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Title: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: JimmyChan2022 on 16:36, 03 July 22
Im going to say C64, it has the speed, more colors than Speccy, best sound imo, and scrolls well.

I love 464, but I think if someone had asked me out of the 3, (Speccy, C64, 464) would have to recommend C64.
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: Gryzor on 17:54, 03 July 22
What are the criteria for the "best"? 
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: eto on 00:32, 04 July 22
What means "all around"?

If it's about games, yes of course, the C64 will win. But as soon as we look into homework, semi-professional use, programming, user friendliness,... I would say that the CPC becomes the better choice. Whatever category you'll come up with, the CPC will probably not win a single one, but it will be "good" in every category. Most other 8bits will have at least one "bad" category, so it does not qualify for "all around".

Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: Gryzor on 08:20, 04 July 22
It's a question with no answer. I know people who wrote their PhD thesis on a cpc. Others that used to run stores on one. For them, of course, not only was the CPC the best option, but arguably the only one. 
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: ComSoft6128 on 08:35, 04 July 22
Slightly off-topic but the 6128 was used as a "PC" long before the IBM PC (and clones) were affordable for most home users.
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: Gryzor on 09:29, 04 July 22
Not at all off topic, that's the thing. With its 80-column mode and CP/M it could do stuff others couldn't do, not just better.
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: reidrac on 10:40, 04 July 22
I would go with a MSX2+. Z80 (it is 8-bit), V9958 Video Display Processor with 128K of VRAM (which makes the base 64K RAM last!), YM2149 + YM2413 for audio, MSX cartridges + 720kB 3.5" floppy disks, built for the Japanese market so good keyboard, etc.

Say a Sony HB-F1XV.

Oh, well. An MSX2 (not plus) would be also fine (not sure how many games used the extra bit of the plus). There are plenty of models to choose from, and those were available in Europe as well.

All is relative though. Not sure there's "the best all around". For a lot of people, the CPC 6128 was it.
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: Bryce on 11:42, 04 July 22
Quote from: JimmyChan2022 on 16:36, 03 July 22Im going to say C64, it has the speed, more colors than Speccy, best sound imo, and scrolls well.

I love 464, but I think if someone had asked me out of the 3, (Speccy, C64, 464) would have to recommend C64.


Yeah sure, let me know when that disk software has loaded on the C64... The 464 tapedeck was almost faster! :D

Bryce.
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: Prodatron on 11:55, 04 July 22
Quote from: reidrac on 10:40, 04 July 22I would go with a MSX2+..
I agree, the CPC will stay my favourite 8bit forever, but if I had to choose for the most powerful one, which is not "too young" (not later than mid 80ies), I would choose the MSX2 with all it's features, power and clean designed architecture.


Quote from: Gryzor on 08:20, 04 July 22I know people who wrote their PhD thesis on a cpc. Others that used to run stores on one.

And others even used it on the Space Station (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7ZdFeKrfss) ;D  (a Sony MSX2)
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: abalore on 12:26, 04 July 22
SAM Coupé
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: Gryzor on 13:36, 04 July 22
Quote from: abalore on 12:26, 04 July 22SAM Coupé
With what software? 
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: abalore on 14:41, 04 July 22
Quote from: Gryzor on 13:36, 04 July 22
Quote from: abalore on 12:26, 04 July 22SAM Coupé
With what software?

The games that could be done for it.
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: asertus on 15:00, 04 July 22
Well, I'd go to the 6128 plus, this is the one I use the most in recent times, with M4, but, actually, what I like about that 8bit computers is how diverse they were, different characteristics, and different strengths. Even the Spectrum had its charm in its simplicity.. 

And not forget about niche ones.., FM-7, Enterprise, the Atari 8bit were also amazing, etc...
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: Sykobee (Briggsy) on 18:02, 04 July 22
Assumptions:
All Rounder: Games and Business and Education
Years: 80s
Price: Reasonable
Sales: At least moderate success

All Rounder after setting the criteria appropriately - CPC of course (American's might argue for the Apple II)

Adding on modern additions, I think it would still be the CPC, although those large cart C64 games are impressive.
Title: Re: If you had to choose 1, 8 bit micro as the best all around?
Post by: lmimmfn on 02:21, 05 July 22
This is a strange question,  I'm a professional software developer, doing do for 24 years, and i owe that to the CPC464.
I learnt to program on the CPC because the basic was fantastic( apparently the BBC was as good but they were far too expensive in my time).
I even discovered how binary worked from the cpc manual and symbol after commands(even more fun when switching mode 1 to mode 0 addressing).

The basic on the c64 was just know substituting pokes for functionality. The 48k spectrum was a waste of time due to the keyboard.
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