This isn't my cup of tea, but...

[Shaun M. Neary]

@Shaun M. Neary : edited your second post, deleted your first; you probably didn't read what I wrote in detail :p


A ban is only positive in a very few cases. I've permabanned a couple of users here where the negative of the ban negated the negativity they brought, resulting in... erm, where was I? Oh yes, it was positive in those cases. But, right now, what else could I do? Yeah, "he just needs to tone it down", if you know of any other way to accomplish this, please share. I'm genuinely interested in it.

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't getting on your case about it (I'd like to think you know me better than that to be honest). I dunno, like a three strike rule/warning system or something like that where if someone is being repeatedly rude to forum posters or repeated trolling, then temporary ban, then permanent ban etc. I know forums I used to mod in the past that used vbulletin had a warning/infraction system that could be used and mods could see it in the users profile. Not sure how SMF works though.

Don't mean to back seat mod, just bandying about a suggestion or so.

To be fair, most of the time I really cross paths with TFM, but if he pokes me with a sharp stick, I will poke back.

[Gryzor]

Oh, we've been through the incremental penalties, believe you me First warning, second warning, post moderation, ban for one week, ban for two weeks, ban for a month... and yet here we are.


And of course suggestions are always welcome.


The way things are looking, what with TFM bashing our community every chance he gets when he gets penalised, however (like he did in his sig an hour ago) I'm this close to a permaban. It'd be a pity, but heck, I'm proud of this community I've helped build and I feel I've got the right to get personal and sentimental at some point.


Oh, as for censoring language: of course kids can visit this forum, as they can visit any porn site out there. I'm not going to impose limits within the boundaries of normal adult behavior to accommodate them though. That's indeed up to their parents. And by that, I mean and firmly believe that normal adult behavior is fine for kids too. I will step in (I believe I have, in a very few cases) when language can be extreme without real purpose, or remove gratuitous asses for instance, but that's it. Pixel asses are fine. I think.

[Shaun M. Neary]

Oh, we've been through the incremental penalties, believe you me First warning, second warning, post moderation, ban for one week, ban for two weeks, ban for a month... and yet here we are.

I'm kinda glad I'm retired from forum modding. As mentioned earlier, it is indeed a thankless job in a lot of cases, on top of that the amount of stress induction is ridiculous!

The way things are looking, what with TFM bashing our community every chance he gets when he gets penalised, however (like he did in his sig an hour ago) I'm this close to a permaban. It'd be a pity, but heck, I'm proud of this community I've helped build and I feel I've got the right to get personal and sentimental at some point.

I actually didn't see what he wrote. I tend to only view the Games section of the forum as I know bugger all about hardware, and that end of things doesn't update so frequently. I can only imagine his air of sarcasm as a final dig though.

Oh, as for censoring language: of course kids can visit this forum, as they can visit any porn site out there. I'm not going to impose limits within the boundaries of normal adult behavior to accommodate them though. That's indeed up to their parents. And by that, I mean and firmly believe that normal adult behavior is fine for kids too. I will step in (I believe I have, in a very few cases) when language can be extreme without real purpose, or remove gratuitous asses for instance, but that's it. Pixel asses are fine. I think.

Well this is it, a bit of strong language can often help to get the point across. That being said, if someone is being abusive 24/7 using it, then not cool.

[EgoTrip]

Good to see him banned again. I stayed out of it, until I screwed up with the PM to Gryzor and put his name in the wrong box But I did think it was a bit more peaceful on here today.

I doubt TFM will ever learn his lesson.

[AMSDOS]

I know, but I suspect the worse thing to do in this type of situation, it to publicly single someone out, and hang them out to dry in front of everyone. It's not good for the individual, or other members of the forum.

Well they can ban me, so I can be more productive. 


I suspect TFM wants the ban for the same reasons?

[Gryzor]

Ok, guys, some of you have been using the Shoutbox to express yourselves in a rather... more lax way. Please understand that the Shoutbox falls under the same general rules the whole site does. Insulting others there not only puts me in a very difficult position when TFM (rightly so) reports those posts but is a sneaky thing to do, to. Please don't make me have to moderate that, too.

[Bryce]

Well they can ban me, so I can be more productive. 


I suspect TFM wants the ban for the same reasons?

Sign up to the ISP I use and you'll find you spend much less time on the internet than others! 

Bryce.

[Gryzor]

Dial up ftw?

[Bryce]

No, DSL, fast when it's working!

Bryce.

[Munchausen]

Well this is it, a bit of strong language can often help to get the point across. That being said, if someone is being abusive 24/7 using it, then not cool.

I actually agree with this, sorry I singled out your post. You probably had a valid point, I didn't read the whole thread but when I saw your post I just thought this is getting out of hand. I didn't report your post because it wasn't yours in particular that was bad, and I didn't actually have an opinion on your message, so in isolation I probably would have thought nothing of it - just the thread as a whole looked like it would give visitors a bad impression of the site. Next time I'm just going to let the mods (well that's just Gryzor I think :S) deal with this sort of thing!

[ukmarkh]

That's a good question, who are the mods?


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[ukmarkh]

I'm frightened to review any of these new games now...


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[Shaun M. Neary]

I actually agree with this, sorry I singled out your post. You probably had a valid point, I didn't read the whole thread but when I saw your post I just thought this is getting out of hand. I didn't report your post because it wasn't yours in particular that was bad, and I didn't actually have an opinion on your message, so in isolation I probably would have thought nothing of it - just the thread as a whole looked like it would give visitors a bad impression of the site. Next time I'm just going to let the mods (well that's just Gryzor I think :S) deal with this sort of thing!

I think a lot of people had their fill of that thread at that stage, including yours truly.

[TFM]

... and therefore I will withdraw my attention, efforts and support from CPCWiki and its forum.


My future presence here will be minor. I'm not going in a discussion about it here, but you can PM, email me or contact me in the German forum (of course also in English and French or Spanish since we are world open).


Now, I hope that this place will flourish without me - we will see. Adjeu, TFM.

[ukmarkh]

Tis a sad day... All the best

[Shaun M. Neary]

Now, I hope that this place will flourish without me - we will see. Adjeu, TFM.

I'm sure it will. Not that you actually have to leave, but leopards can't change their spots I guess.

[SRS]

 

[VincentGR]

oh 

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Too bad that arguments happen 

[FloppySoftware]

Adjeu, TFM.

I won't try to change your mind, but I think it's the wrong decission.

You have interesting things to tell us; it's simply a matter of make a good choice of the words you use.

As a little example, some weeks ago I was wondering about a port of MESCC for FutureOS. But then, you started to say ugly things about MESCC... resulting in a lost opportunity.

[tastefulmrship]

A pointless post for a pointless thread... but now with added groin-thrust!

[MacDeath]

Finally the french scene / community seems peacefull now...



lets put some soft music to silence the tensions.

[AMSDOS]

Bad Language is pretty much everywhere (not just Internet), but I wouldn't condone death, simply to rid yourself of it.


Off-Topic, but what does one suggest for a compulsive Bad Language Artist?