iMPdraw v1.0f

[Ast]

Yeaahhhh... 225 download... Thanks!


Just want to know what did you want to add in iMPdraw? Which functions ? What ? Where ?

[Ast]

Any iMPdraw's release ? Not yet ?

[Ast]

Hello,

Next iMPdraw's version (v1.2) will come after the Alchimie 0xb event.
I just Need to assemble the last version and make a dsk file to share it.
Stay tuned !

Bye.

[dodogildo]

Great project! Mouse support anytime soon?

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[Ast]

Great project! Mouse support anytime soon?

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Probably in a next version because it's very difficult to me to make tests without any mouse and interface on my Cpc.
I hope people who wanted this feature won't be angry! 

[dodogildo]

Probably in a next version because it's very difficult to me to make tests without any mouse and interface on my Cpc.

If you somehow manage to build this PS2Mouse - CPCWiki then i think you can test ps2 mice and try to integrate them into your program.


Anybody willing to chip-in or help @Ast with this one?

[CraigsBar]

I am sure @TFM can and will help with symbiface II mouse support, for other mice they simulate a joystick, so as long as you have joystick support with a sensitivity adjuster it should just work.

[TFM]

Probably in a next version because it's very difficult to me to make tests without any mouse and interface on my Cpc.
I hope people who wanted this feature won't be angry! 

Well, let me share my thoughts...

- Joystick compatible mice: They are usually more slow than a joystick. So you can basically use your routines for the joystick, but maybe speed em up a bit.

- Analogue joystick / mice: What do we have? The 6128 Plus analogue joystick and the SF2 mouse. Both provide values for delta-X and delta-Y. So your routines have to move the mouse pointer / cursor for a number of pixels to the left/right and up/down.

* The values for the analogue joystick of the 6128 Plus are between 0 and 63. Now 32 is the middle (no move). 0-31 is one direction, 33-63 is the opposite direction.
However, it's good to ignore values between 28 and 36 (because the analogue joysticks are not so precise in reality)

* For the SF2 mouse you directly can use all provided values, if the mouse does send you a number, you can take it as it is.


There are code examples in the CPC Wiki. 

[Ast]

Ok, thanks but, without mouse expansion, i won't release any iMPdraw's version using the mouse.... If someone wants to give me one to congrate me for the work, it's ok else you'll have to wait i could buy it one.
Programming something without the hardware is not my vision of programming something working well.

[TFM]

1. Sometimes it's time to tell a friend "Check this on your computer". 

2. Sometimes it's needed to use mouse support from an emulator, and then goto 1. 


Which is the most common mouse anyway? How much people are using an analogue joystick for the 6128 Plus at all?

However, the competitors never sleep, if they get mouse support first ... then ... 

[Ast]

Your arguments are valables 
Sometimes need a friend....

[dodogildo]

Folks, what's the most modern way to use a mouse on a real CPC btw? With most program support and usability?

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[CraigsBar]

Folks, what's the most modern way to use a mouse on a real CPC btw? With most program support and usability?

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Most modern (as in proper use of the mouse in hi resolution, scrollwheel etc) is the symbiface 2.
All others just pretend to be a joystick, so provide basic up, down, left, right and 2 (or 3) buttons.

Craig

[dodogildo]

Most modern (as in proper use of the mouse in hi resolution, scrollwheel etc) is the symbiface 2.

Hmm, and the programs like OCP Art Studio or AMX Pagemaker, are they compatible with such a solution? (symbiface 2+ps2 mouse) ?

[Ast]

Hmm, and the programs like OCP Art Studio or AMX Pagemaker, are they compatible with such a solution? (symbiface 2+ps2 mouse) ?

Don't really know.

[CraigsBar]

Hmm, and the programs like OCP Art Studio or AMX Pagemaker, are they compatible with such a solution? (symbiface 2+ps2 mouse) ?

Unfortunately not. Some one here (I think @TFM) talked about patching advanced art studio, so I am sure they can all be modded. I mean arkanoid was patched for the symbiface 2 mouse, and it is awesome!

Once a fully functional ps2 mouse has been used you never want to go back to joystick mice

[CraigsBar]

Just to add. If we are to try and a get an M4X symbiface 2 compatible mouse card made, we do need more software support for it. Please make this one of the first I might even come over all generous and donate a symbiface 2 to you (so long as I can locate a replacement battery for it)

[Ast]

Just to add. If we are to try and a get an M4X symbiface 2 compatible mouse card made, we do need more software support for it. Please make this one of the first I might even come over all generous and donate a symbiface 2 to you (so long as I can locate a replacement battery for it)

In this case i'll do the modification for iMPdraw fore sure. it will be easy to test with a good hardware. thanks.

[dodogildo]

Just to add. If we are to try and a get an M4X symbiface 2 compatible mouse card made, we do need more software support for it.

IMHO, the lack of a widespread mouse solution seems to be the most important (and maybe the only big remaining problem aside from network connectivity) in the CPC scene now...


That's too bad

[TFM]

Right, the SF2 cards are limited. But there are other proportional mouse solutions. An widespread example is the Atari-ST mouse adapter, used mostly in Germany, because it was published in a German computer magazine. One needs just an Atari-ST mouse and a couple of diodes and wires, that's it. So IMHO a valid solution. The problem is that today neiter Atari ST mice nor PS/2 mice (sf2) are common. And all USB mouse solutions are not proportional, Bryce made such things - but joystick compatible.

[CraigsBar]

How does this Atari adaptor get the signal to the CPC, I assume not the joystick port.

[Singaja]

The problem is that today neiter Atari ST mice nor PS/2 mice (sf2) are common.

It's still not really a big deal to get a new(!) PS/2 mouse even if almost everyone is using a usb one nowadays.

[Ast]

Will you be interrested on iMPdraw's Paypal system ? Of course, iMPDraw sould stay free but people who want to greet my work could put money on it via paypal. I've never do a thing like that but why not ?
Please give me your mind ?

[dodogildo]

Will you be interrested on iMPdraw's Paypal system ? Of course, iMPDraw sould stay free but people who want to greet my work could put money on it via paypal. I've never do a thing like that but why not ?
Please give me your mind ?

It's a nice idea.

[TFM]

How does this Atari adaptor get the signal to the CPC, I assume not the joystick port.

Yes, it is the joystick port. The adapter only provides 5 V for the mouse. Of course the signal must be decoded on CPC side, but that's easy. I can provide source in needed. You can use the mouse like with the AtariST itself.