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Title: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Nich on 20:27, 29 April 18
I found the tweet below via 4MHz's Twitter feed, and I see @Gryzor (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1) has noticed it too.

https://twitter.com/mariospr/status/989846737580851200

It's a PC keyboard which has been customised so that it resembles a CPC464 keyboard. 8) I'm seriously tempted to obtain one of these myself...

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Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 20:29, 29 April 18
Wait til you see how much it'll cost!!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Nich on 20:32, 29 April 18
Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 20:29, 29 April 18
Wait til you see how much it'll cost!!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Erm, yeah. :( I think I'll pass on this in the meantime.
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: ukmarkh on 20:33, 29 April 18
Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 20:29, 29 April 18
Wait til you see how much it'll cost!!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

How much?


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Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 20:35, 29 April 18
Quote from: ukmarkh on 20:33, 29 April 18
How much?


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Their keyboards range from $150 upwards!
Sorry, but it's just a keyboard at the end of the day.
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: ukmarkh on 20:38, 29 April 18
Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 20:35, 29 April 18
Their keyboards range from $150 upwards!
Sorry, but it's just a keyboard at the end of the day.

More money than sense if anyone buys these.

Just do it yourself http://www.fentek-ind.com/keys.htm#.WuYDShbTWaM


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Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: pelrun on 23:46, 29 April 18
Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 20:35, 29 April 18
Their keyboards range from $150 upwards!
Sorry, but it's just a keyboard at the end of the day.


Definitely expensive, but you get what you pay for. They're mechanical keyboards, very different from the mushy cheap rubberdome mechanisms you get in normal keyboards.


It's when you enter the realm of custom keycaps that it all goes a bit nuts... but you couldn't pry me away from my SA Carbon set.

Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 01:06, 30 April 18
Quote from: pelrun on 23:46, 29 April 18

Definitely expensive, but you get what you pay for. They're mechanical keyboards, very different from the mushy cheap rubberdome mechanisms you get in normal keyboards.


It's when you enter the realm of custom keycaps that it all goes a bit nuts... but you couldn't pry me away from my SA Carbon set.

Perspective thing really. I personally couldn't care less what's inside the keyboards. If i can type with them, then that's all I need. $150 for a keyboard is an out and out dealbreaker for me.  :laugh:
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: tjohnson on 10:04, 30 April 18
I think that keyboard looks a bit odd tbh, don't really see the point of it, i looks vaguely like a cpc464 i suppose.

Lenovo makes a very good keyboard which can be bought for about 15 quid. I have a cherry g80 which cost 60 quid any more than that is pretty insane in my opinion and i wouldn't pay 150 to have some green, red and blue keys. 

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Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Gryzor on 13:48, 30 April 18
Actually $150 for a good mechanical keyboard is not an unheard-of price. If it's good quality (from what I read they're *very* good) it's probably worth it. Of course it's not for everyone. Like with all things out there, if you care about them you'll consider them if you don't care about their selling points you won't.


I'm tempted to get one, but I'm scared of import duties. I had looked into Fentek to do the same thing myself because I think they support the keycap specs of my Matias silent mechanical keyboard, but I'm not sure...
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Lazy Dude on 12:06, 24 May 18
Hey, where's the tape deck?  :laugh:
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 12:42, 24 May 18
Don't you know? Cutting off the tape decks is the in thing these days.  ;)
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Sykobee (Briggsy) on 13:59, 25 May 18
I like the look - although apart from the CPC and 464 keys it can be done with any mechanical keyboard with replaceable keycaps.


And yes, the feel of a mechanical keyboard is superior to rubber dome keycaps. But in the end it comes down to personal preference. It's a primary input mechanism and as-such it's worth spending some money IMO.
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Kris on 14:14, 25 May 18
Miss a 664 version ;)
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Bryce on 14:39, 25 May 18
Quote from: Kris on 14:14, 25 May 18
Miss a 664 version ;)

Just make sure that 5 or 6 of the keys don't work, for that authentic 664 feel :D

Bryce.
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 14:50, 25 May 18
Quote from: Bryce on 14:39, 25 May 18
Just make sure that 5 or 6 of the keys don't work, for that authentic 664 feel :D

Bryce.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: belzebu on 10:35, 12 January 20
Hi, interesting, i m working to similar project too, anyone know the RGB color for colored keys ?
I m searching for it on the web without success...


at this moment this is my project on wasd:


(http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=21_amscpckb_prj.jpg)


Thanks!

Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: roudoudou on 16:26, 07 February 22
Eventually i have mine!

Corsair K68 + Aliexpress keycaps at ridiculous price
(https://i.postimg.cc/LhtPHst0/20220207-152244.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LhtPHst0) (https://i.postimg.cc/0zQKddLL/20220207-152251.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zQKddLL)

yeah, i forgot to replace the small enter key on the right, will do since i have fullset of all colors ;)
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Gryzor on 19:59, 07 February 22
Heh, nice🙂🙂
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Gryzor on 20:00, 07 February 22
Hmm should I get a few cans of paint for my Das? Anyone tried something like that?
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Cunnah on 22:37, 07 February 22
Honestly custom double shot Pbt coloured keycaps are worth the investment in the long run. The keys don't wear out (you would be amazed how many times a key gets pressed!). I have painted keycaps for a project but they didn't last but you can extend their life time by a few steps.


I recommend acrylic paints and varnish as they tend to do less funky things with plastics.


I should note I also used a airbrush for them. I have used spray cans but I never could avoid the paint creating an orange peel surface.
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Gryzor on 14:39, 09 February 22
That was pretty specific! Great advice!!

What is the "keying plastic primer"?

Regarding the finish, are the two last lines complementing or is it or/or? I had used a matt varnish in my tall CPC keycaps-cum-fridge-magnets project and they turned out great.

Orange peel as in it cracks? Has never happened to me with cans...

Also, since I'm not really an expert, are keycaps really that interchangeable? I can go out and buy some and they'll fit on my DAS next to the original ones?
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Cunnah on 15:22, 09 February 22
So some primers actually etch the material and will give the best hold for anything you use. The issue with keys they do get worn quite a bit. I actually didn't do this step I think I used Mr Surfacer 1000 which is a fine pigment filler and basecoat for models. You have to use Mr Color Thinner to use it in an airbrush. With all primers I am afraid you would have to do your homework on what the keycap is made of and what you are using as a paint there is no one single answer I'm afraid.


The Varnish is a couple of coats of Gloss (as directed on the bottle / Can) and then a Matt finish if required. Gloss varnish is harder wearing than matt varnish and anything that is going to be handled needs it. The Matt varnish is purely for cosmetics.


Eventually you will wear through the varnish and the paint. I guess if you notice the gloss showing through you can always re-varnish with Matt to extend its life time.


Orange peeling is when the paint develops a texture similar to the peel of an orange. On small objects I find it can even make them look lumpy or deformed. I am not sure what causes this but I suspect its a combination of layering paint and the layers being too thick. With an airbrush you get much finer control but on the other hand you have to buy an airbrush! I make models so I already have one.


(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onallcylinders.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F07%2Fauto_paint_orange_peel_lg.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)


One last point if you do try to paint your keys make sure you use blue tack to hold them down. Wet paint soaked projectiles do not improve a white painted wall as I once found out  :doh:
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: Cunnah on 15:28, 09 February 22
I just had a friend point out that a half way house between spray paint and an airbrush is what is know as low pressure spray cans, Mr Surfacer comes in one. These give you more the flow you get from an airbrush without the need for an airbrush.  :D


On your last point there are a number of standards the most common modern one is MX Cherry switch standard. My custom keyboard has Gateron switches but they use the MX Cherry standard so I can use any keycaps that match the spec. I'm not 100% but it looks like Das Keyboards use MX Standard so most keycaps you can buy and order will be compatible.
Title: Re: CPC464-themed PC keyboard
Post by: roudoudou on 15:56, 09 February 22
Quote from: Gryzor on 14:39, 09 February 22
Also, since I'm not really an expert, are keycaps really that interchangeable?
most keyboards with cherry switch use the same insertion schem for keyz (so you have to search specifically CHERRY KEYCAPS)

you may encounter width or height variations, most of the time unoticable
a way to avoid size problem (key too big to fit the keyboard box) is to choose a keyboard without bump
on this picture you can see why i choose this keyboard (there are many other like this) because size wont block you if TAB or CAPS is too fat. The key can be push down anyway


(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/715EChtrkGL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
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