Chase HQ2 on youtube

[steve]

I was looking at GX4000.CO.UK - The site for the Amstrad GX4000 console! Welcome... and saw the news that there was a video showing the cartridge running on a 6128PLUS here Amstrad GX4000 Chase HQ 2: Special Criminal Investigation

[Gryzor]

Yeah... also notice the user name

[steve]

What about the user name?

[TotO]

The user asked to remove the embedded youtube link, so it's not possible to watch the video on other place than his youtube post, where he disabled the comments too.

For me, you will never get a dump, because he his not enough intelligent to understand that his cartridge will never lose its value. ROM or not to save the content.


So, he can die with, if it not die before him... 

[TFM]

Maybe he wants to create a myth about this cart game (which is in fact not soooo good).

But - hey - they didn't sell only one copy of the game, right? Next time I'm back in EU I have to check out some landfills - maybe I will find the other copy there

[Gryzor]

What about the user name?

"TheOppositeOfJesus". Jesus6128 is (was, not the username has been changed I think) a spanish eBay user that pays insane prices for CPC gear, hoarding rare stuff away. TheOppositeOfJesus would probably suggest that this owner wouldn't want to just hoard it, but then again what do I know... certainly not much about scene politics.

[MaV]

TheOppositeOfJesus would probably suggest that this owner wouldn't want to just hoard it, but then again what do I know... certainly not much about scene politics.

The way he did this video suggests that he's doing his best to follow into the footsteps of Jesus6128.

Does anyone care about a badly done video of that game? I know I don't. I suggest we call Chase H.Q. II a legend until one of the supposedly two cartridges is finally backed-up for the common good. Video or not, it might as well just not exist.

[arnoldemu]

"TheOppositeOfJesus". Jesus6128 is (was, not the username has been changed I think) a spanish eBay user that pays insane prices for CPC gear, hoarding rare stuff away. TheOppositeOfJesus would probably suggest that this owner wouldn't want to just hoard it, but then again what do I know... certainly not much about scene politics.

I know "Jesus6128" payed crazy prices, but I don't believe it was hoarded away so that nobody could access it.

[McKlain]

So, he has one of the few copies of a game for a console that sold poorly. Also the game looks like shit. Congratulations.


Anyway, I don't think that there were only 2 copies of the game produced (full package, cartridge, industrial duplication... makes no sense, at least to me), so the thing is where is the rest of the batch of this game.

[TotO]

I you really want CHASE HQ II on your CPC+, better to do the port from the arcade version and really enjoy it.

[MaV]

@McKlain: Well, according to our wiki two are known to exist. And you're right, it stands to reason that there must have been a lot more.

Chase HQ II: Special Criminal Investigation - CPCWiki

[MartynC]

I guess no one is in doubt, but just in case, I can confirm that the video is legit. It's identical to the copy James Bridges loaned me for the Retro Gamer article a few years back.


As you can see, the game really isn't that good 

[Gryzor]

Ah, thanks for that, Martyn!

I wonder how on earth they managed to make it so slower. What was it witht hem?

[Bryce]

I guess no one is in doubt, but just in case, I can confirm that the video is legit. It's identical to the copy James Bridges loaned me for the Retro Gamer article a few years back.


As you can see, the game really isn't that good 

And you didn't dump the ROM !?!?

Bryce.

[MartynC]

And you didn't dump the ROM !?!?

Bryce.

Ha! It was James's express wish that the cartridge wasn't tampered with in any way. IIRC, at the time, the only way to dump the cart was to open it up, and he didn't want to do that.


However, I should have captured a decent quality video playthrough. My mistake.


One thing about that video - the player is a bit rubbish! I recall playing through to the last level (the one where you chase a truck) on my first go.

[Bryce]

Hmmm, pity. It's actually very easy to dump a cartridge without opening it. If you get the chance to borrow it again, let me know and I'll build you a simple device to do it.

Bryce.

[Devilmarkus]

Hmmm, pity. It's actually very easy to dump a cartridge without opening it. If you get the chance to borrow it again, let me know and I'll build you a simple device to do it.

+1 that!

[McKlain]

+1 that!

And one like!

[TotO]

Don't be afraid !!!
Dumping a CPC+ cartridge is "just" reading it. It's not like a JAMMA board.

[Gryzor]

Oh hey, I think Likes are back

[TFM]

Ah, thanks for that, Martyn!

I wonder how on earth they managed to make it so slower. What was it witht hem?

Haha, well it's not soooo bad. And when a car is moving through 3D it talkes a lot of cpu power. Furthermore we know about these speccy ports

[Nich]

@McKlain: Well, according to our wiki two are known to exist. And you're right, it stands to reason that there must have been a lot more.

I know that a mail order company called WAVE advertised in Amstrad Action in around 1993, offering Chase HQ II cartridges for sale. What a shame that I didn't buy one (or indeed, a few) at the time - but I didn't (and still don't) own a Plus machine or a GX4000!

[TFM]

Well, for selling one CHQII cart you could now get lots of Plus and GX    On the other hand you still have good Karma

[Badstarr]

Even if the game is rubbish it should be dumped and preserved for posterity. There may be a few who actually like it I'm sure some of the games I love to load up on my CPC would fall under the "crap" heading but its up to me to "likes what I likes".


If I won the lottery or through some other way became a multi millionaire (I'm working on it honestly ;-)) I would offer a bounty for a cartridge and as soon as it was in my hands it would be dumped and within minutes on the wiki for all to enjoy or to pour scorn upon.


I look at it like this, I had Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream on CD for years I also copied it to tape and later my iPod to me those copies had no value. I like to collect the vinyl versions of my favourite albums and I happily paid £45 for an unopened copy of the same album on vinyl. A few weeks after buying it a vinyl reissue was released (albeit with a different cover) which was available for around £26.


The point is that my vinyl copy is still worth £45-50. It's value hasn't changed to me either. The CD, tape copy and mp3 versions haven't changed its value, there is no substitute for dropping a stylus on a vinyl record and I happily paid a premium for that but the songs are still great on tape or mp3. In the same way we all like to own a 6128 or a Plus machine etc and we will pay some high prices to do just that even though we can use an emulator and that costs us nothing.


I suppose in a nutshell I'm saying a rom dump has no inherent value but the original cartridge always will. The only thing that could change that is if a secret cache of unopened copies are ever found and things like that do happen! The only downside is that some dodgy people on eBay might make bootlegs and try to pass them off as original.


Just my thoughts on the matter!

[TFM]

Ok, so if this guy who bought the CHQII Cart will not allow to dump it then we will flood ebay with 100 carts of that kind and then he is fecked