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<div style="margin-top:32px;text-align:center;padding:5px 0px 4px 0px;background-color:#ffc0c0;border:1px solid #ffc0c0;">'''Math:ATTENTION!''' Today I wanted to add some formulas (very simple!) to describe <br />This talk page should '''only''' be used for discussions about the mathmatic background of a routine'''Main Page''' and the '''Side Bar'''. Are <mathbr /> Tags supported? --For general CPCWiki related discussions please use the [[User:Octoate|OctoateDiscussion]] 21:18page.<br />For suggestions of completely new sections and features, 9 August 2006 (CEST)please use the [[Suggestions]] page.----</div>

* '''Menu:''' The menu entry "In short - history" nearly contains all necessary informations about the different CPC models. Maybe we can delete the entries for the different models and add For older talks please have a new entry for look at the technical informations (CRTC, GateArray, etc.). What do you think about it?:I completely agree with it. We should group it in a technical specifications article. -- [[UserTalk:ProdatronMain_Page/Archive1|ProdatronArchive]] 17:04, 9 August 2006 (CEST):Or maybe we just group the "old generation", so we have 2 or 3 entries? Don't know... -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 17:09, 9 August 2006 (CEST)::Hmm, but wouldn't it better if the informations are collected in one article (less mouseclicks -> I'm lazy ;)). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 21:18, 9 August 2006 (CEST)----

'''Adding templates:''' We should add some templates to mark articles for e.g. deletion. You can see == Forum ==Today the reason for the need for templates if you have a look at the article about [[Beau Jolly]]. You can find examples for that kind of templates in the original wiki (http://enwww.wikipediacpcwiki.orgeu/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages)forum Forum] opened its gates.:Hmmm I'm not really sure what you mean... the Beau Jolly page is a harmless prank - at least I consider felt it so at this point. If and when was necessary because the wiki gets bigger and to such a size that systematic patrolling discussion system of the Wiki is needed, then I think we can start putting some mechanisms into placenot adequate... For now, just reading the changes and glancing at the pages It is surely enough? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 14:07, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::I not meant the template signs of Wikipedia to simply add warning, etc. Here is an direct example of some different marks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Disputes We don't need all signs, of coursereplace every talk page, but some to easily mark articles for deletion or for the need of an improvement would be nice (no automatic robots - just to mark the articles). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 14:24, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::Ah, that's interesting now... I'll have to see how to implement them - unless you got some idea? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 14:53, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::::I think they can just be added with copy & paste!? --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:06, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::::I made a test with the [[Beau Jolly]] article. Unfortunately you can't do simple copy & paste because of all the internal links in the Wikipedia templates. Maybe someone can improve it. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 16:57, 7 August 2006 (CEST):I would like to see templates for different categories of software ''e.g.'' games, demos, applications, like the information boxes one sees on Wikipedia for computer games - see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spindizzy_(computer_game) Wikipedia's entry on ''Spindizzy''] as an example. The problem good for me at the moment is that I don't know how to create complex tables and boxes in wiki markup at the moment! general discussion topics :-( [[User:Nich|Nich]] 17:31, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::I added the template for the game info boxes ([[Template:Infobox CVG]]), but currently the "parser functions" like #if: don't seem to work. --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 18:44, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::Ok, I found the page which explains the installation of the "ParserFunctions" extension. It have to be installed to get the template working: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions#Installation --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 18:51, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::Mmmm just installed it -at least the relevant files. But, how about this line:::: <pre>require_once( "$IP/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php" );</pre>,:::it says it has to go to the end of LocalSettings.php. But if I do place it there (before the closing tag), it breaks the whole wiki... darn. Will try to look into it. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 2009:3206, 7 August 22 November 2006 (CESTCET)----

There is a little problem with the pages linked only in the sidebar: More file extensions allowed nowthey only appear on the default mediawiki theme. You can actually upload zip, rar (preferred due to better compression), pdf and mp3 (for all those tape conversions!). Nevertheless, can't .There is a manual be copied as txt? list here: [[Userspecial:Gryzor|Gryzorlonelypages]] 09Link them from somewhere else :00, 6 August 2006 (CEST)----

::Ah yes, you're right and I have noticed it myself - though I don''Real names with t know why anyone would use some other theme, I think this is the pseudonym?best by far :D Anyhow, I''' Shall we add the real names m just waiting to the scene-informations as we know it? Maybe itmove servers, when this is done I's very helpfull to add the real name to remember the personsll look after such details. So in my case i will add "Kangaroo MusiQue (Thorsten Norman Mitschele). What do you think about that? . thanks for pointing out!!! [[User:KangarooGryzor|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTGryzor]] 0910:4803, 5 August 28 July 2006 (CESTCDT)

:Well, absolutely, why not? I mean, there's nothing stopping you doing so anyway, :There is still 14 orphaned pages... and in general i prefer using another theme because i use a real name would be welcome indeed, to go with the pseudonymbrowser without css support... Maybe a photo too And what is the difference between [[Applications]] and Utilities ?:::You are right, I will move the Utilities to the Apps and mark them to be deleted! --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 10:13, 11 August 2006 (CEST)

'''Moving the As I still don´t understand why we have two search''' field a bit more to windows I repeat the question if we really need them both? ;-) --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 17:08, 28 August 2006 (CEST):Yup. The second one (the top one) was added when the sidebar was so tall that the lower search field was out of the left menu screen. Now the sidebar is too short, but it will be niceprobably grow again.... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 18:22, so its easier to search articles without scrolling around28 August 2006 (CEST):: hey. Hope you can do that PLEAAAASE . i'm just waiting for someone who tells me.. REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field and.. booom.. it will be gone :-) D [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] :::Hey Kanga, REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second search field! --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 21:04, 28 August 2006 (CEST)::::Don´t know if anybody else already told you but: REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 21:09, 28 August 2006 (CEST):36:::Ok, 5 have noticed the Wink with the Zaunpfahl :-) and i will do my job tomorrow, if i find time :-):::::Ok, I removed it. Happy, y'all? :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:00, 29 August 2006 (CEST):::::Ahh Gryzor did it :) So what? [[User:81.90.35.80|81.90.35.80]] 11:20, 24 September 2006 (CEST)

:That would be nice - I think it should be higher, too. The problem is, this has to do with the skin, == Mainpage and I'm not yet as comfortable with customising it... if someone knows how, please step forward! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 16:48, 5 August 2006 (CEST)----Sidebar ==

TBH I think it would like Gryzors rollback of the sidebar, as all the important main links should be nice mentioned there to have a menu link to technical documentation and sourcecode (routine collection) on the left sidefast access from every point inside CPCWiki. You then can put articles like 'Hardware scrollingWith an usual screen resolution you should see the complete main part of the sidebar, so I don' in this categoriest see any problem with its length... --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:14, 3 July 2006 (CDT)

: ThatRegarding the main page, what's about redesigning it a really good idea - it would be nice to be able to post source code here..little bit in the way of most other Wikis like Wikipedia? The main page shouldn't contain the complete site map.I like the style of Wikipedia much more. --[[User:ChaRleyTroniCProdatron|ChaRleyTroniCProdatron]] 1716:0029, 3 July 29 August 2006 (CDTCEST)

: Indeed itWell, I differ in my opinion with yours. I don's t like a nice ideabig sidebar and prefer a good main page which can bring me directly to the different stuff in the Wiki, because you have much more room there to give a good entry point. Btw, I only use 1024x768 and I thought about so I see it upon looking at till "Software-Programming" in the source code provided over at the Zone. Will add a link when sidebar (ok, will change if I get back from work :a new notebook someday ;) ). Anyway, I will join the majority =). -- [[User:GryzorOctoate|GryzorOctoate]] 2219:3554, 3 July 29 August 2006 (CDTCEST)

:::"Software-Programming" is your last visible entry? 8-O Maybe you choosed a font size of 300% and installed the Google, Yahoo and MSN toolbars at the same time? ;-)) My last entry is "Editing help", well, with 1280x1024. Ok, the sidebar could be still optimized, maybe we can move "About -contribute" to the end (it should be also mentioned on the start page) and remove "PD libraries" as an example (not so important for having an own entry point here IMHO). -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 20:26, 29 August 2006 (CEST)

:::: Here at work I use 2560x1024, so there is no problem here. Maybe its possible to make I will use a list of all softwaresmaller font size and buy some glasses for my notebook ;-houses like Ocean) --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 10:52, Alligata etc. Where we can add some nice informations about those companies?30 August 2006 (CEST)

: You can actually add a link yourself. If you go into :The [[Games]] section you can add a link about [[Software Houses]] and start adding. Maybe reason I will add rolled it back to a more expanded list (though I condensed the sidebar as well :CPC models) - [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 22:35is that, 3 July 2006 if it's not like that, then surely there's no reason in having a Sidebar? 8) Though I understand that on some resolutions (CDTare you really on '''1024'''?? :D )the entire SIdebar may not be visible, I think that removing it altogether is much worse than having one that doesn't show in its entirety!

:: Concerning the main page, now, it should not be the only launching page -the user should not need to get to the homepage in order to jump to a different category, hence the use of the Sidebar. On the other hand I find it '''much more useful''' as it is right now, than like it was before, though it can be improved somewhat ---I'll agree with Prodatron in that it looks somewhat 'dry' right now.[[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:05, 29 August 2006 (CEST)

::: Oh come on.. wich BAST)(&" has modified the Sidebar again to that really useless and annoying list of unwanted links :-D Why does dont use the crap keep getting posted at mainpage AND the bottom SEARCH to find content, instead of adding things wild, unorganized and useless to the main page... bloody spammers! sidebar?? [[User:ExecutionerKangaroo|ExecutionerKangaroo MusiQue of HJT]]21:49, 29 August 2006 (CEST)

:Indeed... I ::: You and Octo have noticed your work (you always get to it faster than me!)mainpage, and I really thank you for thatGryzor and me have our sidebar. This Everyone is what you get for allowing posts without registering, but I think it's worth it continuing like this, at least for a while, and see how it goes... Thanks so much! happy now :-P -- [[User:GryzorProdatron|GryzorProdatron]] 0221:1658, 22 July 29 August 2006 (CDTCEST)

::::: =) ----[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 10:52, 30 August 2006 (CEST)

Hi, if :::: I add a JPG with the '|thumb' command, it doesn't show think it´s useful to have some more things on the page (eSidebar than before. But now it´s too much... As Prodi already said PD libraries should be kicked out, also clones and some others too.g. [[CPC Schneider International]]). What am I doing wrong? --[[User:OctoateVillain|OctoateVillain]] 0121:0257, 5 29 August 2006 (CEST)

:I also think, that the "thumb" feature is not working yet. :::: Sounds good! -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 0321:1858, 5 29 August 2006 (CEST)

: I'm having troubles with the permissions on the server. The Wiki needs the image folder :::: It did it in this way and moved "contribute" to be chmod'ed to 777, but some of the subfolders do not have full access yetend. I'm trying to chmod all of themIs it better now? Btw, but how do can I make sure that clear the newly created ones will be 777cache? -- [[User:GryzorProdatron|GryzorProdatron]] 0822:3804, 5 29 August 2006 (CEST)

:::: The Bastard is me, I would guess. As I said, the reason for rolling it back is that under the short form, there is simply NO NEED for the sidebar. The sidebar is there for the reader to be able to navigate quickly to all parts of the wiki without having to go to the main page. It is NOT useless, certainly NOT unwanted (I use it all the time instead of the main page links) and I doubt it's annoying - the space is empty if you need help or Shell-Access don't put links there, so it goes wasted. The Main Page is NOT the place to put links on and is much harder to use than the server sidebar. Unorganized? I wouldn't think so - the structure is quite ok right now, if anyone can think of ways to improve it, please do chmod -r comands on dirsstep forward. It's not even wild, just give me since it has been tamed a call lot since its first appearance, and i will set definitely not unorganized - see the little boxes that organise it up for you. ? :p [[User:KangarooGryzor|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTGryzor]] 09:2749, 5 30 August 2006 (CEST)

I was so free and reorganized the complete main page into the usual "wiki style".So the complete link list ("CPCWiki portal") has its own page now -we should improve this page, that nearly all articels can be found there directly or indirectly.Regarding the new main page maybe we can add even more sections like "article of the month" or something like this. ---[[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 02:40, 1 September 2006 (CEST)

:Great. I think it will be a good idea to do localisation. So i can add or translate Pages into german, cause my english writing is not that good as needed for like the wiki. I'll do my best, but hey.. there are a few users around wich cannot write nor read english, so it will be a help for themnew wikilike design. What do you think about localisation? --[[User:KangarooOctoate|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTOctoate]] 09:3158, 5 August 1 September 2006 (CEST)

:: I would be a little bit afraid, am pleased to hear that this could split ! We just need to take care about the up our forces-to-dateness. As an example, every one, as it who is inserting a lot additional work. Maybe people would start writing only new entry in their native languagesthe news section should also update the main page. Better I would also like to have an article in bad english (suggest and add some guidelines, which can be corrected by other people) than having it only describe, what and how to add entries to the different sections in a "local" language (which can't be read by other people). But that's just my opinionthe main page to prevent uncontrolled growth. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 1316:1224, 5 August 1 September 2006 (CEST)

::: I have the same opinion like Prodatron. Itthe new layout as well, it's much more work meaningful and both Wikis will be different. You nicely put, although I think it can see an example for that situation on the [httpuse a little cleaning over time ://wiki) I'm a bit confused as to how news etc works, though, it currently seems to be all over the place and it's difficult to maintain it for someone who doesn't know exactly how.gp2x.org GP2X Wiki] and this device has a much bigger userbase. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:37, 1 September 2006 (CEST):::: Regarding the news I guess will write a suggestion for the most common language should guidline how to insert new news. In general you have a headline, which have to be usedplaced to the news (max 10 entries), so we should write greekthe news archive (unlimited) and the main page (max 3 entries).... aehm... english ;-The headline is the article name where you write the news itself + links to the source and the category (month). --[[User:OctoateProdatron|OctoateProdatron]] 1520:5758, 5 August 1 September 2006 (CEST)

: I think == Main picture of the main page ==Gryzor, why have you modified the photo of the main page with the ancient one ? If this was discussed beforewiki is related to cpc, i guess it's not only the cpc 464 and the whole cpc range is concerned... I'm not against content in other languagesAlmost the 464 photo seemd truncated and overlayed by a line. Longshot --[[User:195.154.167.66|195.154.167.66]] 14:53, but 23 November 2006 (CET) You have reverted modification without any answer about my contrib here about that...Iwon'm worried this will lead t to lots waste time to update this picture again. Gryzor, you're the main contributor of content being in Frenchthis site but i think your method is not fair, German or Spanish, hence for especially on a limited audiencesite built mainly by contributors.--[[User:Longshot|Longshot]] 13:17, 24 November 2006 (CET) : Well. So I was thinking that maybe reverted it should be allowed as long as an english translation to the older version because I assumed there is providedsomething wrong with the image, that's all. In any caseFor some reason the "range" photo won't appear, maybe we can allow and I tried it with fromt wo different computers and different browsers. Can you try reuploading the provision that this willimage under a new filename and changing the main page? Also, eventuallythe 464 pic does appear fine for me - tried with Firefox, be translatedOpera, IE. But if we As you can see that no translations are done, then maybe it shouldn't continues not a matter of being 'unfair' - it's a technical issue, despite the fact that I like the 464 one better :):PS try to remember to log in before doing any changes... . :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 1619:3836, 5 August 24 November 2006 (CESTCET) :: Sorry for the misunderstanding. About the range photo it's strange because i dont think its clever 've any problem with ie or firefox (my personal pc) or crazy browser on my professional pc. This picture is a scan i'd modified in 2001 and coming from my site. I've compressed the picture with a newer version of image ready from 53kb to do it that way so it will be better 29.2 kb and i try to have only english as main languageupload it again under a new name. Please let me know if the problem also will beoccurs again...--[[User:Longshot|Longshot]] 11:46, that the content will move away in different languages26 November 2006 (CET) ::: It appears ok now, so information will be vailable in german but are not at I scaled the english page and so on. dont know how thumbnail down a bit because it can be handled was a big too big... thanks![[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 18:11, 26 November 2006 (CET) == CPC taking a day off == Is the CPC still in vacation? ;-) Maybe we could remove the picture, to have everything with make the same content info boxes below accessible in different languagesa better way again. Are maybe someone has an idea for an other cool frontpage motive? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 22:36, 18 September 2007 (CEST)