CPC Club (CPC Whatsapp Group)

[DoctorCPC]

I created a CPC whatsapp group. currently only logiker and I are in the group. If anyone wants to have a CPC chat, please write via private message. I will send whatsapp link. so we can always have the conversation about CPC between us.
note: if you want to join whatsapp group, you can write me direct. my number: +905554983655
and i can add you on cpc whatsapp group.

[Gryzor]

Whatsapp? People still use it after all the privacy backlash? What happened to say, Signal?

[DoctorCPC]

I created a whatsapp group because most people still use whatsapp. most of my friends do not have the signal application installed. I thought it would at least be a start.

[Shaun M. Neary]

Whatsapp? People still use it after all the privacy backlash? What happened to say, Signal?

Weren't the EU exempt from that snoop update because it violates GDPR law?

[Gryzor]

Really not sure. But there are ways around GDPR if you cloak your snooping under legitimate reasons and get consent... anyone read the whole T&Cs recently?

[Shaun M. Neary]

Really not sure. But there are ways around GDPR if you cloak your snooping under legitimate reasons and get consent... anyone read the whole T&Cs recently?

Facebook would be really stupid to even try that with Whatsapp after the shit they landed themselves in with EU law a few years back.

[Gryzor]

Oh yes, I'm sure FB has been chastened and won't be a bad boy any more

[Shaun M. Neary]

Oh yes, I'm sure FB has been chastened and won't be a bad boy any more

Could say the same about almost every internet company to be fair. 

[trocoloco]

I created a whatsapp group because most people still use whatsapp. most of my friends do not have the signal application installed. I thought it would at least be a start.

Why not use Telegram for an Amstrad group instead?

[Gryzor]

Here's a crazy idea! What about IRC? Or, or - just hear me out on this, a forum?

[eto]

Here's a crazy idea! What about IRC? Or, or - just hear me out on this, a forum?

Telnet chat server? Then even a real CPC could participate ;-)

[Gryzor]

This gave me the idea of a theme-able chat app - I'd love if it I could have an app on my mobile I could use to chat, which would be themed after a CPC monitor.

[eto]

And now seriously: I will not join a Whatsapp group or similar as I prefer the asynchronous communication of the Forum or Facebook groups. Whatsapp is not good for asynchronous communication. If you don't participate immediately, it's almost impossible to understand the context, e.g. after a few hours. Even worse: topics are not organised.

A chat is great for (near) real time collaboration, not so much for experience exchange.

[Gryzor]

That's why I don't get why people use the big social media for such discussions. I don't see what a FB group -for instance- or a chat has to add in terms of features, while I can see all those drawbacks...

True, sometimes it's fun if you've got the time, but real-time has very limited use I think...

[eto]

a FB group

FB has one BIG advantage over the forum: the quantity. The forum probably is joined by the core of the community and in terms of quality, it leaves FB easily behind. But the many people that are just loosely following what is going on, are more likely to be found on Facebook. And with them, many announcements for stuff that is going on.

[Gryzor]

Oh I know, don't get me wrong; you're casually browsing Facebook after the kids have fallen asleep or at the dentist's and someone tags you to join a relevant group, sweet, this should be fun! I'm not arguing with that. But there are lots of people who are really and deeply active and involved with the scene who prefer those media... that's what I don't get, but oh well I guess I'm growing old.

[Devlin]

I like forums, at least in some cases the site(s) get archived by IA or whatever, and you get a relatively useful repository of information.


I like "live" media platforms like Discord too, because you can just spark up a conversation with whoever's there.


What I do not like (sorry) is whatsapp. it's reserved for family and friends(i've met irl and know well) because my mobile number I like to keep as private as reasonably possible

[mr_lou]

I can't really see any big difference between a Discord server and a forum like this one.

I know Discord is supposed to be a chat, but let's be honest. We know that the only ones who contribute to any conversation are the ones who are currently there - but that's just like it is on the forum too, isn't it? You gotta be online. When you get online both platforms lets you contribute to the ongoing conversation/thread. Just scroll up/down to see what other users wrote.
On both platforms you can choose to be notified when someone writes anything. Either with a popup or an e-mail.
You can tag specific users for them to be notified - also on both platforms.

The only real difference, as far as I can see, is that conversations aren't indexed into threads like on a forum. But Discord servers are always split into several channels for different categories of chat, so that's kinda the same.

But this is coming from a guy who still doesn't understand why everyone turned their back to MMS in favor of other services who offered the exact same feature, as if there wasn't already an option to send pictures to each other....

[trocoloco]

why not use also other ways of communicating? free choice and nobody forces us to use them, the more variety the better.

There is a Spanish Telegram group CPC related with over 300+ people called Amstrad Power.  I know... crazy stuff when you have a forum right? 

[Shaun M. Neary]

But this is coming from a guy who still doesn't understand why everyone turned their back to MMS in favor of other services who offered the exact same feature, as if there wasn't already an option to send pictures to each other....

Mainly cost.
To send a photo via MMS on a regular basis, it will show up on your phone bill at the end of the month (or eats up your prepaid credit). Whereas using the likes of Whatsapp, FB messenger etc it just comes out of your data allowance.


It really is that simple.

[mr_lou]

Well it may vary from country to country of course, but here in Denmark everyone just pays a quarterly fee, and then has unlimited messages - including MMS.
At least it's still possible to send MMS. It's still the only method I use for sending pictures.

[Gryzor]

I can't really see any big difference between a Discord server and a forum like this one.

I know Discord is supposed to be a chat,

You answered yourself - it *is* a chat. The fact that the same people are on both media doesn't make them the same. Saying "you gotta be online" to equate synchronous and asynchronous communication and participation is... pretty weak. I mean, nobody even positions chat systems like Discord as a forum equivalent, I don't know how you do it You can also search wikipedia, and you can also participate and contribute there, does that make Discord or a forum the equivalent of Wikipedia? Just because you can scroll? Not to mention the channels - at the very best channels would be the equivalent of subfora, not discussions, but for the love of god you can't, again, equate the two!

[mr_lou]

I mean, nobody even positions chat systems like Discord as a forum equivalent, I don't know how you do it

So what are we doing right now, if not chatting?Replying to each other here, minutes apart? What's that called?
For me, that's a chat no different from those I have on Discord. Just on another platform. Otherwise no difference whatsoever.

[Gryzor]

Oh yes, minutes apart.

"Quote from: mr_lou on Yesterday at 18:41:04"

I got a reply notification in another thread, another member quoted a message of mine from 2016 but sure, let's say that's real-time chatting!

[mr_lou]

That can happen on Discord too. Still a chat.