Already bought my entrance card for the big 3D cinema in New Orleans. Will watch the movie on Dezember 17. Can't wait any longer... took me already 28 years to wait for the second part :-)
How many people know the meaning of Tron nowadays?
maybe they should read the Amstrad manual....
Hehe! If they would read it... they wouldn't know much more ;-)
I'm just glad, that we have no BASIC command like CLU or MCP ...
I've seen a preview in cinemas (10-15 minutes long) and can't wait to see it !!
I really hope we'll see Tron, the characters, because if he doesn't appears there's no reason for calling the movie tron.
Downloaded the original a few days ago to prepare myself (and girlfriend). The Xbox game kinda sucks, though. *sigh*
Quote from: jbaudrand on 07:51, 03 December 10
I really hope we'll see Tron, the characters, because if he doesn't appears there's no reason for calling the movie tron.
Well, depends who you define him ;-) Take a look here:
http://disney.go.com/tron/ (http://disney.go.com/tron/)
btw. The site contains a Tron game in which you can explore a huge scenario by using a light cycle, but you can't explore much of the city. I found a way to come behind the barriers, what you find there is HUGE, but I don't know if it was the intension of the programmers...
:D
I didn't knew the Big Dude Lebowsky was such a Roxor at video games... ::)
The amstrad has a spanish game based in original tron(the part of the motorcicles).Is very fun game.
try it!
http://tron.wikia.com/wiki/Zona_0 (http://tron.wikia.com/wiki/Zona_0)
ah view the rest of the webpage all about tron.
http://tron.wikia.com/wiki/Tron_Wiki
There was also Loriciel's "DISC" game...
I had it on my PC EGA but it looked good on CPC too.
There's actually quite a few of those Tron like games floating around on the CPC from 10 Liners and perhaps Typeins to Budget Games. The 10 Liner versions are perhaps restricted to two players in the instances I've seen them to be (which is a pity since I never got a buddie to play it with! :( ), though David Hall made one in 10 Lines which is worth a look (if you can play with a buddie)! :) Masteronic made one called Raster Runner which maybe okay, AA didn't exactly Rave about it though.
I've seen Tron Legacy on Friday 17. and I must say it's really a great movie! However I like the first part a bit more, the new one has too much action and the plot could possibly be improoved a bit. But Finally this movie is a must see! And in 3D it's just amazing.
If you take a look at it, don't expect to find the trailers as part ot the movie, lot's of things have changed.
QuoteAnd in 3D it's just amazing.
What? Jajajajaja.
I see the film yesteday in "3D" The first you see in picture is a mensage That many scenes is filmed in 2D.And recommended not drop the glasses.
Well around 90% of movie is filmed in 2D The scenes in 3D are the scenes with digitalized computer scenes.The light wall for example.
So i no recommend see it in 3D.
The movie i is o.k.But the 3d is a scam
I've heard so many negative things about 3D and now because everything is Digital, 3D TV is the next thing - personally I thought an ordinary TV could simulate 3D - maybe an old CRT will, but an ordinary LCD or Plasma won't - I don't know. I saw this 3D TV yesterday, but didn't really want to try it out and the people beside me that tested it through the glasses didn't really sound all that impressed and given the price they didn't sound all that convinced in buying one.
The concern I had with them came from this Doctor who said watching 3D for prolonged periods will screw up your orientation and your sense of how close things are, they didn't recommend driving after watching a 3D film at the movie theatre. If that's the case I'm definitely sold in watching normal 2D pictures. I'm kind of surprised that 3D Still Photos never became popular though! Even in portrait photography you could do some creative stuff with field of depth - the setback is the glasses, guess someone needs to create a material which can generate foreground, background objects. :)
Well, this was my first 3D movie since over 10 years of so. And I must say (Disney 3D) it's a real gain. However you will probably not use 3D glasses every day for a couple of hours, so everything should be fine.
I'm going to watch Tron Legacy a second time for sure ;-)
I really liked the good old Tron movie.
Great concept, also visually it's so amazing...
Yet considering it is a 80's movie, fun to imagine the virtual inside or our CPC like this...
Your codes/Demos/Games have a soul, lol... sort of...
It was the real first Matrix themed movie... and perhaps even more realistic actually...lol...
I haven't seen the new movie though, is this good ? I love seing BigLebowsky reprising his role.
That's so continuity oriented...
And I suppose it gets more cyberpunk flavoured...
Arkanoid : actually Tron oriented...D'oh!!! (homer)
It wouldn't be Tron without Jeff Bridges! :-[
I had the Storybook and Cassette given to me when I was a kid which I thought was good, and then I saw the film and was horrified! ??? Disney were in that phase of doing darker films during that era - The Black Hole came out around that period too or the late 70s - given the impact Star Wars had created, Sci-Fi was at it's peak and I guess that had an influence on the number of Space Invaders games being sold! ;D
QuoteIt wouldn't be Tron without Jeff Bridges!
But Jeff Bridges is not Tron... ;D
Aw well - they should have called it Flynn instead! 8)
Bridges role in Legacy is revived though, as is Bruce Boxleitner! ;D
Quote from: MacDeath on 07:12, 21 December 10
Yet considering it is a 80's movie, fun to imagine the virtual inside or our CPC like this...
Look at the CPC game Icon John ;-)
Quote from: MacDeath on 07:12, 21 December 10
It was the real first Matrix themed movie... and perhaps even more realistic actually...lol...
Nope, Matrix was just one Tron-like movie amog others. Tron (1982) is the big dad of them all ;-)
3D photographs (wit the special 'glasses' you had to wear) are more than 100 years old... 3D movies were, of course, a hit... 50 years ago. I really can't understand all the craze over this reheated meal. It's not like it's REAL 3D (not THAT would be awesome for soccer maybe!), and having to wear glasses is ridiculous. I did play Avatar in 3D and it was very impressive - you could swear you could just tilt your head and look around a tree, but then again that used an active set of glasses connected to the laptop through USB. And, of course, it was just a game.
The problem with movies is that, while it may be impressive or interesting, the whole process takes you *out* of the movie. The point of a great film is to get you *in* its setting, draw you out of your world and, of course, provide at least some of what they call "suspense of disbelief". If you have to fumble with your glasses, then maybe it's ok for a pop-corn type of movie, but not, of course, for anything remotely serious.
And they told me the same thing about Tron - that it's "not much 3D". Which is even more ridiculous. Not that it is a bad film, I'm just talking about the 3D aspect.
Gryzor wrote:
3D photographs (wit the special 'glasses' you had to wear) are more than 100 years old...
Yes the idea and early forms of it go back to that period, though as time moves on everything progresses and technology enhances. 3D Digital Cameras (http://www.3ddigitalcamera.co.uk/) for example are under the microscope now, the problem is, is the extra expense of having it going to make it a seller. I think this is the problem which is limiting this form of technology to what it is and people aren't going to buy it for the sake of it! ;D They might have to come up with 3D paper before people start buying it - cause looking at something on a 2D surface is a foregone conclusion! ;D
3D movies were, of course, a hit... 50 years ago. I really can't understand all the craze over this reheated meal. It's not like it's REAL 3D (not THAT would be awesome for soccer maybe!), and having to wear glasses is ridiculous. I did play Avatar in 3D and it was very impressive - you could swear you could just tilt your head and look around a tree, but then again that used an active set of glasses connected to the laptop through USB. And, of course, it was just a game.
The 50s might have been it's height - even Alfred Hitchcock did one of his suspense films in 3D cause Warner Brothers wanted it - but like all things it's converted into 2D format! Like the still photos it's probably the same old story, displaying 3D on 2D probably doesn't cut it for people, or going out and getting a 3D telly which is the same anyway for extra money, and if the extra expense doesn't cut it, then that's just another great idea for the scrap heap! Every once in a film 3D seems to make an appearance, I think some interest came around in the 80s, though might have been short lived. We're perhaps now aiming now at what were they were heading with films in the 50s in terms of getting more 3D films into circulation and people may go to watch it, though they may well be as far as it goes!
Until 3D is like walking on a Holodeck in Star Trek, people may not accept it until it's like that! ;)
...which all boils down to one thing: marketing bubble.
Gryzor wrote:
...which all boils down to one thing: marketing bubble.
As always you've nut it all out to my 1D mind! :-[
I love this one, yet a bit short...
Also :
How fun, this is supposed to be a Daft Punk album but they had a composer with them, you know movies music is a lot into violin and grand orchestra...
But perhaps 3-4 songs only actually sound like DaftPunk.
Yet it is quite nice album, I listen to it this week and it is great to go sleep.
Protip : Tron (the program) is the masked red baddy with 4 square dots displaying a "T"....
It was re-programmed by CLU and is his henchman...
Needless to say the "old" actor don't do the stunts, but somethimes you may see his face as Tron... and he still play his role as User.
Just too Bad the...original Tron Blond hottie is no more here... or is she ?
Also : TRON font : I should search for one and get it into CPC friendly...
I really enjoyed this film. Very very different to the first one, much more gritty and dark. The look is very different too. I could see some people not liking it as its not like the first one, but hey hardware and software has been upgraded by nearly 30 years or so!
28 years to be precise... the Encom 511 had time enough to evolve ;-)
Now I'm back from Munich and I'm going to watch Tron Legacy once more in 3D and maybe some times more and more ;-)
Going to see the new movie on sunday in 3D with my girlfriend, kidbrother and another friend. It'll be the first movie I see in 3D. Good choice for a first time experience I think. :)
I found this modern trailer of the old movie on YouTube. That's how the original trailer should have been I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp2gGqgn3Fw
Well.... slightly disappointed.
We give it 2 out of 5 stars. It's ok, but not more than that. Nothing more to say about that.
Saw Tron Legacy (TL) last Friday a second time, even more wonderfull. Can't imagine how the IMDB can give less than 10 of 10. The anti-christian critics about TL in the german Wikipedia are really disgusting, I can imagine from which peoples origin they are.
We already can see, TL is one of the most misunderstood movies. It was in a bit the same with TRON - now 29 years ago - most of the people just don't have access to a certain kind of thoughts.
Maybe you must be at least 40 or older to really understand and appreciate TL, means you should have seen TRON in it's time and you probably should be able to understand what's going on in a computer. CPC teached some of us well, todays generation doesn't even get this chance (a sad thing... to miss the time of the pioneers...). Well, I missed the 60ies, we all have to sacrifice some epoches...
I like CLU's insisting in creating the perfect system - cause, in a digital world perfection can be reached. I invested years of my life to create the perfect system too. However, that killing of the ISOs was not a logic thing, cause they're at least as perfect as ordinary programs.
Further I'm curious how the story with TRON (the program) will continue. I'm pretty much sure, there will be a third part... all the doors for it are open: Tron remembered who he is, the Grid is saved on a chip now, and even the last ISO is save in our world for the moment...
Maybe it's time to create the third part of this story on CPC first ;)
Have a good day programs, (and users if some are still reading...)
TFM
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Quote from: TFM/FS on 20:36, 10 January 11
I invested years of my life to create the perfect system too.
Do you mean FutureOS?
Quote from: redbox on 20:53, 10 January 11
Do you mean FutureOS?
If I say yes, then they're going to burn me like the witches in old times... Perfection lies always a bit in the eye of one ;-) You can argue parts of it, but probably not the parts that are connected to your taste or so...
I doubt there'll be a 3rd part. Too poor reviews, from what I've heard.
I saw the first Tron movie when I was a kid, and have watched it a few times since as well, so I'm one of the few who knew that Tron was actually a program and not the name of the world it all happens in.
There are things in the old movie that are silly as well, but that was 1982 and this is now. I really think they should have done a number of things differently in Tron Legacy. Too many things are just illogical, considering it is a computer, as you say.
For example, it makes no sense that Tron suddenly remembers who he is, just because he gets eye-contact with Sam. He had plenty of time to look at Sam during the games first in the movie.
And it's also silly that Sam appears in the grid world at a copy of Kevin's office, and have to exit way up in the air where "it's difficult to reach". Difficult to reach? They could all fly!
I can accept that the light-cycles now turn 360 degrees and are able to perform jumps - because of evolution or whatever you want to call it. But they can't leave the game grid? What? Ok ok... we can come up with an excuse for that too. Some players probably left the game grid a while back, so Clu made new rules that prevented them from doing so in the future. We can find excuses for most things, but I still think it's silly. It's like they've been discussing the plot: "Ok, so Sam escapes the same way Kevin did?"
"Yea, and then Clu and the other baddies follows"
"So how does he escape?"
"hmm... let's just say they can't"
"...can't? What? Why not?"
"....the bikes has to stay on the game-grid"
"How can Sam escape then?"
"Um...let's say he gets picked up"
But there are also things I liked. I recognized a few of the Linux commands when a character was typing in the console, and it's really nice to finally see some non-scifi regarding that part. (As opposed to the hacking-scenes in e.g. Hackers or Jurassic Park).
I also liked the many things they kept from the original, from the recognizers to the presentation of the identity disc, which was kept from the 1982 movie word by word.
And the music was great all the way! Sadly they over-used it. Even when the story was slowing down, the music kept on booming as if they were telling me "Hey, this is a great moment in the movie" - and I looked around to see where this great moment was hiding.
All in all Tron Legacy was disappointing to me. It's a thin predictable story, and it really deserved much more. It deserved much more thinking before it went into production.
Oh wow! Can't answer all that points. Finally it's all about personal taste and personal expectations.
The secret of my luck is not to expect anything. I'm glad for everything that comes to me. This way I had a lot of fun with TL.
Some of your points: Tron recognizes Sam, because he lost some drops of blood! It's not the eyecontact. At the end Flynn asks Tron "What have you become", so he did remember and regenerated (while falling down). Tron was corrupted by CLU, but not completely take over.
I liked that idea with Flynn's in the digital world. Flynn created it, an what would be more appropriate. It would do it like Flynn has done it. I mean if you swap worlds, the you will appreciate that the environment does not change completely too.
The Light Cycles can't leave the game grit, because they learnt from the first movie: Don't let programs escape that way, so the new light cycles will shut off outside. Logical ;-)
And why shouldn't they be able to jump and choose their angle? They coevolved with video games and so on. Time doesn't stand still in the encom 511 *g*
Hehe, your fake-dialogue of the plot is great! Probably you're right with it and thay really did it that stupid way, but hey, I don't care ;-) TL is a "must like it" thing for me :-)
Well, they had 28 years to think about the story. I must admit, that this father-son conversation was really a bit chopped off, some moment of endurance or relaxation was missing. There was no break for all that action.
With the music... right.... TL was way more darker and the music was very darker too. I wished the first part and TL would have been meeting a bit in the middle. On the other hand, this very dark athmosphere supports the danger of CLU. CLU is the bad guy doning genocide and all this things.. I mean they made him that mean, cause they needed a bad guy. However programs don't have a trade union, so what can they do?
Hope you will see that movie in some time with less expectations and with more delight again ;-)
Greetings user!
Quote from: TFM/FS on 20:57, 10 January 11
Perfection lies always a bit in the eye of one ;-) You can argue parts of it, but probably not the parts that are connected to your taste or so...
Absolutely, I agree.
It's nice to see the discussion about TL as I wasn't interested in seeing it, but now I think I might well have to go to make up my own mind!
Remember flynn is a user, hence he have some user's powers...
He doesn't just look into his eyes, he's cracking his code too...
Eyes contact works like Multiface... ::)
Quote from: mr_lou on 21:22, 10 January 11
I doubt there'll be a 3rd part. Too poor reviews, from what I've heard.
There is going to be a third movie and an animated series too.
I really enjoyed the movie. It's good that they made a sequel rather than a remake.
Just remember it's not supposed to be some real life ocsar winning drama, it's action packed science fiction. I don't pay any attention to reviews of movies (or games) anymore.
My little try.
Cool! I'm thinking of making a CPC Tron before the release of part 3 ;-) Wished I have time enough ;-)
Quote from: TFM/FS on 22:14, 10 January 11
Some of your points: Tron recognizes Sam, because he lost some drops of blood!
Simply not true. Tron realizes Sam is a user yes, but he has no idea who he is. It isn't untill the eye-contact with Sam later, that Tron "wakes up".
Quote from: TFM/FS on 22:14, 10 January 11It's not the eyecontact. At the end Flynn asks Tron "What have you become", so he did remember and regenerated (while falling down).
Flynn doesn't ask Tron anything. Flynn ask that question silently to himself. Tron hears nothing.
It's clear that you're a fan of the movie, so obviously sees things like you want, and that's fine.
Quote from: Amstari link=topic=1633.msg17960#msg17960 date=1294748973Just remember it's not supposed to be some real life ocsar winning drama, it's action packed science fiction. I don't pay any attention to reviews of movies (or games) anymore.
I don't pay attention to reviews either. I always judge for myself. And there are good movies and bad movies. Tron Legacy is not what I'd call a good movie. It's just "ok". But it could have been a great movie if only they'd spent more time putting the logic together. It is the illogical things in the movie that drags it down.
Illogical is fine in other movies. But here where everything happens in The Grid, there should be much more logic.
But I admit I'm picky. There are very few movies I rate as being "good".
But ok. IMDB rating is 7.4, which isn't as bad as it could be. So maybe you're right about a 3rd part.
Quote from: mr_lou on 08:51, 12 January 11
Flynn doesn't ask Tron anything. Flynn ask that question silently to himself. Tron hears nothing.
Well, I must admit I saw the american original, which may be different from the german version... However I take now a look at my TL DVD... moment...
So, Flynn DOES INDEED speat to Tron, you can see his lips moving. Flynn is a use he can do that. Also in the first Tron Flynn saved Yori from deresolution just by touching her.
Flynn is a user, you can't judge his powers... ;-)
About logic... don't question the logic of the movie, we're out of the grid, who do we are to question a user - that's a sacrilege.
But thanks for your comments :-)
Will go and watch it a third time in the 3D cinema on Friday! The more often I see that movie, the more perfect it becomes in my eyes.
A new thing :
I wanted since long to test Arkos Tracker..
i'm debuting... and tried to get Derezzed on Starkos...
Ouch, those trackers are not Noob-friendly...
The tracks are almost OK... but instruments were cannibalized elsewhere so are not optimal...
But it is not properly mixed (the part in right order to compose the song...) because I am starting and learning, and the mix facilities are somewhat...odd on those trackers...
Will try to get this better soon.
So you have to load this from Arkos tracker.
Post edition : ok, here is a temporary mix from Daft Punk's DerAYzzAYd...
Enjoys, the instruments/sounds are not worked yet...
Quote from: MacDeath on 22:11, 13 January 11
A new thing :
I wanted since long to test Arkos Tracker..
i'm debuting... and tried to get Derezzed on Starkos...
Ouch, those trackers are not Noob-friendly...
The tracks are almost OK... but instruments were cannibalized elsewhere so are not optimal...
But it is not properly mixed (the part in right order to compose the song...) because I am starting and learning, and the mix facilities are somewhat...odd on those trackers...
Will try to get this better soon.
So you have to load this from Arkos tracker.
Post edition : ok, here is a temporary mix from Daft Punk's DerAYzzAYd...
Enjoys, the instruments/sounds are not worked yet...
Hey, welcome in the lower night ;-)
Played it with ST-Sound... awesome. We got our first piece of sound for our new game!!!
(I have now to open a history file for our project :-))))
Thx.
But this is a Raw Mix, I don't think it is suitable as it is (instruments/sounds are not especially designed...) But it is not like the Tron project will be released toomorrow... :-\
I used a Guitarpro freeware clone to get the tunes and copied those artisanaly by hand... it is called Tuxguitar.
a patch to import tunes from GuitarPro files directly into Arkos Tracker would be a killer app... :-\
Because there are a lot of stuff (commercial songs) availlable on the internet.
I took the kids into the toy section at the shops today and I found Tron Legacy idenity disks!
(http://home.iprimus.com.au/aherns/DSCN4432.JPG)(http://home.iprimus.com.au/aherns/DSCN4426s.JPG)
This is the disk for Rinzler. They also had one for Sam Flynn and a really cool white one for Kevin Flynn.
Can we have a CPC executable of that music track?
I can't play it with neither of my YM players, and I'm unable to run Arkos Tracker here on Linux.
Er... don't know actually, I'm noob with Arkos Tracker...
It runs well on my AY emulator (speccy oriented...).
I wanted to upload the .Wav but it was far too heavy, and I can't make it into a MP
3 (well, didn't have time for this...)
only Linux ? awww com'on... a good old portable PC with a Windows is always handy...
but you know ? when I get the mix faithfull to the real "DErezzed" tunes... perhaps getting a Video with the visuak in CPc movie (the stuff you do with HDD and Symbiface and Symbos ???) and the song... so a "CPC mockup of the video clip"... would be just too kool (even if faked a bit, not really CPC taken...)
So this in CPC video "format" (sort of) + my soon to be chiptune/port... a good mix to put on the net then...
Quote from: MacDeath on 01:15, 15 January 11only Linux ? awww com'on... a good old portable PC with a Windows is always handy...
For the sake of peace, I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that.
Denmark... ok Norscaman... the fact Linus Thorvald is... Norscand perhaps alter your judgement... ;D
I have no idea what you're talking about.
I do... :D
Post edition :
found this :