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Title: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: toms on 20:44, 06 January 19

Registration page is online! (https://2019.revision-party.net/f/start)


Who's in?
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Targhan on 21:33, 06 January 19
Me!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: BSC on 10:09, 07 January 19
Me too! Have just registered at 2019.revision-party.net :)

Octoate and Prodatron will also be there.
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: krusty_benediction on 15:59, 07 January 19
probably not me. Will try however to release something
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Prodatron on 22:00, 12 April 19
Only one week left! :P
As usual I can prepare some table reservation sheets again for the CPC area.
Will try to collect all Amstrad attenders and post a list here soon.
We are there before 12 again.
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Targhan on 22:53, 12 April 19
I'll be there, but probably a dozen minutes after the opening.

QuoteAs usual I can prepare some table reservation sheets again for the CPC area.
I don't remember who told me that (Beb?), but last year an organizer apparently told him that it would not be possible anymore, so... Maybe we'll have to split in a few tables if people are coming late!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Prodatron on 23:07, 12 April 19
Officially they never allowed this but we can try again.If you come 15mins later, we should still be able to keep your table free by placing some random stuff around :)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Prodatron on 23:16, 12 April 19
Here is a first list:

Beb
Hicks
Targhan
Roudoudou
Toto
Toms
Lone Ranger
Offset
Barjack
Madram
Prodatron

Cider
BSC
Kangaroo MusiqueMarkus
Octoate

Did I forget someone?
What's about e.g. Eliot, Overflow etc.?
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Ast on 20:52, 13 April 19

It seems you missed Madram & Barjack With his incredible hat...

Prodatron : will you make a new demo for this event ? We are all waiting for it!  :P
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Prodatron on 21:55, 13 April 19
They are coming? How cool! :D
Ast, Not this time but I am planning something for next year.
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: norecess464 on 13:42, 14 April 19
You lucky guys !! Have fun. Can't wait to see what this year will bring!  :)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 12:44, 15 April 19
Quote from: norecess on 13:42, 14 April 19Can't wait to see what this year will bring!  :)
Veggie burgers and Pizza Peperoni ?  ;D
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: roudoudou on 10:21, 16 April 19
Hi


Will it be someone coming with a gx4000
Targhan and i will need a real hardware to compete
Thanks
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 12:25, 16 April 19
Late to be able to take a GX4000 with me... I will ask iXien Thursday if possible. (really not sure)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Prodatron on 01:10, 17 April 19
Quote from: roudoudou on 10:21, 16 April 19Will it be someone coming with a gx4000
Targhan and i will need a real hardware to compete
I will try to bring one!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Prodatron on 13:41, 18 April 19
- Table Reservation Sheets printed (if still possible ;) )

- I will bring some AMSDAP4.2 (4 x Mother4X CPC Expander/2 x MSX adapter) cards; if someone is interested in one of these, you can get them

- I found a GX4000 + some cables, I will bring it, but I am not 100% sure, if it's working, as I didn't try it since 15 years or so

See you tomorrow!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Targhan on 13:44, 18 April 19
I should be there just after the door opening this time, and not before.

See you tomorrow!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: CraigsBar on 20:55, 18 April 19
I'll be watching the streams on twitch. Hope you all have a blast.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tjohnson on 22:10, 18 April 19
Have fun guys, are there any good UK meetings scheduled anywhere?
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: norecess464 on 03:59, 19 April 19
Oooooh lucky guys... so sad for not coming this year.  >:(
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 11:19, 19 April 19
Quote from: tjohnson on 22:10, 18 April 19
Have fun guys, are there any good UK meetings scheduled anywhere?
There's always NOVA - https://www.demoparty.net/nova19/
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 12:30, 19 April 19
First picture...
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 13:53, 19 April 19
For sofa sceners;
https://2019.revision-party.net/live
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 14:19, 19 April 19
Quote from: TotO on 12:30, 19 April 19
First picture...
give me more pictures or better even, some video , please  :o
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 15:55, 19 April 19
Today...
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 16:07, 19 April 19
Cheeeeeeers!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Prodatron on 16:36, 19 April 19
Quote from: TotO on 15:55, 19 April 19
Today...
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 16:41, 19 April 19
Ha! That looks a little like PINBALL DREAMS! ^_^
What do you guys, at the party, think of it?



EDIT: That was a really good OPENING CEREMONY! Very clever, very funny, very good! I predict a great demoparty... which I will miss due to Spanish Red Wine(TM)!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Prodatron on 21:46, 19 April 19
Quote from: SuTeKH/Epyteor on 16:41, 19 April 19
Ha! That looks a little like PINBALL DREAMS! ^_^
What do you guys, at the party, think of it?
Fucking cool! :D
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 09:15, 20 April 19
Today...
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 12:10, 20 April 19
TRACKED MUSIC COMPO - Quite a nice compo! Well done! A number of those 4-channel chiptunes can be added to my "converted tunes library"... I'm aiming for 800 in total by the end of this year and 1000 by the end of 2020! ^_^




EDIT: "We're not allowed to use the F-word. Flopine has asked if we do not use the F-word. It's going to be fucking hard, but we're not going to use the F-word!" - Okkie, a few minutes ago!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TomEtJerry on 13:53, 20 April 19
I will try to follow the oldskool compo streaming this night. I hope there will be many cpc prods to discover :-).
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 14:27, 20 April 19
Quote from: TomEtJerry on 13:53, 20 April 19
I hope there will be many cpc prods to discover :-).
I hope there will be many cpc music from others. :-)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Rhino on 15:43, 20 April 19
Quote from: TotO on 09:15, 20 April 19
Today...
Good luck tonight, guys!Btw, Winden, a Batman Group member, and other friends from the Spanish scene will release an Amiga AGA demo. I can't wait to see the contest!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 18:04, 20 April 19
- Oldskool Music Compo -

Vincenzo - Battlestar Watchtowerica : C64 New SID
bod - Coprolalia : C64 New SID
Curt Cool - To Molecular Floor : Pretracker (Amiga)
Los Pat Moritas - THCM Please Release Your Music Tool : C64 New SID
Response - Kinky Stinky Pinky : C64 New SID
PCH - hard(re)start : C64 New SID (2xSID)
LMan - Deep Kiss (Revision Edit) : C64 New SID (2nd Place - Due to "B.U.G. (https://www.discogs.com/Fuck-The-Industry-And-Motherfuck-Radio-Man-No-Vocals-Necessary-Movement-The-BUG-EP/master/19278)" samples)
RoccoW - Drink Water OK : NES (RP2C33)
Radiant - Kippers as Slippers : C64 New SID
Tijn - Moar seatz plz : DOS & OPL3 (Yamaha YMF262)
Triace - 40 years of detunation - Atari XL/XE (in 10Kb) (Ok, this one wins for me! ^_^ REALLY!)
LFT - Thus Spoke the PC Speaker (640Kb OK) - C64 New SID
Aki - Estrogen Ride - ZX Spectrum (AY) (3rd Place - AY!)
AceMan - One More Chance - SNES (S-SMP)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 19:58, 20 April 19
@Prodatron ... Who are the guys that appear in the photos, playing pinball dreams ... please?  :-X
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: MaV on 20:15, 20 April 19
Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 19:58, 20 April 19
@Prodatron ... Who are the guys that appear in the photos, playing pinball dreams ... please?  :-X
The one with the beard seen from the right side is Hicks, if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: roudoudou on 21:20, 20 April 19
oldschool demo compo starts at 23:00 (fuc.kin' soon)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: norecess464 on 21:48, 20 April 19
Quote from: roudoudou on 21:20, 20 April 19
oldschool demo compo starts at 23:00 (fuc.kin' soon)
Yep!! Also there watching the Twitch stream !! (Mais pour le moment, je vois juste des gros poilus danser devant la scene :) )
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 01:55, 21 April 19
- Oldskool Demo -

Hooy-Program - The Brexecutable Music Compo Is Over - ZX Spectrum (2nd place!)
Fenarinarsa - Latecomer - Apple ][
ZOO - We are the Chimpions - C64 new SID
Moods Plateau - Twenty - KC 85/4
Chemtrailer Boys - Edison 2019 Invitation - C64 new SID
The Pets Mode - ROBOTTO - MSX1
Desire - 1E78 - Atari 7800
BinaryCounter - Hello - SNES
resource+singular - The 21st - C64 new SID
TRSI - TRSI 4 Nordlicht - Atari 2600
Molive - SNES-NICCC 2000 - SNES
Overlanders - Gloire a Piou! - CPC-6128  (3rd place!)
Titan - MD-NICCC - Sega Megadrive
Pulpo Corrosivo - Octopus Pocus - CPC-6128
The Seniors - Rivalry - C64 new SID (In the "Commodore audience", this wins!)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TomEtJerry on 08:36, 21 April 19
Finally, I have looked at the compo this morning (as usual, Revision organization can't respect announced schedules. Next year, start at 10 PM, we don't care about generic techno/trance music. That's a Computer party guys, we want demos/intros !)

Madram's part seems very nice but was totally ruined by the streaming. I can't wait to see it on a REAL CPC (seems the music has a little synchro problem on a voice at the very end of the demo). Other CPC demo is very good technically but is less original : it looks like an Amiga Intro (style, music), that's not really my cup of tea.

The final C64 demo is good (and will probably win), I like too the Msx demo (nice tune, quite unusual for a MSX demo !) and the TRSI Atari 2600 invitro.
Title: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Maniac on 09:15, 21 April 19
Quote from: TomEtJerry on 08:36, 21 April 19
Finally, I have looked at the compo this morning (as usual, Revision organization can't respect announced schedules. Next year, start at 10 PM, we don't care about generic techno/trance music ! That's a Computer party guys, we want demos/intros !)

Madram's part seems very nice but was totally ruined by the streaming. I can't wait to see it on a REAL CPC (seems the music has a little synchro problem on a voice at the very end of the demo). Other CPC demo is very good technically but is less original : it looks like an Amiga Intro (style, music), that's not really my cup of tea.

The final C64 demo is good (and will probably win), I like too the Msx demo (nice tune, quite unsual for a MSX demo !) and the TRSI Atari 2600 invitro.
Where did you find the recording please? Can't see it on the YouTube channel yet.

Stayed up late to watch this live but ended up going to bed after the 4K intros compo as Old School compo was then another hour away!!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 09:43, 21 April 19
DANG! TRY THIS ONE INSTEAD!
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/414135067
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Maniac on 09:44, 21 April 19
Quote from: SuTeKH/Epyteor on 09:43, 21 April 19
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/414254612 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/414254612)
Thank you. Very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 09:49, 21 April 19
Quote from: Maniac on 09:44, 21 April 19
Thank you. Very much appreciated.
Sorry! Wrong video... see my previous post with correct video! ^_^


EDIT: If you wish to download anything released, here's a link to SCENE.ORG Files - https://files.scene.org/browse/parties/2019/revision19/
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 10:49, 21 April 19
Today...
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 12:24, 21 April 19
Best score on "Español" keyboard.  ;D

Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: krusty_benediction on 12:36, 21 April 19
I'm mitigated regarding Overlanders demo. I guess it is a party verion and not the final one.All the things that I though were  captures problems also occurs on a CPC (some can be bugs but most of them are strange artistic choices). So there is truely lots of technical achievements, but this demo will not be as memorable as Ecole Buissoniere.
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: krusty_benediction on 12:40, 21 April 19
Pulpo's demo corresponds exactly at the kind of demos I want to watch on CPC.  I hope it will be ranked for the podium
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Rhino on 14:17, 21 April 19
Two great CPC demos!, I hope at least one of them will be awarded ... and looking forward to seeing them on my CPC!

Btw, many thanks to Overlanders for the greeting!

Quote from: TotO on 12:24, 21 April 19Best score on "Español" keyboard.  ;D
Good! What do you say we have a little contest? Who gets the highest score at the party will have his initials in the default record table of the final release.  :D
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Rhino on 15:15, 21 April 19
A quick manual:

http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/docs.php?id=1216 (http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/docs.php?id=1216)

Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 15:38, 21 April 19
I xill inform peoples about that... If we are not too bad, and if Metr don't come into this day.  ;D
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 15:57, 21 April 19
- Oldskool Graphics -

ozan - Revision Kids - Amiga OCS
Titus/Rabenauge - Smoking - C64
Rahow/Apex - Robot Distress - Amiga OCS
tsukamoto - otakuism - Amiga AGA
orresborre/TAONGAD - Revision Man - NES
Hammerfist - No Sollicitors - C64
beb/Vanity - Brutal Deluxe - CPC-6128
FadeOne/Abyss - Enter The Abyss - Amiga ECS (1st place)
farfar - See - C64
Facet - King For A Day - Amiga OCS (3rd place)
Exocet - Life And Death Of A Gnome - Amiga OCS
Made/Bomb - The Eye - Amiga (2nd place)
LMan - Cyberbird - C64



EDIT: Also, is it me or, do the C64 entries (msx, demo, gfx) this year seem to move up & down... even if they're not using interlacing? The other formats (8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit, 64-bit) seem fine and are static!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 17:06, 21 April 19
"All of that for a fucking invite?!?!?!"
- Subi, a few minutes ago!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 17:32, 21 April 19
I'm not OK for "Enter the Abys", because looking the intermediate work, we have not seen how the face, hair and jacked was drawn.
Zooming on it, the pixel work is not fantastic and looks like transfered pictures to low colour/resolutions. (how to is part of the contest)

For the real work provided, I prefert:
1- KING FOR A DAY BY FACET
2- THE EYE BY MADE / BOMB (but I don't like the idea)
3- BRUTAL DELUXE BY BEB / VANITY-

Now... How to comptet 4 colours 8-bit (using rasters) VS 32 colours 16-bit without any technical acheivement?


EDIT: It is a shame that graphics shown into a demo can compete on gfx compo too... (second time)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 17:46, 21 April 19
Quote from: TotO on 17:32, 21 April 19
I'm not OK for "Enter the Abys", because looking the intermediate work, we have not seen how the face, hair and jacked was drawn.
Zooming on it, the pixel work is not fantastic and looks like transfered pictures to low colour/resolutions. (how to is part of the contest)
That's fair enough! But, I know a lot about FadeOne's work in the past (I've recoloured a number of them! ^_^) and it looks good enough for me to assume it's all his own pixelling!

However, even if not, and his work needs to be disqualified, I would still put "orresborre/TAONGAD - Revision Man" as 3rd place. I like the idea of a superhero with a beer-gut (I guess I identify with him! ^_^) However, like all things, it's a subjective view!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 18:51, 21 April 19
Quote from: SuTeKH/Epyteor on 17:46, 21 April 19However, even if not, and his work needs to be disqualified, I would still put "orresborre/TAONGAD - Revision Man" as 3rd place. I like the idea of a superhero with a beer-gut (I guess I identify with him! ^_^) However, like all things, it's a subjective view!
Sure, really funny picture!  :)  (many peoples looks like here now)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 18:57, 21 April 19
- Oldskool 4Kb Intro -

Viscid - Time To Get Ill (A DIP Into Space) - Atari 2600 with 32b DIP switches
jK - Hard Waves - Atari 2600 with 32b DIP switches
LFT - Little Dipper - Atari 2600 with 32b DIP switches
Jasmine68k - Harte32 - Atari 2600 with 32b DIP switches
K2 - Tres Monos - Commodore VIC-20 (3rd place)
Lethargy - 4k PETSCII reMETA Intro - C64 new SID
Citavia - No Neo (No Party!) - Neo GeoCD (2nd place)
Loonies - Don't be square - Amiga 500
Vanity - The Third Kind - Amstrad CPC-6128
SerzhSoft+Gasman - Megademica - ZX Spectrum & AY-chip (1st! AAMMIIGGAAHH!)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 19:07, 21 April 19
Where is ...  beb/Vanity - Brutal Deluxe - CPC-6128  - for download ?  :o
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 20:12, 21 April 19
Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 19:07, 21 April 19
Where is ...  beb/Vanity - Brutal Deluxe - CPC-6128  - for download ?  :o
All of the Oldskool Graphics (including that one) can be downloaded here - https://files.scene.org/browse/parties/2019/revision19/oldskool-graphics/ (https://files.scene.org/browse/parties/2019/revision19/oldskool-graphics/)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: krusty_benediction on 20:29, 21 April 19
Quote from: XeNoMoRPH on 19:07, 21 April 19
Where is ...  beb/Vanity - Brutal Deluxe - CPC-6128  - for download ?  :o
ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/2019/revision19/oldskool-graphics/brutal.zip
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 21:27, 21 April 19
@RaFT/TRSI
You HAVE to get that GAME/WATCH game working on CPC! ^_^

P.S. Amazing 8k demo, fella! Top work!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYUlmpXlo5k
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: MaV on 10:18, 22 April 19
They're late for the prize giving ceremony, as always.
Let's hope for the best, however I fear the remake demos for the Mega Drive and SNES will probably win in Oldskool, because reasons ...
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: krusty_benediction on 12:13, 22 April 19
Quote from: MaV on 10:18, 22 April 19
They're late for the prize giving ceremony, as always.
Let's hope for the best, however I fear the remake demos for the Mega Drive and SNES will probably win in Oldskool, because reasons ...
finbally, what is the result for the CPC prods ? I've seen on pouet that the 4k is ranked 3rd. What about the demos on gfx ?
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: MaV on 12:26, 22 April 19
Quote from: krusty_benediction on 12:13, 22 April 19finbally, what is the result for the CPC prods ? I've seen on pouet that the 4k is ranked 3rd. What about the demos on gfx ?
The Third Kind by Vanity was 3rd, yes.
Octopus pocus made only the 6th place, unfortunately, Overlander's demo did not make it into the first seven places (only seven are shown on screen during the ceremony), and Brutal Deluxe was also 6th (or thereabouts). :(
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Targhan on 22:12, 22 April 19
Hey, back from Revision, happy but exhausted!

Hicks and Beb demo was 3rd for 4k Old School, which was unexpected because there was some serious competitor. So I could receive the award with them, woohoo :).
Tom's demo had a very good reception when it was screened, but the result (6th) was a disappointment. Oh well, we'll survive :).

Anyway, a really great party, really nice guys (and girls!), a lot of cool talking, and interesting prods (though PC demos (no limitations) were not very interesting).
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Targhan on 22:33, 22 April 19
As for Madram's demo, I can't pronounce on what we saw because it was not fully finished (it should be in a week, according to its author. The introduction was missing from the stream). The demo is very very technical, so technical that the video recorder of the Revision couldn't grasp the data correctly, resulting in annoying visual artifacts. Basically, no one (including myself) really understood what was going on, and the demo felt kinda rushed, so we predicted it wouldn't make it in the final result. Such is the hard world of party and demomaking...
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Prodatron on 22:39, 22 April 19
Congratulation for Hicks and Beb and you!!  :) :)
Revision 2019 was so fantastic again! :) Great to meet you again! And I am looking forward to our photo session :P

Quote from: Targhan on 22:33, 22 April 19As for Madram's demo, I can't pronounce on what we saw because it was not fully finished (it should be in a week, according to its author. The introduction was missing from the stream). The demo is very very technical, so technical that the video recorder of the Revision couldn't grasp the data correctly, resulting in annoying visual artifacts. Basically, no one (including myself) really understood what was going on, and the demo felt kinda rushed, so we predicted it wouldn't make it in the final result. Such is the hard world of party and demomaking...
Cool to hear, that the final version will be even better! :)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: roudoudou on 08:45, 23 April 19
Quote from: Targhan on 22:33, 22 April 19
As for Madram's demo, I can't pronounce on what we saw because it was not fully finished (it should be in a week, according to its author. The introduction was missing from the stream). The demo is very very technical, so technical that the video recorder of the Revision couldn't grasp the data correctly, resulting in annoying visual artifacts. Basically, no one (including myself) really understood what was going on, and the demo felt kinda rushed, so we predicted it wouldn't make it in the final result. Such is the hard world of party and demomaking...
Was the dots clean on bigscreen? Because on the live stream they said bigscreen was 50Hz and lossless capture whereas twitch streaming was 60fps and on the fly encoding -> THEY KILL THE ENCODER!!!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Targhan on 08:57, 23 April 19
QuoteWas the dots clean on bigscreen? Because on the live stream they said bigscreen was 50Hz and lossless capture whereas twitch streaming was 60fps and on the fly encoding -> THEY KILL THE ENCODER!!!

I don't remember exactly, all my memories of this demo are fuzzy :). But I guess the dots were OK.
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: MacDeath on 11:00, 23 April 19
Greetings..

congrat for Vanity's 3rd place in Oldschool 4k, the 2 other winners were worthy opponents too.
>> speccy entry was huge and in two parts (just like last year's winner... can I see a trend?), but didn't look great due to being speccy  ::) , but a lot of "video".
>> the Amiga entry was nice and cute.


Concerning oldskool Demo :  some results feel strange...

>> the Titan entrie is ... a port from an old ST demo on a superior system ? ok it contains some additional original stuff (great pixelised logos, good music) but still... but titan is well liked by public.
>> the speccy brexit one wasn't that good demowise and basically is a humouristic win. Fair enough this happens a lot (oh Hi Kevin !) and shows that story telling is quite a huge part to win this award.

Still the CPC entries were perhaps too short and not refined enough, were good technically though but had close to no story telling, were too abstract.
While technical demos can be good on exotic and rarely seen machines, CPC is a mature format that really need to tell a story... that's what The Third Kind did and it did well, being also "technical" as it could bring a lot of graphic content in 4k on CPC.

= Again the great C64 alliance with 4+ groups managed to produce a well refined product that fits the audience's taste. No surprise, no big deal.
Amstrad Scene cannot compete in the "collaboration" production department.


Oldskool graphics :
Really hard to compete against the cohort of Amiga graphics... can't they have their own category here too ? Last year Beb was quite lucky to manage a 3rd place but this is rare occurence and this year felt a bit higher level on the amiga/C64 side than last year.
Also those graphics extracted from concuring demos, not "original" content made especially for the graphic contest... as usual it brings some questions.
While limited hardware can be a bonus in Demo, here the Amiga is basically low-rez modern graphics and the machine with less constraint is the more appreciated, also they have a harddon for C64 palette and don't like "vivid colours"... perhaps some PLUS entries with tricks may work as they would not be too far from Amiga-like rendering.

Yeah I shouldn'tt tell all that because i'm just a sofascener...  ;D
Hope you guys had fun, can't wait for proper reports and more photos.



Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: norecess464 on 13:56, 23 April 19
Yep, I second @MacDeath (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=221) .

A bit disappointed by Titan prod, it's not fair to make a demo based on data from another demo (this is NOT a remake). That contest on Pouet was supposed to be a challenge for programmers..
This year I have been enjoying a lot the Amiga OCS demos.. amazing job from TBL (the girl converting to 3D, this is just marvelous) and TheDeadliners/Lemon/Oxygene prod.
The Amstrad demos were technically top-notch, but I think they pushed too far their unconventional style.
I will wait for final version of @madram (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1459) demo to get a definitive opinion.
Overall - I can guarantee you that sofa-scening is both practical and frustrating!!  ;)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: MaV on 14:09, 23 April 19
Well, here's my résumé (agreeing mostly with MacDeath and norecess):
The C64 demo was alright and polished, but reading the list of participants I was left with the impression that the C64 guys are beginning to feel the heat, and thus were in need to get together to accomplish something. Their motto was also an indication "We're not coming in peace."
With the MegaDrive demo copying an existing ST demo, I had to ask myself if the guys are running out of creative ideas. It's well done, but left a bitter taste in my mouth. It was fun once with the "Second Reality" offshoots but gets old really quickly. The execution was good, I have to admit. (Wasn't there another one on the SNES, or am I making things up?)

I'm getting pissed off at the graphics which are reused from a demo. This cheap grab at prizes is not always obvious at first sight, because said compos are sometimes even on two different days, but I try to downvote such by at least one star. The question is should others go along and join the trend? If it isn't regulated by the organisers in the future I would say "YES!" make a demo and relase the graphics to the graphics compo! Fight them with their own weapons!

I don't think they'll ever split up the graphics compos into Amiga and 8 bit computers, simply because there aren't so many entries in the category as a whole.

And, well, the Kevin demos successfully subverted the PC demo category for the second time.

Highlights:
A very cool rubber cube in octopus pocus.
A deserved 3rd place for the third kind. That was quite a lot to pack into 4k!
Two Amiga 500 demos winning over all the AGA entries (and rightfully so)! That was very satisfying to watch.
A JS/WebGL demo winning in the PC 4k category.

MaV (sofascener with a license to vote ;) No, really, usually I'm buying a ticket even if I'm not coming to Saarbrücken! )
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: MacDeath on 18:11, 23 April 19
Yep, it was a private contest to port the same ST demo on SNES and SMD and they released it there.
It's as if someone would release some Bad Apple port at revision and win a prize with it  IMHO...

pro tip : a Demo made by 20+ dudes would get a large pool of points just with the votes of the makers.


I guess next year we should make a Speccyport of "The Brexecutable Music Compo Is Over" and call it a day, bing well deserved 2nd place... look we have a bit more colours on screen and it is in fullscreen as well and I added a MacDeath Logo in Mode2, speccy can't do that... checkmate !!!
:picard:


Also yep the "graphics extract from one of the Demo entries"... by the same dude as last time, same questionable method.
Great graph but as I think : at this point we are in low rez modern graphics category.


I believe the millenials are getting into oldskool by now...


Post Edit :
Saw Madram's demo at Roudoudou's flat.... really better on real thing than on the Live Stream, as expected.
I loved the "gear bar" appearing progressively from the right to left with a nice perspective effect.
And some nice palettes on screen in low-colour modes.
Lots of dot texts over dithered background, this kills encoder everytime...  :D
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 18:33, 23 April 19
Demos "remake" should be here for the show, but out of contest (i.e. like some Canne Festival movies)

I was annoyed too by the picture used for oldschool graphics, next for oldschool demo. The guy does the same last year... Not fair play.
In this way, you can have many entries with duplicates into music, ASCII and animated gif categories. Just nerd.  :-\

A nice party with a big up to the Amiga demos this year!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: TotO on 14:30, 25 April 19
And during this time, the same demo in best (full screen by Resistance) was released on MD outside the party:

https://youtu.be/2shSIHBK11w (https://youtu.be/2shSIHBK11w)

Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: toms on 16:14, 27 April 19
Here (http://memoryfull.net/post.php?id=40&page=1) I wrote some technical details about Octopus Pocus if you are interested.
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: tastefulmrship on 10:26, 29 April 19
A write-up on how Hoffman created that amazing soundtrack for EON (by TBL) - https://hoffman.home.blog/2019/04/27/eon/
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: toms on 10:03, 30 April 19
The photowall is available here (https://2019.revision-party.net/history/2019/photowall)!


If you are looking for the CPC sceners, have a look here (http://memoryfull.net/party.php?id=234) (in the photos section)!
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: GUNHED on 15:04, 30 April 19
Really hope to make it next year. Not - at least - I got a new used car, which actually runs well.
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: BSC on 20:34, 30 April 19
Quote from: toms on 10:03, 30 April 19
If you are looking for the CPC sceners, have a look here (http://memoryfull.net/party.php?id=234) (in the photos section)!


This years photo wall session des CPCistes was peut-etre the best ever!
I had a good laugh watching the pictures (at least the first 4000 of em).
Thanks guys, Revision was a blast and I am looking forward to 2020 :D

Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: Targhan on 11:58, 01 May 19
Madram's demo final version is here (http://memoryfull.net/post.php?id=37&page=1), in case you haven't noticed! (scroll to the bottom of the page for the link)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: villain on 18:06, 01 May 19
Quote from: GUNHED on 15:04, 30 April 19
Really hope to make it next year. Not - at least - I got a new used car, which actually runs well.
I always trusted in your cars and will do forever!  8)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: GUNHED on 23:23, 01 May 19
Quote from: villain on 18:06, 01 May 19
I always trusted in your cars and will do forever!  8)


Cool! I told it my car and she wants to meet you.  ;) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 19:03, 11 March 20
(https://i.ibb.co/9GCYT5k/434343.png)
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: GUNHED on 19:54, 11 March 20
Crap, this year I nearly did make it. Now that.  :(
Title: Re: Revision 2019 - April 19th to 22nd
Post by: norecess464 on 20:01, 11 March 20
Sad news. But I believe that was the best appropriate thing to do due to the circumstances..
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