: GUNHED on 12:42, 01 March 22Can the colors be changed in options?
That's a nice idea, I hop I find the time to implement that in the next days!
Title: Re: WORDLE CPC
Post by: arnolde on 20:57, 01 March 22
Quote from: eto on 17:04, 01 March 22the screen switches directly back to the menu without showing the solution. 
That's strange. I can't really reproduce this issue... Are you running the game on original hardware or on an emulator? Are you using the latest dks file (uploaded yesterday morning)?
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