This forum!

[ssg]

Folks, it's like I died in 1989 and had gone to the heaven. People talking about Z80 optimizations and firmware? I wish my childhood had seen that. Such a thorough and active content here, it's unbelievable. After trying to learn Z80 assembly from an opcode table, and peek & pokes (writing code like cd ff bb cd 4e bb 21 00 40 11 00 c0 01 00 40 ed b0), this makes me wanna cry


I already had bumped into the wiki (another terrific job) a while ago but forum is the real catch I think. Hope to polish my CPC coding with the help of the community.

See you around.


SSG

[fano]

Hi SSG , welcome on board !

Your are not in heaven , all of this is real  (as long you can consider something as real)
Btw , was CPC distribued in Turkey ?

After trying to learn Z80 assembly from an opcode table, and peek & pokes (writing code like cd ff bb cd 4e bb 21 00 40 11 00 c0 01 00 40 ed b0), this makes me wanna cry

Hey ! that was exactly the same method for me (i got DAMS later )

[norecess]

Hi ssg ! Welcome aboard !


You would be amazed to realize every things that have been released since ; how the limits of the machine have always been pushed a step further again and again ; how development methods still continue to evolve since that time !


Enjoy and give time to the CPC : you won't be disappointed. 

[Bryce]

Hi SSG, welcome to the Forum, I hope you'll be writing and testing your software on real Hardware

@Fano: Of course there were CPCs in Turkey, in fact there were even Turkish CPC magazines, you can find out more about these here: http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Sizin_Amstrad

Bryce

[ssg]

Thank you all for the warm welcome!


@fano: Yes, in addition to what Bryce said, CPC was one of the most popular 8-bits then, only topped by C64 in popularity. I had actually used CPC464's in computing labs of Anadolu University in my hometown before my dad bought me my own (circa 1986) CPC's can still be seen in demoscene parties in Turkey which the most recent one was 7DX 2010.


@Bryce: hopefully! besides keeping my original CPC464 from 1988, I got a "brand new" CPC6128 recently which I'm planning to integrate a 3.5" floppy to it. Any chance you're from Turkey as well?


@norecess: I wasn't so distant from what was happening in CPC scene (I knew about SymbOS and some demos for instance), but I didn't expect such an active and ambitious crowd either. I had felt like only couple of people were left interested in CPC coding. I'm very happy with what I'm seeing now Awesome!

[TFM]

... but I didn't expect such an active and ambitious crowd either. I had felt like only couple of people were left interested in CPC coding. I'm very happy with what I'm seeing now Awesome!

Yeah, since few years I have the impression, that the CPC scene is really growing. If you just look a new productions (Games, Demos, Utilities...) - it's getting better and better :-)

[Bryce]

Hi SSG,
       Nope, I'm Irish but live in Germany at the moment, but I lived in Istanbul for about 18 months around 1999/2000 and still visit Turkey quite often, great place

Bryce.

[redbox]

Hello and welcome 

I already had bumped into the wiki (another terrific job) a while ago but forum is the real catch I think. Hope to polish my CPC coding with the help of the community.

A good reason to promote the forum more on the Wiki front page!

[MacDeath]

Merhaba !
ve hos geldin !

We had almost no Türk members yet.
but a lot of Germans (a bit Türk related ?) and Greeks (oops...I failed my diplomacy roll... ).

And of course shittons of Spanish, UK and Frenchs (despite we the frenchs speack english like spanish cows...)

Even a few Australian and Quebecois.

I already saw pictures of RetroComputers conventions in Türkiye, with CPCs displayed... but my Türkçe is terribad...

I was hoping the Türk "scene" would come here more often, it is now done.

Would be fun to get hands on local productions (Demos, music, Graphics, Softwares or even games ?)... Thx to dump all what you can please...

Also perhaps a few games could be translated into Türkçe... if you have time to share.

[Gryzor]

Hello SSG! Welcome to our site...

Indeed, it's very nice to see guys from Turkey here, seeing as the CPC was quite popular. Even my Turkish colleagues knew the CPC (and told me stories about how they bought pirated games back in the day), and since I mentioned the Wiki to them maybe they account for some of the almost 700 visits we had from Turkey in 2010 I don't know, maybe language is a barrier? Or is the retro scene in Turkey closed, like in other countries?

But yes, the CPC scene has grown by leaps and bounds over the years... I'm always surprised by the speed of it all. Just go check the thread about the 2010 statistics of the site and you'll realise that!!!

Again:welcome; hope you'll stay

PS I thought heaven involved rice and women, not Z80s J/K...

[ssg]

@MacDeath: Hosbulduk! Not bad not bad!   Are you studying Turkish? I would actually LOVE to dump the Turkish stuff here but I lost all my tapes and could only transfer a single tape I had been using a walkman and wav2cdt. We didn't have any serious Turkish productions on CPC scene (if there was any back in the day). It was only for piracy so all we would have are cracktros I remember crackers like ACS (could be German though), MATA HARI, MUSTAFA DAG, EKIMTRONICS, MEMOREKS, EGSA putting cracktros in front of games. We had stuff from SECTION JAGUAR as well. Well, all the Turks living in Germany visiting Turkey, what did you expect? But I usually stripped them off and put my own cracktro in front of those. I have those in DSK I'll beam them up whenever I find time. @Alcofribas would be our guy for Turkish stuff, he probably already knows about the wiki, maybe not the forum. I'll tell him for sure.

@Gryzor: Language is a barrier more or less, but CPC is also overshadowed by Amiga and C64 retroscene currently. And those groups has significant more activity internationally. Snapshot by Glance was the winner of last Breakpoint for instance, 100% Turkish prod.

PS I thought heaven involved rice and women, not Z80s J/K...

No no if you read the holy scriptures carefully they state that, rice, women AND z80s. Lots of them. By the way I'm now really curious which religion promises rice in heaven. A low budget one for sure (Possibly the same one promising Z80)

[TFM]

... crackers like ACS (could be German though)

Was German indeed like Section Jaguar too ;-) Didn't know Mata Hari in person, but it's interesting that he(she) was from Turkey :-)

[ssg]

Was German indeed like Section Jaguar too ;-) Didn't know Mata Hari in person, but it's interesting that he(she) was from Turkey :-)

Yeah I knew SJ was out of country, what I meant was we were getting their stuff   I wasn't sure about ACS. But Mata Hari, I'm quite sure because in one of the scroll text the guy mentioned himself as "Mata Hari (Mustafa Dag)". And both guys' intros resembled same coding style. Or maybe mustafa ripped off mata hari's code and just replaced texts, not sure. In those days it was really hard to validate anything. Not to mention I was in a smaller town than Istanbul, hardly had access to anyone with similar interests.

There was also Ibo, an authentic Turkish CPC coder I personally knew, whom, I think, would have been the most promising CPC coder ever but had unfortunate events in his life had to drop out of coding.

[TFM]

... memories are coming up ACS, Redpoint (a lot of stuff!), Black Mission, and and and...

[ssg]

@TFM: I had kept a list of all the cracker names I met back then in a notebook along with coding tricks. The scene was a complete mystery to me, people with those nicknames, tough-coding badasses. Scene/intros and scrolltexts were my only connection to the outer underground. I read them all without getting bored.


I barely remember names like Rambo, T3M, Knisos (or Tasos) from Fernandez Must Die loader. Groo from Garfield. Wurmi. Der Schulemburger from AcroJet.


Oh, it's been a very long time.

[MacDeath]

Lol no I only have Harrap's heasy Turk for tourist booklet...

I bought 15 different in order to cover most european and mediterranean countries languages...

By the way I'm now really curious which religion promises rice in heaven.

North korean religion perhaps...

[Alco]

I remember crackers like ACS (could be German though), MATA HARI, MUSTAFA DAG, EKIMTRONICS, MEMOREKS, EGSA putting cracktros in front of games. We had stuff from SECTION JAGUAR as well. Well, all the Turks living in Germany visiting Turkey, what did you expect? But I usually stripped them off and put my own cracktro in front of those. I have those in DSK I'll beam them up whenever I find time. @Alcofribas would be our guy for Turkish stuff, he probably already knows about the wiki, maybe not the forum. I'll tell him for sure.

Here I am!

Let's start with the spelling. If you're talking about him; he(yes he is, not she) is matahari, not mata hari-Mata Hari-MATAHARI. With miniscule m.

matahari & Alcofribas

This picture was taken last year. For detailed history just click!

But Mata Hari, I'm quite sure because in one of the scroll text the guy mentioned himself as "Mata Hari (Mustafa Dag)". And both guys' intros resembled same coding style. Or maybe mustafa ripped off mata hari's code and just replaced texts, not sure.

They're not the same guy. It's probably, as you mentioned "ripped off mata hari's code and just replaced texts".

If you want to read new CPC stuff from matahari, just click again & get your copy of Retrojen fanzine!

[ssg]

@Alcofribas, dude you just teleported and resolved all my childhood mysteries This is getting more awesome every day. I wish we had more time to chat at 7dx 2010.