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MEDL Tracking Ball - very slow

Started by FruityFrank, 16:41, 28 April 25

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FruityFrank

Hello,
I got a MEDL trackball here. And while it works in general, its very slow. I cleaned it up but dirt wasn't the issue. 
Even when I directly turn the optical encoders, its very slow sending the keys. It 'feels' like the electronics cannot keep up with pulses from the sensor. 
Is this a known problem or is there a way to fix it? I played around with the adjustment pods but couldnt improve it.


pelrun

Is that purely connected via the joystick port? The CPC doesn't provide 5v on that port, unlike on most other computers which use the same connector. You might just need to power it separately.

andycadley

Is it even meant to be CPC compatible?

A brief search online only seems to find references to the BBC and Acorn systems. And it's worth bearing in mind that "Atari standard" joystick ports were anything but standard: once you go beyond a basic, single fire, digital joystick compatibility is far from guaranteed. Some provided analogue pins, some provide a +5V line etc. Even if they don't require those, devices may need specific software support to work as intended, you can't necessarily assume they can be seemlessly substituted for a digital joystick.

FruityFrank

Quote from: pelrun on Yesterday at 06:09Is that purely connected via the joystick port? The CPC doesn't provide 5v on that port, unlike on most other computers which use the same connector. You might just need to power it separately.
It has 5v input, its daisy chained to the CPC 5v input.

FruityFrank

Quote from: andycadley on Yesterday at 07:54Is it even meant to be CPC compatible?

A brief search online only seems to find references to the BBC and Acorn systems. And it's worth bearing in mind that "Atari standard" joystick ports were anything but standard: once you go beyond a basic, single fire, digital joystick compatibility is far from guaranteed. Some provided analogue pins, some provide a +5V line etc. Even if they don't require those, devices may need specific software support to work as intended, you can't necessarily assume they can be seemlessly substituted for a digital joystick.
I think its supported. It was featured in an Amstrad magazine back in the days:
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Prodatron

Quote from: FruityFrank on Yesterday at 13:56
Quote from: andycadley on Yesterday at 07:54Is it even meant to be CPC compatible?
I think its supported. It was featured in an Amstrad magazine back in the days:
cpcrulez.fr

Weeske sold it for the CPC since around 9/1988, it was (first) called "Marconi RB2" and bundled with the software "Easi-Art" by Microdraw. They still advertised it in the last issue of the german CPCAI magazine end of 1992.

Before 9/1988 Weeske sold a version only for the "Schneider PC".

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Prodatron

Quote from: FruityFrank on 16:41, 28 April 25I got a MEDL trackball here. And while it works in general, its very slow. I cleaned it up but dirt wasn't the issue.
Even when I directly turn the optical encoders, its very slow sending the keys.
Did you test it with the Easi-Art software? Maybe it has to be polled very fast to give a useful output.

GRAPHICAL Z80 MULTITASKING OPERATING SYSTEM

FruityFrank

Quote from: Prodatron on Yesterday at 16:44
Quote from: FruityFrank on 16:41, 28 April 25I got a MEDL trackball here. And while it works in general, its very slow. I cleaned it up but dirt wasn't the issue.
Even when I directly turn the optical encoders, its very slow sending the keys.
Did you test it with the Easi-Art software? Maybe it has to be polled very fast to give a useful output.
not yet, but will give it a try tomorrow. I wanted to use the Trackball in SymbOS :) 

GUNHED

Quote from: FruityFrank on 16:41, 28 April 25Hello,
I got a MEDL trackball here. And while it works in general, its very slow. I cleaned it up but dirt wasn't the issue.
Even when I directly turn the optical encoders, its very slow sending the keys. It 'feels' like the electronics cannot keep up with pulses from the sensor.
Is this a known problem or is there a way to fix it? I played around with the adjustment pods but couldn't improve it.
Hi there, that's a great expansion. Actually I use it too from time to time.
The software needs to be compatible to the trackball. It's the same for the AMX mouse. Use the designated software and you will like it very much.  :) :) :)
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