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The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« on: 18:12, 18 January 10 »
This is where I'll be updating you guys with the progress of the book thus far... currently it's around 30% complete, I have already completed the book cover, along with many articles including the CPC intro and history. Please pledge your support for the upcoming book, and remember all I wanna do is break even... not make a profit. I'm thinking of only making ten full colour books available.

I think the PDF is more likely to be around £3-5 - It all boils down to what amazon and Lulu charge.

FYI - The book will also cover Speccy, Atari XL, BBC and Commodore content... but is primarily written for users of the Amstrad CPC, with the other machines used for reference and comparisons. 

So Far:

Book cover - 100%
Intro - 100%
Begineers guide - 100%
Alan sugar
Amstrad CPC 464 history - 100%
Amstrad CPC 664 history - 40%
Amstrad CPC 6128 history - 90%
Magazines
Public domain
Top 100 1984 - 30%
Top 100 1985 - 5%
Top 100 1986
Top 100 1987
Top 100 1988
Top 100 1989
Top 100 1990
Top 100 1991
Top 100 1992
Interviews
DIY
Worst games on the CPC
Bloodiest games on the CPC 40%
The CPC can scroll - 90%
Speccy Ports
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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #1 on: 18:40, 18 January 10 »
While I would get the Full Colour version, the PDF will be the most popular choice for many buyers.
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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #2 on: 18:54, 18 January 10 »
While I would get the Full Colour version, the PDF will be the most popular choice for many buyers.

I would like to buy 2 copies of the full color version (One for myself and one for a friend of mine, very much into CPC).. But I think Nreive is right the PDF version would be a popular choice by many!!

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #3 on: 18:55, 18 January 10 »
For sure, and hopefully that's what will happen. Although owning the book in full colour will be very desirable, as only a few will ever own it.

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #4 on: 14:04, 21 January 10 »
Hm.... nothing beats the smell of paper in your hands (ok, so I can think of some alternatives, but let's just keep it on topic! :D ).

I'd say you could offer the pdf only some time after the print edition comes out...

How much would a smaller colour version cost?

PS I stickied the topic, let's also add it to the wiki's homepage. But you should change the topic's title if you'll be reporting on the progress here, since it'll not be a mere poll...

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #5 on: 14:06, 21 January 10 »
Hi

I don't think 20-25£ is too much, anyway that's what they charge for a book of this size here in DK!!

If prize is of essence (which is suspect it is) what about a mixed color/BW edition like seen in some pages in old computer mags(Eg. Amtix). Can the printing company do this? And would that affect the price? (make it cheaper)

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This is where I'll be updating you guys with the progress of the book thus far... currently it's around 30% complete, I have already completed the book cover, along with many articles including the CPC intro and history. Please pledge your support for the upcoming book, and remember all I wanna do is break even... not make a profit. I'm thinking of only making ten full colour books available.

I think the PDF is more likely to be around £3-5 - It all boils down to what amazon and Lulu charge.

FYI - The book will also cover Speccy, Atari XL, BBC and Commodore content... but is primarily written for users of the Amstrad CPC, with the other machines used for reference and comparisons. 

So Far:

Book cover - 100%
Intro - 100%
Begineers guide - 100%
Alan sugar
Amstrad CPC 464 history - 100%
Amstrad CPC 664 history - 40%
Amstrad CPC 6128 history - 90%
Magazines
Public domain
Top 100 1984 - 30%
Top 100 1985 - 5%
Top 100 1986
Top 100 1987
Top 100 1988
Top 100 1989
Top 100 1990
Top 100 1991
Top 100 1992
Interviews
DIY
Worst games on the CPC
Bloodiest games on the CPC 40%
The CPC can scroll - 90%
Speccy Ports

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #6 on: 14:12, 21 January 10 »
Ygdrazil, maybe this is not too much for us (I'd pay double that!), but it may be too much for others. For instance, there are those lovely Speccy/c64 books out there but I'm not touching them because of the price - I'm simply not THAT interested...

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #7 on: 14:37, 21 January 10 »
Heh ...

I see what you mean!!

Well then back to the idea

A limited edition in full color, and the PDF version!

Could this be done :-)

/Ygdrazil

PS. I am really looking forward to the book in any form it might come!

Ygdrazil, maybe this is not too much for us (I'd pay double that!), but it may be too much for others. For instance, there are those lovely Speccy/c64 books out there but I'm not touching them because of the price - I'm simply not THAT interested...
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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #8 on: 16:08, 21 January 10 »
I already own the printed version of the Amstrad Action Tribute Magazine and paid nearly 25 EUR for the magazine, so I wouldn't mind to pay that or little more for the CPC book, too. The CPC is my hobby and there is not much to buy these days, so why not spend some bucks for your hobby ;-)?
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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #9 on: 16:52, 21 January 10 »
I spoke with LuLu and a few others, and they aren't interested in doing a mixed B/W & Colour book... it's B/W or colour only :-[

I really wanted the book to be cheaper, as I were hoping for around 350 pages, but that would have bumped the cost up massively. Instead I've planned to release a Vol2 if Vol1 does ok. Again, I just need to tread water, and hopefully not make too much of a loss.

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #10 on: 17:37, 21 January 10 »
What's the minimum order qty for Lulu?

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #11 on: 01:26, 22 January 10 »
What's the minimum order qty for Lulu?

Not sure... I'll have to check

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #12 on: 12:02, 22 January 10 »
I spoke with LuLu and a few others, and they aren't interested in doing a mixed B/W & Colour book... it's B/W or colour only :-

I really wanted the book to be cheaper, as I were hoping for around 350 pages, but that would have bumped the cost up massively. Instead I've planned to release a Vol2 if Vol1 does ok. Again, I just need to tread water, and hopefully not make too much of a loss.
Yeah, it's B&W or Colour at Lulu.com and as we know a full colour book is expensive to publish at Lulu.com

I don't see how you would make a loss, certainly no worse than break even, unless you're going to ask for an order requirement and sell them on.  if you're going to do this, you could bump up the cost of the PDF version to cover any shortfall from the printed version.

Have you considered approaching Hiive Books ? (http://www.hiivebooks.com/).  They have no CPC book planned and may be interested in publishing your book.

What's the minimum order qty for Lulu?
There is no minimum order requirement at Lulu.com: buy as many or as little as you want.  When we did the AA tribute mag, it was done on a print-on-demand basis.  This meant that customers would purchase the book and it would be printed there and then and sent out - no upfront cost to buy a certain amount of copies (which to sell on) and no financial loss.

For instance, there are those lovely Speccy/c64 books out there but I'm not touching them because of the price - I'm simply not THAT interested...
BTW, The ZX Spectrum Book - 1982 to 199x by Andrew Rollings is now available as a free PDF download: http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=2000926
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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #13 on: 12:33, 22 January 10 »
Ok, this is what I was wondering... if there's no minimum qty then there should be no financial risk...?

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #14 on: 12:56, 22 January 10 »
Just had a guick browse in the ZX Spectrum Book. Well I am not particular into Sinclairs line of computers, even though my first Z80 computer was a bamboo clone of the ZX81. It's graphically pretty, but it would have been nice with more background info and stuff besides endless game reviews. In this respect I think the proposed contents for the CPC book sounds much more interesting..

A bit like the C64 book which I liked, the book I mean as I am even less in C64's!

Cant wait for the CPC book!

/Ygdrazil

BTW, The ZX Spectrum Book - 1982 to 199x by Andrew Rollings is now available as a free PDF download: http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=2000926

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #15 on: 14:45, 22 January 10 »
I agree - I'm not too fond of books only featuring games reviews. Well, especially when it comes down to our CPC, for which there's little coverage in other publications...

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #16 on: 02:17, 23 January 10 »
I spoke with Hive books a while ago, but they were not convinced a CPC book would be worth the trouble. So I'm basically on my own. The Book of Arnold will be about 20% techy, 20% History and 50% games... with 10% coverage of the other popular 8-bit systems.

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #17 on: 12:30, 25 January 10 »
I think this is a great balance... As long as the "other systems" is discussed under their relation to the CPC...

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #18 on: 01:52, 28 January 10 »
Good news! Richard Clayton, the chap behind Locomotive has agreed to do an interview for the upcoming book. He has also agreed to do the preface at the begining of the book. I felt it was important for either Roland Perry or Richard to do this, and lets face it without the locomotive basic, the CPC just wouldn't have been the same machine, or worse; never existed.

Rest assured, a Roland Perry interview will hopefully feature, but towards the end i.e. in closing.

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #19 on: 02:07, 28 January 10 »
Thats great. Info on the arnold 2 please

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #20 on: 09:33, 28 January 10 »
Yeah great news!

More info on the ANT!!!

/Ygdrazil

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #21 on: 10:37, 28 January 10 »
Hahaha! And here I was, trying to find his address to drill him about those prototypes... :)

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #22 on: 11:30, 28 January 10 »
Is it possible you could video this meeting, rather than the seemingly usual email exchange. That would be fun

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #23 on: 11:37, 28 January 10 »
Is it possible you could video this meeting, rather than the seemingly usual email exchange. That would be fun

Oooh now there's an idea!!!!! :)

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Re: The 'book of Arnold' Poll
« Reply #24 on: 12:13, 28 January 10 »
Probably... but I'd prefer a pod cast if I were to do it. Don't like the idea of my ugly mug being seen across the internet.