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Title: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 04:34, 19 August 13
These screens are the first experiments I have made with the ConvImgCPC, some seemed nice and I wanted to share with you ... :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 04:39, 19 August 13
Here's more ... for the screens I mainly used the mode 0 (16 colors) without dithering (except for the screen of R-Type). I know that they are not anything special, but I'll learn to be more clever ...  ;D
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 10:28, 19 August 13
Nice screens.

You could also try JavaCPC Paint ;)

It's an integrated app in JavaCPC Desktop and it's format is nearly ConvImgCPC compatible...

[attach=2][attach=3]

Supported image formats:
BMP
PNG
GIF
JPG
TGA
PCX
IFF
ILBM
SCR (ConvImgCPC format)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: redbox on 10:43, 19 August 13
The SF2 and Dragon Ninja (ingame) shots look pretty cool :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 11:52, 19 August 13
Thanks for your report, JavaCPC Desktop software is downloading, will try it later that I'm very curious... ;D

A technical question ... I converted several screens with ConvImgCPC (about 200 images), if I were to eventually create a executable file to be loaded directly on amstrad cpc (rolling demo) with these images, which program I could use?  :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: redbox on 12:20, 19 August 13
Quote from: Mr. DVG on 11:52, 19 August 13
A technical question ... I converted several screens with ConvImgCPC (about 200 images), if I were to eventually create a executable file to be loaded directly on amstrad cpc (rolling demo) with these images, which program I could use?  :)

Well a CPC screen is 16kb (or 17kb with a AMSDOS header) and a normal DSK is only 178kb per side (so only 10 pictures).

But you could use something like Exomizer to compress them and then display them as a sideshow.  If you need help doing this, let me know.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 12:32, 19 August 13
ahemmm ... I assume that I'll need a tutorial ... i'm a very noob! Exomizer in download! ;D
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: arnoldemu on 13:05, 19 August 13
I published some tools that can be used.

The tools need images in bmp file format (16 colours). You can then run the tools and it creates an executable file which you can run to view the image.

The tools support different screen modes and screen sizes and plus too.

I will find the zip and attach it here.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 13:11, 19 August 13
16k ConvImgCPC screens you can load in BASIC: LOAD"FILE.SCR",&C000:CALL &C7D0 -> the CALL sets the mode and palette
32k ConvImgCPC overscan screens you can load in BASIC: 10 OPENOUT"D":MEMORY &1FF:LOAD"FILE.SCR":CALL &811 -> the CALL sets mode, palette and CRTC registers.

For JavaCPC screens is the same rule but overscan is a bit different:
10 OPENOUT"D":MEMORY &1FF:LOAD"FILE.SCR":CALL &811:CALL &BB18:CALL &831 -> CALL &BB18: Wait for key, CALL &831: Reset the CRTC registers.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 19:48, 19 August 13
For the rolling demo I did a test with the basic listing kindly provided by "Devilmarkus", here is the simple code:

10 OPENOUT"D":MEMORY &1FF:LOAD"BLANKA.SCR":CALL &811
20 OPENOUT"D":MEMORY &1FF:LOAD"CAMMY.SCR":CALL &811
30 OPENOUT"D":MEMORY &1FF:LOAD"GUILE.SCR":CALL &811
40 OPENOUT"D":MEMORY &1FF:LOAD"CHUNLI.SCR":CALL &811
50 OPENOUT"D":MEMORY &1FF:LOAD"VEGA.SCR":CALL &811
60 GOTO 10

With WinApe I created a file "bas1.asm" I put all the files "SCR" and the file "BAS" within the program "ManageDsk" and I created the image of the floppy ...

Once the image is loaded I tried to run "bas1.asm" but the error message reported is as follows: "MEMORY FULL IN 10"

Where did I go wrong?  ::)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 19:55, 19 August 13
Do this:
10 OPENOUT"D":MEMORY &1FF:LOAD"BLANKA.SCR":CALL &811
20 LOAD"CAMMY.SCR":CALL &811
30 LOAD"GUILE.SCR":CALL &811
40 LOAD"CHUNLI.SCR":CALL &811
50 LOAD"VEGA.SCR":CALL &811
60 GOTO 10
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 20:45, 19 August 13
Thanks a lot, the new code works very well, the only thing that I can not let him make the slideshow is the continuous cycle, as the string "60 GOTO 10" sends the CPC in "MEMORY FULL" (indeed, it is not even compiled by WinApe when assembled the code in the file "bas1.asm") ... ???
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TotO on 22:00, 19 August 13
Use your mind... Try to understand what you write. :)
(you already got the answer)

5 OPENOUT"D":MEMORY &1FF
10 LOAD"BLANKA.SCR":CALL &811
20 LOAD"CAMMY.SCR":CALL &811
30 LOAD"GUILE.SCR":CALL &811
40 LOAD"CHUNLI.SCR":CALL &811
50 LOAD"VEGA.SCR":CALL &811
60 GOTO 10



Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 00:13, 20 August 13
or use:

10 OPENOUT"D":MEMORY &1FF
20 READ A$:IF A$="END" THEN RESTORE 40:GOTO 20
30 LOAD A$+".SCR":CALL &811:GOTO 20
40 DATA BLANKA,CAMMY,GUILE,CHUNLI,VEGA,END
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 01:51, 20 August 13
Ahahahahaha!  ;D It 's true, the worst thing is to copy things without understanding them, then when the solution is at hand ... I'm a little ashamed I admit, but now I have a valid code that can be used to the fullest, and expanded modified for the small rolling demo with images.

If you want to post more pictures with the file "dsk" including, using the BASIC code kindly suggested to you ...  ;)

P.S. - The last BASIC code was not able to this to work (string space full in 30), also filling in the BASIC code (working) with WinApe to get the code "bas.1" the program itself omit the line "60 goto 10" in fact this breaks the cycle of the sequence of the demo when running on emulator with the virtual floppy ... :(

However, really, I do not know how to thank you ... :D

I am attaching a copy of your diskette with the test carried out ...





Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 04:04, 20 August 13
Other screens... ;)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 13:51, 20 August 13
Interesting to see that the string space is full... Didn't check the program.

You could also use easier filenames:
1.scr,2.scr,...5.scr

Your program to load them now can me made MUCH shorter:

10 OPENOUT"d":MEMORY &1FF
20 FOR t=1 TO 5:LOAD MID$(STR$(t),2)+".scr":CALL &811:NEXT:GOTO 20


I'll attach an example disc.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TFM on 17:06, 20 August 13
The artwork disc is really nice. However it uses very few colors only (IMHO), so maybe MODE 1 would be an interesting alternative?  :)

Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 19:14, 20 August 13
Great! The last BASIC code works perfectly (as well as being easier to use).

Just as a side dish I added a CLS to clean the screen and a  BORDER 3,2 for a slow flashing screen (like-loading) during the execution of the demo ...

The slideshow is now perfect ... you are really great! : D

5 CLS
10 BORDER 3.2
20 OPENOUT "d": MEMORY & 1FF
30 FOR t = 1 TO 5: LOAD MID $ (STR $ (t), 2) + ". Scr": CALL & 811: NEXT: GOTO 30


Attached is the final test (artwork 3 is correct file)... :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 19:31, 20 August 13
Quote from: Mr. DVG on 19:14, 20 August 13
Great! The last BASIC code works perfectly (as well as being easier to use).

Just as a side dish I added a CLS to clean the screen and a  BORDER 3,2 for a slow flashing screen (like-loading) during the execution of the demo ...

The slideshow is now perfect ... you are really great! : D

5 CLS
10 BORDER 3.2
20 OPENOUT "d": MEMORY & 1FF
30 FOR t = 1 TO 5: LOAD MID $ (STR $ (t), 2) + ". Scr": CALL & 811: NEXT: GOTO 20


Attached is the final test...

Good.... But you should GOTO line 30 instead of 20 in your code ;)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 19:52, 20 August 13
Ahahahaha, it's true ... I corrected more ... thanks!  :D
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 00:39, 21 August 13
Other screen ripped by arcade games (in MODE 0 - zoomed)...  :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TotO on 09:43, 21 August 13
What is the goal to produce fake game screens, while it's not possible to handle them for true?
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: redbox on 09:59, 21 August 13
Double Dragon looks uber.

Is this a real MODE 0 screen?
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 11:59, 21 August 13
Yes redbox, the screenshots are in MODE 0 real, but I used the option "ConvImgCpc" that allows you to get the image zoomed slightly to increase a little more graphic detail (the images are cut because of the format "expanded" ).

Yes TotO, the goal was to produce the fake screenshots of games, but that graphically come close as possible to those arcade ... I do not think that you can handle the conversion of a game keeping all that detail ... ::)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 15:08, 21 August 13
Sad, that ConvImgCPC doesn't provide real ordered dithering...

I am trying to implement that into JavaCPC Paint but is not easy to solve...

Also the CPC+ palette is not very simple to calculate "on the fly" but I added a few good effects to define it easier.

2 screens:

Ordered Dithering:

[attach=2]

CPC Plus palette: (Some colours I defined manually)
[attach=3]

Dithering is not always the best choice but can be useful sometimes.


Original picture:
[attach=4]
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TFM on 15:23, 21 August 13
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 15:08, 21 August 13
Sad, that ConvImgCPC doesn't provide real ordered dithering...


I'm glad about that. Looks better IMHO.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 15:24, 21 August 13
Quote from: TFM on 15:23, 21 August 13

I'm glad about that. Looks better IMHO.

Depends on the picture.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 15:30, 21 August 13
Yes, I agree, some images are better suited to conversion! It is still a very good result.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: HAL6128 on 21:08, 21 August 13
Quote from: TFM on 17:06, 20 August 13
The artwork disc is really nice. However it uses very few colors only (IMHO), so maybe MODE 1 would be an interesting alternative?  :)
Yeah. A mode 1 picture would be a good alternative... . But it really depends on the original image. (...made with CPCPaint and full dithering.)
[attach=2]
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TFM on 00:53, 22 August 13
That's great!
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: AMSDOS on 07:38, 22 August 13
When I was playing around with CONVIMGCPC, by taking some photos & some computer art of mine and converting to CPC, I noticed there was an intensity slider which determine the Pixilation generated in the picture, which I thought was nifty for if you had surfaces to which you didn't want Dots appearing through it, though by the looks of your Pictures it looks like you've been playing around with that yourself.  :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 15:33, 22 August 13
Other screen (by Amiga Games)...  :)

Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 17:11, 22 August 13
Other screen ... again (by Amiga Games 2)...  (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/smiley.gif)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TFM on 17:48, 22 August 13
Ok guys, time to patch some CPC games with additional loading screens  :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 17:55, 22 August 13
Maybe ... If I were able I would gladly ... :laugh:
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 16:29, 25 August 13
Other screenshots from amiga games... :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 04:44, 31 August 13
New screenshots from Amiga games...  ;)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: SyX on 12:14, 31 August 13
You should take more care with things like the aspect ratio ;)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 12:09, 01 September 13
You're absolutely right Syx, but honestly I do not know how to do, I'm not a graph and give an regular aspect to the image correspond to a drastic decline in the quality of the image (use only the ConvImgCPC as a program) ...  ::)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: SyX on 13:38, 01 September 13
Don't worry Mr. DVG, nobody borns knowing about everything :)

The basic idea is to prepare the pictures before in your favourite paint program (setting CPC aspect ratio, palette -sometimes a simple posterize fx is enough-, size, ... and pixelize of course :) ), because everything you work there, it will help to get a better result with the ConvImgCPC or other tool that convert your picture to CPC format.

There is a few threads, for example this (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?topic=2913.0) or every post of MacDeath with likes (he knows well his graphics-fu), where the best graphicians in the forum explain their tricks. And in the cpcwiki itself, there is a few nice pages as this (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Creating_images_for_the_Amstrad) or that (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Video_modes). And if you can read french (or use google translator), i recommend you the page of Supersly (http://cpc.sylvestre.org/).

You can take inspiration too, of every thread with mockups as the Cananbalt thread (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?topic=2995.0) (We need this game people!!!) or galleries as TotO's gallery (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?topic=2926.0).

This forum and the wiki is a real CPC treasure, search and you will find everything you want, i promise. And maybe we should have a post with links to every interesting thread, but there is a LOT, jejeje.

Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 15:21, 01 September 13
Perfect, do not ask for anything better ... unfortunately in Italy the scene Amstrad is very poor, and of course the doubts and perplexities techniques are continuing at a rapid pace ... here I found a lot already and the people are very helpful, thanks for the link reporting ... I will try to translate everything and trying to learn as much as possible ... thank you very much to all! :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Gryzor on 17:48, 01 September 13
Hey, some lovely screens in here; you did a good job choosing the pics, the conversion seems to work very well!
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 01:16, 03 September 13
Thanks Gryz ...  :)

The choice of images obviously involves a bit of study so that the conversion is as painless as possible (black background, large images so they do not lose a lot of resolution etc, etc ...)!

I'm glad you like them, if you want to keep open this topic to publish any other work on the conversion!  :D
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 05:45, 06 September 13
Trials and study the zoom + diethering ... :D

16 colors - Mode 0 - Dith
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TFM on 16:33, 06 September 13
Nice pictures, but you could keep the aspect ratio better  :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Gryzor on 16:42, 07 September 13
Georgia Salpa!
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Bryce on 22:11, 07 September 13
Georgias curves need more than 64K :)

Bryce.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 02:45, 08 September 13
 ;D

Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 11:22, 08 September 13
Sorry, couldn't resist:

Attached georgia.zip:

Put onto a DSK, and load like other overscan screens.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: tastefulmrship on 11:23, 08 September 13
Quote from: TFM on 16:33, 06 September 13
Nice pictures, but you could keep the aspect ratio better  :)
@Mr DVG; As much as it pains me to agree with this... ... ... [person]... I have to agree that the aspect ratio needs to be correct. Don't get me wrong, the conversions you've done are great, but they are stretched.


Georgia Salpa, for example should look like this...
EDIT: Or how Devilmarkus did it above! ^_^
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 11:33, 08 September 13
Nice examples, Tasty!

I prefer Jordan Carver  8)


Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 11:35, 08 September 13
I understand!!!  :D

I'm only testing, but the next picture I will try to adjust them with the right aspect ratio, thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 11:38, 08 September 13
Good idea ;) (Keeping the aspect ratio)

BTW.: The MODE 1 screens I attached, are really in 4 colours only. I call the technic "Overpixel" ;)

I am trying to convert pictures like a color inkjet printer does:

Just by using 3 colours + black (Sadly we only have 4 colours, so I cannot use white)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 11:46, 08 September 13
For example, this is better in terms of the size?
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 11:48, 08 September 13
OOOPS!!!! Sorry for the bmp...  ???
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: tastefulmrship on 11:52, 08 September 13
Quote from: Mr. DVG on 11:46, 08 September 13
For example, this is better in terms of the size?
Spot on! Perfect!
Nice use of the CPCnorm palette, as well, it looks really impressive.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 11:57, 08 September 13
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 11:52, 08 September 13
Spot on! Perfect!
Nice use of the CPCnorm palette, as well, it looks really impressive.

Perfect, I'll make the next tests normalized with this aspect ...  ;)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Bryce on 13:26, 08 September 13
My CRTC just melted :D

Bryce.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 13:42, 08 September 13
Quote from: Bryce on 13:26, 08 September 13
My CRTC just melted :D

If it was only the CRTC what melted...
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 15:22, 08 September 13
Jordan Carver is...  :P

:D
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 16:23, 08 September 13
Other evidence for trying to keep the right aspect ratio ...
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Gryzor on 19:44, 08 September 13
I'm waiting for the next Nuts edition in scr format :D
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 16:00, 10 September 13
Another test screen...dithering, mode 1, mode 0, zoom and right aspect ratio...


Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 21:49, 10 September 13
Last for today ... Mode 0 - correct aspect ratio (no zoom) - 16 colors! :)

Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 18:19, 12 September 13
Another mix of pic... use of dithering, mode 0, mode 1, zoom and normal ratio... :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: tastefulmrship on 20:52, 13 September 13
Quote from: Mr. DVG on 18:19, 12 September 13
Another mix of pic... use of dithering, mode 0, mode 1, zoom and normal ratio... :)
Sir, is there any chance you could redo the Morrigan image in the correct ratio? It's another great conversion that would just look perfect slightly less stretched!

Ta muchly! ^_^
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 22:54, 13 September 13
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 20:52, 13 September 13
Sir, is there any chance you could redo the Morrigan image in the correct ratio? It's another great conversion that would just look perfect slightly less stretched!

Btw.: Is here anyone, who could do a scrolling image of 2 overscan pictures?

Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 00:39, 14 September 13
You should schedule a routine scrolling to move the image from top to bottom (with the buttons or the joystick) who knows how to do?  ;D

tastefulmrship: I'll try to convert the image of Morrigan with the right look, but it will not be well defined and detailed ....  ::)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: tastefulmrship on 17:05, 14 September 13
Quote from: Mr. DVG on 00:39, 14 September 13
tastefulmrship: I'll try to convert the image of Morrigan with the right look, but it will not be well defined and detailed ....  ::)
Unfortunately, that's the disadvantage of our MODE 0 (ie 192x272 pixels). All converted images will lose, at least, 50% of their detail... even when converting 384x272 images!

However, working with what I have (which is absolutely no talent and too much time on my hands) here's a crapo attempt at Morrigan.
(Again, it's not as good as Devilmarkus's double screen, but he's better than me, so...! ^_^)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 17:09, 14 September 13
Thats not true... You often put your manual pixels on your GFX. Thats much cooler than stupid converting JPGs from the internet... ;)

I just do some quick dirty conversions using JavaCPC Paint... No PhotoShop, no Gimp, no anything else...
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 17:52, 14 September 13
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 17:05, 14 September 13
Unfortunately, that's the disadvantage of our MODE 0 (ie 192x272 pixels). All converted images will lose, at least, 50% of their detail... even when converting 384x272 images!

However, working with what I have (which is absolutely no talent and too much time on my hands) here's a crapo attempt at Morrigan.
(Again, it's not as good as Devilmarkus's double screen, but he's better than me, so...! ^_^)


It is for this reason that sometimes I prefer the format "extended" ... very pretty screen Morrigan, so I also realized I had more or less, but it was not satisfactory at the level of graphical detail ...  ::)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: tastefulmrship on 18:53, 14 September 13
Quote from: Mr. DVG on 17:52, 14 September 13

It is for this reason that sometimes I prefer the format "extended" ... very pretty screen Morrigan, so I also realized I had more or less, but it was not satisfactory at the level of graphical detail ...  ::)
Quite right.

Seeing as these are mock-ups, there's no reason why we can't double the pixels to keep the aspect ratio... but we can "pretend" that this is a double-screen scrolling image on CPCnorm. (My 8-pixel l screen scroller wouldn't count here and I can't be bothered adapting someone else's 1-pixel scroller... so "pretend" it is! ^_^)



(Please DO NOT "like" this post if you were thinking of doing so... please "like" the original post above by Mr DVG. Ta muchly!)



EDIT: Actually, thinking of DARKSTALKERS... my favourite character was always that little mischievous feline! ^_^
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: tastefulmrship on 20:43, 14 September 13
Actually, looking into this ConvImgCPC a little further (and once again, top job Demoniak)... we don't need the CPC+ anymore.

Ra's famous Einstein image (from Arte by Sanity)... in CPC+ and ConvImgCPC CPCnorm palettes.
I have to say, really; who needs CPC+ now? ^_^
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 16:59, 15 September 13
I'm sorry, I just can not do without the zoom ...  ;D
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: rexbeng on 17:17, 15 September 13
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 20:43, 14 September 13I have to say, really; who needs CPC+ now? ^_^

Well, I know someone who'd take the oportunity and say 'I had told you so'  :-*

rb
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: arnoldemu on 17:28, 15 September 13
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 22:54, 13 September 13
Btw.: Is here anyone, who could do a scrolling image of 2 overscan pictures?
I worked out code that would do just that. Do these pictures share a palette?
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TFM on 19:54, 15 September 13
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 22:54, 13 September 13
Btw.: Is here anyone, who could do a scrolling image of 2 overscan pictures?


Why two, when you can use four of them ;-)




See here:


64 KB V-RAM Scroller Amstrad CPC6128 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3lqJ60pQr4#)





Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 19:56, 15 September 13
Quote from: arnoldemu on 17:28, 15 September 13
I worked out code that would do just that. Do these pictures share a palette?

Of course they share the same palette ;)

Need them as .SCR (Start: &200, length 32k) or is .PNG ok?
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 19:58, 15 September 13
Quote from: Mr. DVG on 16:59, 15 September 13
I'm sorry, I just can not do without the zoom ...  ;D

Then you are definitively using the wrong GFX app ;)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 17:49, 16 September 13
Testing the integrated flipscreen code of JavaCPC Paint:

When you create flipscreens with JavaCPC Paint, you can load the screens to &C000 and &4000 and do CALL &C7D0 to set mode and palette and then a CALL &E7D0 to flip both screens.

Result:

[attachimg=2]

(I took a screenshot with deinterlace filter active, of course on the real machine it flickers slightly, but it's not for CPC+!!!)

Sadly the flip routine only works properly on CRTC 0 type... :(

Here's the DSK file: (RUN"SMURF")
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: redbox on 22:25, 16 September 13
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 17:49, 16 September 13
Sadly the flip routine only works properly on CRTC 0

Lol, you sound like Vanity.

Codeurs francais sont les meilleurs, mais seulement si vous avez CRTC 0 ou 1. Autrement, les codeurs espagnols sont les meilleurs ;)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Mr. DVG on 04:58, 17 September 13
16 colors - Mode 0 - Dithering - No Zoom... ;D


Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TFM on 16:18, 17 September 13
Quote from: redbox on 22:25, 16 September 13
Lol, you sound like Vanity.

Codeurs francais sont les meilleurs, mais seulement si vous avez CRTC 0 ou 1. Autrement, les codeurs espagnols sont les meilleurs ;)


Aber mit den Deutsch-Österreichischen Codern können sie alle nicht mithalten, denn bei uns läuft's auf allen CRTCs - ist doch eh klar.  8)  Oiso Servus mitanander.  ;D
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: redbox on 16:34, 17 September 13
Ja, BASIC arbeiten auf allen CRTC :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TFM on 17:23, 17 September 13
Da bist Du ja auch der Experte  ;)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Bryce on 19:56, 17 September 13
Hör auf! Ihr seid beide Trolls!

Arrêt! Vous êtes les deux trolls!

Give it up! You're both trolls!

:D

Bryce.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TFM on 20:55, 17 September 13
You are just pissed off because we didn't write in Irish  :laugh:  And Redbox is surely a good programmer, maybe not only in BASIC though. His last game runs smooth and fluently. Now back to trolling: I didn't talk about the color schemes  8)  la la la  :-*
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: ZbyniuR on 05:26, 28 May 15

Some result of my playing by ConvImgCPC. Over 40 pictures. Start by  run"0   
For start pictures are changing every 8 second. Any key stop slideshow and now waiting for any key. Key {S} return to slideshow.
Some example beneath. Give me sign which pictures you like it. :)


Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Ast on 09:18, 28 May 15
it seems fine... Cpc Old or Cpc Plus ?
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: CraigsBar on 10:03, 28 May 15
Quote from: Ast on 09:18, 28 May 15
it seems fine... Cpc Old or Cpc Plus ?
I would guess plus.... But the i noticed the yellow skin so perhaps CPC.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Carnivius on 10:29, 28 May 15
Looks like regular CPC to me.  But if it looks like it's Plus to anyone then that just shows off the versatility of the original CPC palette.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: ZbyniuR on 13:00, 28 May 15
All these pictures are made for old CPC standard palette.
The only trick is dithering. :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Ast on 09:32, 29 May 15
What do you think about making the same pictures in fullscreen ? That would be crazyyyyyyyyyy !
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: ZbyniuR on 12:12, 29 May 15
It's true that fullscreens make better impression, but two things that discourage me.
1. On ordinary disk fits only 5 fullscreen, and simple pictures 3 times more.
2. Sometimes I correct pixels in ArtStudio, but I don't have convenient tool for fullscreens.

I don't know popular format to compresses fullscreens. Mass storage is still a rarity. Even DD disk drive not everyone has. But yeah, I think about it. ;)

I think more about writing a better image browser for CPC. Which itself recognizes what kind images are on disk and can display: CSI, SCR compressed and 17K without PAL, and fullscreens. And that allows you to switch between slideshow and select individual files by arrow keys. :)

No rush, only 5 persons took DSK in ZIPs from previous page. ;)

Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: CraigsBar on 13:52, 29 May 15
I sm going to investigate how to display a converted overscan image later. My chuckie egg cart would benefit from overscan.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: ZbyniuR on 05:18, 01 June 15
To display Fullscreen 32K type:

10 OPENOUT"d":MEMORY &1FF:LOAD"name.scr":CALL &811

Unfortunate with compressed version of this files, such method doesn't work. :(
So low start address left space for only one line of Basic. :(

I have to find way to put fullscreen on end of block &0000-&7FFF, so it should left few KB for Basic. And I need some way to compress overscans, to hold 10 fullscreen on 178K dsk.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: CraigsBar on 09:06, 01 June 15
Quote from: ZbyniuR on 05:18, 01 June 15
To display Fullscreen 32K type:

10 OPENOUT"d":MEMORY &1FF:LOAD"name.scr":CALL &811

Unfortunate with compressed version of this files, such method doesn't work. :(
So low start address left space for only one line of Basic. :(

I have to find way to put fullscreen on end of block &0000-&7FFF, so it should left few KB for Basic. And I need some way to compress overscans, to hold 10 fullscreen on 178K dsk.
I tried that. It would work once, and then corrupt the scr file and never work again. The compressed version works fine however and my chuckie egg cart has a lovely overscan plus palette loading screen followed by the game. All working perfectly except.... It's not gx4000 friendly because the screen needs space to be pressed to close it. I cannot as if yet find how to remap this to fire or a timer.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Gryzor on 17:38, 07 June 15
Well, been a while since we last saw Georgia Salpa...
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: ZbyniuR on 06:22, 22 July 15
Ast asked me about FullScreens...
Here you are. Five DSK with 5 pictures on each.   run"0   I hope you like it. :)

I have more, and it's sooo hard to choose. I still don't have method to put more Overscans on DSK. I'm quite busy, and lazy to figure out this.
But next time maybe I show you some pictures from Atari 8bit scene. Most of them are 160x240 in 32 colors from 256 palette, wide pixels like Mode 0. They look good in Plus palette, but not so ease to find right colors on old CPC. ;)

Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Ast on 07:40, 22 July 15
Work is done, fine !  :D
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: CraigsBar on 09:38, 22 July 15
Quote from: ZbyniuR on 06:22, 22 July 15
Ast asked me about FullScreens...
Here you are. Five DSK with 5 pictures on each.   run"0   I hope you like it. :)

I have more, and it's sooo hard to choose. I still don't have method to put more Overscans on DSK. I'm quite busy, and lazy to figure out this.
But next time maybe I show you some pictures from Atari 8bit scene. Most of them are 160x240 in 32 colors from 256 palette, wide pixels like Mode 0. They look good in Plus palette, but not so ease to find right colors on old CPC. ;)
Gorgeous pictures. The coke makes me thirsty lol.(http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji3.png)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: ZbyniuR on 18:43, 22 July 15
I'm glad someone like it. :)
But as I see only 2 persons download zip with 5 dsk.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TFM on 19:40, 22 July 15
Quote from: ZbyniuR on 18:43, 22 July 15
I'm glad someone like it. :)
But as I see only 2 persons download zip with 5 dsk.


Yes, because you posted the pictures already.  ;D  It's like ... ok, I've seen them. They are GREAT, but I've seen them now. Actually I thought about putting them all crunched on a Vortex format Disc, but... I've seen them now.  :)  Nevertheless they are awesome!  :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: mr_lou on 19:47, 22 July 15
Agreed. Awesome pictures.
But too much hazzle to download the disk files / too lazy.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: ZbyniuR on 21:18, 22 July 15
I posted only 9 of 25, just enough to tempting. Probably not each are equal good. :D
@TFM (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=179) - If you want put some or all this pictures on other disk, don't hesitate.

I need some better way to squeeze more FullScr on disk, I suppose should be possible least 9 on 178K.
And I need better way to display, to leave least 1KB for Basic program. And made some slide show like I did with CSI files in my post 88 in this topic on page 6. :)


Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: TFM on 21:28, 22 July 15
Donloaded! And I don't regret.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: remax on 21:38, 22 July 15
Quote from: ZbyniuR on 18:43, 22 July 15
I'm glad someone like it. :)
But as I see only 2 persons download zip with 5 dsk.

I'm one of the two :p

I had to see them on a real CPC :-D

Yesterday, i was saying to myself that i needed a slideshow to watch on the CPC.
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Joseman on 22:25, 22 July 15
Quote from: ZbyniuR on 18:43, 22 July 15
I'm glad someone like it. :)
But as I see only 2 persons download zip with 5 dsk.

I have no time to see the pics on the real deal this 2 months.

The pics are AWESOME.

When i have JustCPC working... i will take a look!
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: Devilmarkus on 22:36, 22 July 15
Nice pics!

Quote from: ZbyniuR on 21:18, 22 July 15
And I need better way to display, to leave least 1KB for Basic program. And made some slide show like I did with CSI files in my post 88 in this topic on page 6. :)

Why don't you just name your SCR files like 1.SCR,2.SCR,3.SCR etc...?
Then you can put your load routine into 1 single BASIC line...

Example for 20 SCR files:
10 OPENOUT"d":MEMORY &1FF:FOR k=1 TO 20:a$=MID$(STR$(k),2):LOAD a$+".scr":CALL &811:NEXT
Title: Re: First tests using the ConvImgCPC + minor adjustments graphics ... :)
Post by: ZbyniuR on 22:54, 25 July 15
Markus - I thought about similar way, but it doesn't give me what I want.
I have other idea which I have to check. ;)
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