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Title: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 18:26, 27 October 19
Hello everyone!
I open this thread because I am exhaustively trying out many titles for the M4 and I am finding that some of them are unfortunately not compatible. I do this to entice the production of dedicated versions (for mass storage) that can work with this card and thus decrease the incompatibility list. These are some of the incompatible titles, but the list will certainly grow over time! Maybe let's update it together if you want!  ;)

GAMES:
DEMO:=====================
UPDATE - END OF WORK?
At the moment I stop here, having tried hundreds and hundreds of titles for Amstrad CPC! Attached to this post I insert a downloadable .zip file where I have collected more than 1300 titles tested and working on the M4.

Inside the file you will also find the list of titles and other useful files such as various configurations, the SymbOS and the "famous front-end" of rafa 32.  ;D

Thank you all for your cooperation!  :-*

Download file: https://mega.nz/#!VUlU1Y6I!Gsbmj-PHukY0vp-fss8BDSQgOTN1BE1GzE8xUzPNcjE (https://mega.nz/#!VUlU1Y6I!Gsbmj-PHukY0vp-fss8BDSQgOTN1BE1GzE8xUzPNcjE)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Duke on 22:17, 27 October 19
It's a good idea.
Some of the games I may find fun to fix/crack (maybe others will too), but probably there is also versions already working fine of some those.

Ie. Double Dragon works fine, if you get the CACH version from here:
http://cpccrackers.free.fr/Downloads/
(it's a really good resource to find other cracks than those on CPC POWER).

Fairly sure DD 2 also works fine.
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 23:37, 27 October 19
It's a good idea.
Some of the games I may find fun to fix/crack (maybe others will too), but probably there is also versions already working fine of some those.

Ie. Double Dragon works fine, if you get the CACH version from here:
http://cpccrackers.free.fr/Downloads/ (http://cpccrackers.free.fr/Downloads/)
(it's a really good resource to find other cracks than those on CPC POWER).

Fairly sure DD 2 also works fine.

Perfect! Slowly I am updating the list with new titles that are not working. I tried the CACH version of Double Dragon from the CPCCRACKERS site, but it seems to be down. The awful versions of Animagic work well (unfortunately), while those of Binary Design-Mastertronic don't want to know how to work!  :(
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Duke on 08:15, 28 October 19
I tried the CACH version of Double Dragon from the CPCCRACKERS site, but it seems to be down. The awful versions of Animagic work well (unfortunately), while those of Binary Design-Mastertronic don't want to know how to work!  :(
Please check this post, http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/amstrad-cpc-wifi/msg179137/#msg179137
Of course if you do not use the modified lowerrom or set M4 rom to 7, then many games wont work. Also they need 128KB, IIRC.
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Shamice on 18:17, 28 October 19
Thanks for the previous link.I found a version of X-Out that works on the M4  :D cpccrackers.free.fr/Downloads/XOR/X-Out_XOR%284%29.rar
Is there a version of the R-Type Remake (128Kb) operational for the M4 card?
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 19:26, 28 October 19
Thanks for the previous link.I found a version of X-Out that works on the M4  :D cpccrackers.free.fr/Downloads/XOR/X-Out_XOR%284%29.rar
Is there a version of the R-Type Remake (128Kb) operational for the M4 card?
impossible, someone would have to check out the game to make it compatible with the M4
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Duke on 20:23, 28 October 19
GAMES:
  • Cabal
  • Double Dragon (Binary Design-Virgin-Melbourne House)
  • Double Dragon 2 - The Revenge (Virgin-Mastertronic)
  • Double Dragon 3
  • Dragon Spirit
  • Final Fight
  • Flimbo's Quest (Kino&Hufo version run with bug)
  • Hudson Hawk
All of the above work in the (mainly) XOR versions from the Amstrad Games CD ->
http://www.amstrad.es/cpcgamescd/

Probably most of the games on the list are there and working (I stopped testing after those).
It's a must have collection for M4 board as almost all the games in it are proper cracked versions that work fine (may need modified lowerrom or set M4 rom as 7).
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 20:40, 28 October 19
Please check this post, http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/amstrad-cpc-wifi/msg179137/#msg179137 (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/amstrad-cpc-wifi/msg179137/#msg179137)
Of course if you do not use the modified lowerrom or set M4 rom to 7, then many games wont work. Also they need 128KB, IIRC.

Ok, I realized I had some problems and maybe I'm not able to solve them due to lack of technical ability. I will try to make you understand my situation. I use the M4 without the online support. I prepared the M4 to work with the Targhan frontend, which allows you to access the list of games and upload them directly from there. The focal point is that I don't think I understand what it means to set the M4 with "modified lowerrom or set M4 rom to 7". Sorry for my obvious incapacity ... :(
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: villain on 20:48, 28 October 19
All of the above work in the (mainly) XOR versions from the Amstrad Games CD ->
http://www.amstrad.es/cpcgamescd/


Slightly off-topic, but does anybody know if there will ever be an updated version of the CPCGamesCD? @MiguelSky (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Duke on 21:44, 28 October 19
Ok, I realized I had some problems and maybe I'm not able to solve them due to lack of technical ability. I will try to make you understand my situation. I use the M4 without the online support.
Ok, here is a modified lowerrom installer I just made. It is for CPC 6128 and it is the English lowerrom it installs.

Just copy the file to your microSD card and from Basic:
RUN"M4LOW-EN.BIN"

It will ask you to press M4 reset (or power cycle) when it's installed.

If anything goes wrong, put the microSD card into a PC and delete from folder M4 the files ROMCONFIG.BIN and ROMSLOTS.BIN to set it back to default settings.

If everything goes as planned it should have installed the modified lowerrom into romslot 31 and you can run all the games (almost) \o/
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Duke on 22:13, 28 October 19
And while I am at it....

Here is an installer for CPC464 users, that will:
Install Basic 1.1 and corresponding lower rom (English version!).
And for best compatiblity it will set M4 rom to 7.

Just copy the attached file ROMUP464.BIN to your microSD card and from Basic type:
RUN"ROMUP464.BIN


It will ask you to press M4 reset (or power cycle) when it's installed.

If anything goes wrong, put the microSD card into a PC and delete from folder M4 the files ROMCONFIG.BIN and ROMSLOTS.BIN to set it back to default settings.

If everything goes as planned your CPC464 will now display Basic 1.1.
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 22:39, 28 October 19
Ok, here is a modified lowerrom installer I just made. It is for CPC 6128 and it is the English lowerrom it installs.

Just copy the file to your microSD card and from Basic:
RUN"M4LOW-EN.BIN"

It will ask you to press M4 reset (or power cycle) when it's installed.

If anything goes wrong, put the microSD card into a PC and delete from folder M4 the files ROMCONFIG.BIN and ROMSLOTS.BIN to set it back to default settings.

If everything goes as planned it should have installed the modified lowerrom into romslot 31 and you can run all the games (almost) \o/

Ooookei! The file works really well and I'm really very happy for that, thank you very much. :D

I would say to leave the thread open and update the list with the versions that work in such a way as to increasingly skim the list of incompatibilities!

Do you have the French keyboard layout file? Installing this changed all the keystrokes! :doh:
__________________

P.S. - I updated the list! Now those that are left out are really a handful of titles and some of them are multi-disc games that are not supported by M4 (correct?). Obviously I invite everyone to report games, programs and demos not working with M4, maybe in the future we will be able to have 100% compatibility with this fantastic card! Thank you all! :-*
 
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: MiguelSky on 05:52, 29 October 19
Slightly off-topic, but does anybody know if there will ever be an updated version of the CPCGamesCD? @MiguelSky (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14)
I'd like to launch another one at the end of the year, when CPCRetroDev games have been released. Thank you for the interest :)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: TotO on 07:43, 29 October 19
Chany released a lot of games as "files versions" into the past, probably the R-TYPE (128K) one will works with mass-storage if you can found it.
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Duke on 08:55, 29 October 19
Do you have the French keyboard layout file? Installing this changed all the keystrokes! :doh:

Just assembled with French and Spanish modifed lowerrom's aswell. Attached to this post.

Quote
P.S. - I updated the list! Now those that are left out are really a handful of titles and some of them are multi-disc games that are not supported by M4 (correct?). Obviously I invite everyone to report games, programs and demos not working with M4, maybe in the future we will be able to have 100% compatibility with this fantastic card! Thank you all! :-*

Cool.
Multi-disc games are supported, currently you will need to either:
1) use Web Interface to change the DISC (may add this feature to HACK menu sometime).
OR
2) Extract all the files from both discs into the same directory and run the game from there (use |DSKX ...)

Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 11:03, 29 October 19
Just assembled with French and Spanish modifed lowerrom's aswell. Attached to this post.

Cool.
Multi-disc games are supported, currently you will need to either:
1) use Web Interface to change the DISC (may add this feature to HACK menu sometime).
OR
2) Extract all the files from both discs into the same directory and run the game from there (use |DSKX ...)
Thanks again Duke, now everything works great! :D

I found the version of R-Type Reload (by Chany) that works on the M4, placed here the file in download. To make it work, insert it in the root of the sd, then enter the folder and type RUN"RTYPE. Have fun! ;)

For Shadow of Sergoth instead I can't extract the files because inside the dsk many of them have the same name! ::)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 11:51, 29 October 19
I have tried to run that version of R-Type from the M4 board and it does not finish loading, I get this message " Inserez Le disc 2 Face 1 ", and and then try to read from the floppy drive  :o
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 12:04, 29 October 19
I have tried to run that version of R-Type from the M4 board and it does not finish loading, I get this message " Inserez Le disc 2 Face 1 ", and and then try to read from the floppy drive  :o
I honestly don't know, I use Thargan's frontend to upload files directly into folders and it works! ::)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 12:18, 29 October 19
I honestly don't know, I use Thargan's frontend to upload files directly into folders and it works! ::)
Where can I get that "Thargan's frontend"? , Thank you  :)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: TotO on 12:28, 29 October 19
and then try to read from the floppy drive  :o
Because R-TYPE "RELOAD"  :laugh:
I don't know who found this strange name... It is not related to the game.  :-\
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 12:57, 29 October 19
Because R-TYPE "RELOAD"  :laugh:
I don't know who found this strange name... It is not related to the game.  :-\
Sorry, Reloaded! font by CPCRULEZ! ;D
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: TotO on 12:59, 29 October 19
Reloaded, Enhanced, Bullshitted, ...  :laugh:  But no link with the good name + year.
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 13:12, 29 October 19
Where can I get that "Thargan's frontend"? , Thank you  :)
The site to download the frontend is the address:

http://rafa32gr.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com/wordpress/m4-explorer/

and the necessary files to insert in the root of the SD

rafa32gr.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com/ftp/m4v1/m4.bas
rafa32gr.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com/ftp/m4v1/rutinas.bin
rafa32gr.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com/ftp/m4v1/tracker.bin

After inserting these three files into the root, create another folder and rename it "Games" (or whatever the hell you want) by inserting the files in your favorite games into it. Disconnect the SD card from the PC, insert it into the M4 and switch back to the CPC. Now type RUN"M4 and the frontend will load, showing you this screen:

(see attached screen)

The arrow keys enjoyed to navigate, ENTER to enter the folder (and inside the dsk files), with the U key you will return to the previous directory and with the R key you will load your games, nothing simpler ... have fun! ;)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 13:17, 29 October 19
aaaaah .. that's the M4 explorer frontrend from Rafa32   :laugh:
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 13:19, 29 October 19
aaaaah .. that's the M4 explorer frontrend from Rafa32   :laugh:
Yesss...  :D
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 13:22, 29 October 19
Reloaded, Enhanced, Bullshitted, ...  :laugh:  But no link with the good name + year.
R-TYPE (2012)?  :)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 15:32, 03 November 19
Hello everyone!
I open this thread because I am exhaustively trying out many titles for the M4 and I am finding that some of them are unfortunately not compatible. I do this to entice the production of dedicated versions (for mass storage) that can work with this card and thus decrease the incompatibility list. These are some of the incompatible titles, but the list will certainly grow over time! Maybe let's update it together if you want!  ;)

GAMES:
  • Baby Jo - Going Home
  • Bob Winner
  • Double Dragon "good version" (run, but small graphic bugs at the top and bottom of the screen)
  • Eagle's Rider
  • Fiendish Freddy's Big Top O' Fun
  • Fres Fighter II Turbo
  • Exterminator
  • Galaxy Force
  • Imperial Majong
  • Little Computer People Discovery Kit
  • Mega Twins (Demo)
  • Megablasters
  • Megablasters: Escape from Castle in the Cloud
  • Mystical
  • Orion Prime
  • Targhan
  • The Bard's Tale
  • The Shadows of Sergoth
  • Wonder Boy (Tried all the dumps. They work, but there is a random bug that corrupts the soundtrack. It happens only on the M4.)
  • Xyphoes Fantasy
DEMO:
  • 30 Years Amstrad Megademo
  • Batman Forever
  • Pheelone
  • Phortem
  • Phreaks
In the first post you will find the updated list of non-functioning games on the M4.

At the moment I stop here, having tried hundreds and hundreds of titles for Amstrad CPC! Attached to this post I insert a downloadable .zip file where I have collected more than 1300 titles tested and working on the M4.

Inside the file you will also find the list of titles and other useful files such as various configurations, the SymbOS and the "famous front-end" of rafa 32.  ;D

Thank you all for your cooperation!  :-*

Download file:
http://www.filedropper.com/m4backup (http://www.filedropper.com/m4backup)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Duke on 20:26, 04 November 19
At the moment I stop here, having tried hundreds and hundreds of titles for Amstrad CPC! Attached to this post I insert a downloadable .zip file where I have collected more than 1300 titles tested and working on the M4.
Thanks for your dedication, that is an impressive amount you have tested.

I will probably go through some of the games in your first post when I find time.

Quote
Download file:
http://www.filedropper.com/m4backup (http://www.filedropper.com/m4backup)

And thanks for sharing, I will put the link in the M4 documentation!
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 22:58, 04 November 19
Thanks for your dedication, that is an impressive amount you have tested.

I will probably go through some of the games in your first post when I find time.

And thanks for sharing, I will put the link in the M4 documentation!
Thank you for creating the M4 board! ;)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Ast on 22:24, 09 November 19
Hi !


Can some people tell me if it is possible to send files into mail from m4 ?


Thanks.
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: robcfg on 22:47, 09 November 19
You'll need a mail client on the CPC for that.


Time for iMPMail?  :D
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 17:32, 10 November 19
Hi !


Can some people tell me if it is possible to send files into mail from m4 ?


Thanks.

There is a mail tool WIP for Symbos, I don't know if this is what you are looking for?

https://youtu.be/xw_32K2qF5g
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Duke on 23:28, 05 December 19
Download file:
http://www.filedropper.com/m4backup (http://www.filedropper.com/m4backup)
backup since link is not working anymore.
https://www.spinpoint.org/M4backup.zip (https://www.spinpoint.org/M4backup.zip)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Mr. DVG on 02:12, 06 December 19
backup since link is not working anymore.
https://www.spinpoint.org/M4backup.zip (https://www.spinpoint.org/M4backup.zip)

Thanks for reporting Duke, I will continue to report non-functioning games with the M4 in the first post of the topic (my work continues and in a month I will post a new update).  :)
Also in the first post I changed the link to download, this time on MEGA, which seems much more reliable!  ;)
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: dimdim80 on 15:33, 27 September 20
Ok, here is a modified lowerrom installer I just made. It is for CPC 6128 and it is the English lowerrom it installs.

Just copy the file to your microSD card and from Basic:
RUN"M4LOW-EN.BIN"

It will ask you to press M4 reset (or power cycle) when it's installed.

If anything goes wrong, put the microSD card into a PC and delete from folder M4 the files ROMCONFIG.BIN and ROMSLOTS.BIN to set it back to default settings.

If everything goes as planned it should have installed the modified lowerrom into romslot 31 and you can run all the games (almost) \o/


I did as you explain,installed with no errors and still cannot get after the initial screen.Tested Roland in time,Roland in space,Rick dangerous,Rick Dangerous 128+ Remake,Rick dangerous 2.
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: Duke on 20:05, 27 September 20

I did as you explain,installed with no errors and still cannot get after the initial screen.Tested Roland in time,Roland in space,Rick dangerous,Rick Dangerous 128+ Remake,Rick dangerous 2.
Try the versions from here, they are almost guaranteed to work:
http://cngsoft.no-ip.org/cpc_lzx.htm

But tbh. it sounds like you may have some other issue, have you tried connecting ONLY the M4 board and not other peripherals?
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: dimdim80 on 20:53, 27 September 20
Try the versions from here, they are almost guaranteed to work:
http://cngsoft.no-ip.org/cpc_lzx.htm (http://cngsoft.no-ip.org/cpc_lzx.htm)

But tbh. it sounds like you may have some other issue, have you tried connecting ONLY the M4 board and not other peripherals?


yes i have installed only M4board.And again refuse to play.But from the site link you gave me  works ok.So i guess it is the dsk file problem?
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: SOS on 07:57, 29 September 20
And again refuse to play.But from the site link you gave me  works ok.So i guess it is the dsk file problem?

This DSK is copy-protected (no BC77 use), so it cant be run from M4-Card (/MassStorage's)
Please use another DSK
Title: Re: The compatibility of the M4 card...
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 09:13, 30 September 20
@dimdim80 (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1947) hi !!

ftp://amstrad.serveftp.com/incoming/Epidemiom%20M4-HFE%20v900.rar (ftp://amstrad.serveftp.com/incoming/Epidemiom%20M4-HFE%20v900.rar)     [ user: amstrad , pass: amstrad ]

Here is a lot of games compatible with M4 too  8)