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X-MASS, a mass-storage expansion for all CPC.

Started by TotO, 18:32, 14 December 14

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CraigsBar

Whoohoo!!! My XMASS finally works...


The latest ROM and a return postal trip for the board to Dr @TotO the X-range surgeon general.


Now to copy some stuff over to it!


Thanks a lot I am finally a happy chappy.
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xesrjb

I'm still not able to transfer files via PC on a DOM and use/read it under ACME Dos on a CPC.


That means:


How to format the DOM?
Which DOS to read the DOM's at a CPC?


Or this this problem still unsolved...


xesrjb



,,The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true."

Ast

Quote from: xesrjb on 20:05, 13 August 16
I tried impformat several times, but it didn't run...


xesrjb
What is the real problem with this tool?
I made a more comfortable version in iMPdos and it works very well.


For iMPformat, only use "fast format" option!
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xesrjb

Quote from: Ast on 21:46, 16 August 16
What is the real problem with this tool?
I made a more comfortable version in iMPdos and it works very well.


For iMPformat, only use "fast format" option!

This is the result of format complete; the CPC runs more than 20 minutes and nothing happend; the LED at the X-Mass is on
[attach=2]

formating boot; the CPC is frozen directly
[attach=3]

This is my startscreen
[attach=4]

I try it with 4 different DOM's with and without an external power supply. I start the impformat from disk and via RSX out of the ROM. Always the same result...


xesrjb
,,The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true."

Ast

it's really Strange.. Does anybody else have the same problem ?
I use the lastest version in iMPdos, and all is running well.
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xesrjb

Quote from: Ast on 17:52, 17 August 16
it's really Strange.. Does anybody else have the same problem ?
I use the lastest version in iMPdos, and all is running well.


Can you please send a link for the latest version, perhaps I have the wrong version...


xesrjb

,,The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true."

TotO

Quote from: xesrjb on 19:18, 16 August 16
I'm still not able to transfer files via PC on a DOM and use/read it under ACME Dos on a CPC.


That means:


How to format the DOM?
Which DOS to read the DOM's at a CPC?


Or this this problem still unsolved...


xesrjb
I post again, but have you tried AcmeDOS with the |FORMAT command?
"You make one mistake in your life and the internet will never let you live it down" (Keith Goodyer)

Ast

TotO is right! Do you test the |format command from ACMEdos?
Other hand : send me an email i'll send it to you !
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xesrjb

Quote from: TotO on 19:19, 17 August 16
I post again, but have you tried AcmeDOS with the |FORMAT command?


Yes, of course. The DOM will get formated. If I save some files on this formated DOM, I can't seem them with my PC (Windows XP System). After transfering files with this PC on this DOM, they were not seen at the CPC under ACME Dos...


xesrjb
,,The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true."

xesrjb

But I postet a program to write an 128mb Image of a DOM.


Perhaps some will use this program to write a running DOM and add this Image to this thread...




xesrjb
,,The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true."

Ast

Send me your working example in a .bin file then i'll do an IMPformat "special edition" for you.
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CraigsBar

OK, as reported earlier in this thread, the XMASS now works perfectly with the latest AcmeDOS however I have noticed a couple of issues.


The DOM is not recognised in any modern system (WIndows, Linux, OSX, and as such I have to rely heavily on the |cph command to copy things onto the DOM.. One HFE file at a time.


OK So I am not the only one with this issue at least :)


Next problem


I though to combat this I'd copy things over using the Minibooster but no, this does not work either, as soon as AKSROM.rom is installed into the xmem, then the DOM stops working in on the CPC, everything works fine for A and B drives, but try to access or use D and the machein locksup for a bit and then returns "bad command"


So, Is there any other software that can use the minibooster (and AFT) to transfer files to the CPC or is there a posibility of a fix to the Arkos Rom Pack / AcmeDOS that will resolve this issue?


Craig

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zhulien

If x-mass storage is compatible with symbiface is it a hardware limitation that we should use 128mb only? Has anyone tested x-mass with 32gb with symbos? What is the likely outcome?

SOS

#888
Quote from: CraigsBar on 22:58, 17 August 16
I though to combat this I'd copy things over using the Minibooster but no, this does not work either, as soon as AKSROM.rom is installed into the xmem, then the DOM stops working in on the CPC, everything works fine for A and B drives, but try to access or use D and the machein locksup for a bit and then returns "bad command"


So, Is there any other software that can use the minibooster (and AFT) to transfer files to the CPC or is there a posibility of a fix to the Arkos Rom Pack / AcmeDOS that will resolve this issue?
Hmm,  my CPC6128, Minibooster, X-MEM+X-MASS worked together without a problem. (and separate power of the MotherX4)
Minibooster can only access the A+B-Drive, so i can only transfer Files from the PC to A or B and I need to copy the files after the transfer to the DOM.
I use the latest ACME-DOS (Rom 6) and the normal "AKSROM.ROM" and "SNARKOS.ROM" (Romslots 30+31).
"BOOSTER.ROM" (Romslot 15), AMSDOS and some other ROMS which can not affect the drive-handling (Maxam, Orgams,...).

Please download "AKSROM" again and do the flashing from "|A" with the original BASIC-X-MEM-Flasher, loaded from "|A" too.
(yesterday i have download a defective BOOSTER.ROM, which makes my CPC crazy  ??? )

zhulien

Is all the developer docs available for xmem xmass playcity and minibooster?

CraigsBar

Quote from: SOS on 05:51, 18 August 16
Hmm,  my CPC6128, Minibooster, X-MEM+X-MASS worked together without a problem. (and separate power of the MotherX4)
Minibooster can only access the A+B-Drive, so i can only transfer Files from the PC to A or B and I need to copy the files after the transfer to the DOM.
I use the latest ACME-DOS (Rom 6) and the normal "AKSROM.ROM" and "SNARKOS.ROM" (Romslots 30+31).
"BOOSTER.ROM" (Romslot 15), AMSDOS and some other ROMS which can not affect the drive-handling (Maxam, Orgams,...).

Please download "AKSROM" again and do the flashing from "|A" with the original BASIC-X-MEM-Flasher, loaded from "|A" too.
(yesterday i have download a defective BOOSTER.ROM, which makes my CPC crazy  ??? )
Ahh yes, with aksrom above both amsdos (parados) and acmedos it works fine... So moved aksrom from 5 to 8 and all is good. Any idea why aksrom/mini booster and the fw3.16 expansion ROM (|flash) don't work with a source file on the xmass?
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SOS

Quote from: CraigsBar on 23:58, 18 August 16
Any idea why aksrom/mini booster and the fw3.16 expansion ROM (|flash) don't work with a source file on the xmass?
The AKSROM can maybe write to the DOM, when SyX released the "CAS_OUT_CHAR"-Version of ACMEDOS.
Why the |flash not worked with files from DOM, i can not understand, maybe the author of the fw3.16 can bring light in the darkness.

Audronic

Quote from: CraigsBar on 23:58, 18 August 16
Any idea why aksrom/mini booster and the fw3.16 expansion ROM (|flash) don't work with a source file on the xmass?
@CraigsBar
I have just tested the following :-
|Flash,"egg.rom",02   and it worked
The file Egg.rom (With Header) was located on D:/ROMS/EGG.ROM on a 128 meg DOM accessed by Acmedos.
Is this the problem you are having ??
Ray
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I keep telling you I am Not Pedantic.
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CraigsBar

OK, so now where are your ROMs located. Mine are as follows.

FW 3.16 lower, basic 1.1, amsdos 0.7, hxc and c4cpc all in the CPR image.

In the xmem I have lower (fw3.16) 0 (basic 1.1) neither of which are used.
1: fw 3.16 exp
6: acmedos
8: aksrom

All other slots are empty. I'll capture the problem tonight bus basically as the ROM data is being written to the screen during the flash process, the data is corrupted if it comes from the xmass Dom but the exact same rom image works fine from the hxc floppy image.
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Audronic

@CraigsBar


I will reconfigure my X-Mem tomorrow morning (Australian time) and see what happens
I will put Egg.rom into slot 2:
Ray
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If it Ain't Broke PLEASE Don't Fix it.
I keep telling you I am Not Pedantic.
As I Live " Down Under " I Take my Gravity Tablets and Wear my Magnetic Boots to Keep me from Falling off.

TotO

May be, your Acme DOS is not up to date? (please, take a look on the first post links)
By the way, SyX is close to release a new version with some improvements.
"You make one mistake in your life and the internet will never let you live it down" (Keith Goodyer)

CraigsBar

Quote from: TotO on 16:12, 19 August 16
May be, your Acme DOS is not up to date? (please, take a look on the first post links)
By the way, SyX is close to release a new version with some improvements.
I updated it from git 2 days ago ;)
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Audronic

@CraigsBar


I have just Duplicated what you tried on you system and it worked perfectly here.
Using the |Flash," xxxxxxxxx method


In the xmem I have lower (fw3.16) 0 (basic 1.1) neither of which are used.[/size]1: fw 3.16 exp6: acmedos8: aksrom


Does your AKSROm Have a header ??
Ray
Procrastinators Unite,
If it Ain't Broke PLEASE Don't Fix it.
I keep telling you I am Not Pedantic.
As I Live " Down Under " I Take my Gravity Tablets and Wear my Magnetic Boots to Keep me from Falling off.

Audronic

@CraigsBar
This is how my test setup is before your tests.
Ray
Procrastinators Unite,
If it Ain't Broke PLEASE Don't Fix it.
I keep telling you I am Not Pedantic.
As I Live " Down Under " I Take my Gravity Tablets and Wear my Magnetic Boots to Keep me from Falling off.

CraigsBar

Go figure! And now it works. No changes, nothing! Damn computers ;)
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