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The following pointer based HID hardware should be removed from the list of "supported hardware". This hardware is not suported by the "os" itself, as applications can't use or access it by themself with the help of fos. This hardware is (if at all) only used by a sub-program, the fileselector module. The support itself is not an "OS feature" at all. So if you call fos an "OS" it's not possible to mention this hardware as "supported".
<br>Please correct me, if I am wrong. Otherwise the following sections should be removed.
<br>'''Graphic Tablet''' <br>
*Hegetron [[Grafpad II|Grafpad II]]
'''Joysticks<br>''' <br> *Analog Joystick (6128 Plus) *Digital Joystick 1
*Digital Joystick 2
'''Light-Pens<br>''' <br> *[[Dk'tronics Lightpen|Dk'tronics]] *Happy-Computer
*Lindy
'''Mouses'''
<br> *[[AMX Mouse|AMX_Mouse]] *[[Atari-ST mouse adapter|Atari ST]] (Schneider Magazin) *CPC-Mousepack (Reisware) *CPC-Mousepack 2.0 (Reisware) *Geos (c64)
*[[SYMBiFACE II:PS/2 mouse|PS/2 mouse]] (Symbiface)
'''Trackballs'''
<br> *[[Atari-ST mouse adapter|Atari ST]] (Schneider Magazin)
*[[Marconi|Marconi]]
[[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 02:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Indeed you are wrong, all these devices are supported by FutureOS, just connect it to the CPC. You can use them to control the Desktop or for foreigen programs. Naturally the Plus devices (analogue joystick etc.) are only usable by a CPC Plus. All devices can be accesseb by OS routines. See documentation. So I have to correct your updates, because they are just wrong. And by the way I'm waiting for an excuse for your insulting phrases. [[TFM|TFM]].
::There is (or at least there was) no way to ask for the X and Y position of the mouse pointer in an application. Or can you tell me, why the Grafpad can't be used in GMSK? If the OS would provide a general pointer-based HID support, the application doesn't need to take care if there is a joystick, a mouse or a grafpad connected. Anyway there are no functions available for an application, where these devices can be used. [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 18:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
There is no sense in using a graphic tablet in a sprite converter like GMSK. But if you like this function included I can do that for you. The Grafpad is for entering graphical data or for fast selection. There is a routine (read ROM a documentation) which provide the desired features, it deals with keyboard and different joysticks. Only for the Grafpad there is at the moment no application available, but why don't you make one? [[TFM|TFM]].
However, this is NOT the question. FutureOS supports the Graphpad and the other applications. So please let me restore the article now. [[TFM|TFM]].
:::Not the OS supports it but the file selector module. This doesn't help me in an application at all. Or is Fos only a program starter? If it's only a program starter, then I am fine with the "support" list. Somehow it seems, that you don't know, what an OS is at all? [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 21:25, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
<br>The following hardware doesn't seem to be supported as well:
<br> *[[CPC Booster|CPC Booster(+)]] *HD64180 Coprocessor card
*IDE hard discs (173 KB/s with [[IDE8255|IDE8255]], 162 KB/s with [[CPC-IDE|CPC-IDE]] or [[SYMBiFACE II|SYMBiFACE II]])
Regarding the last one, there maybe routines for reading and writing some single sectors (btw. such small routines can be downloaded here: [[SYMBiFACE II:IDE routines|SYMBiFACE_II:IDE_routines]] ;-)). This is a feature of a BIOS, not of an OS. Both IDE interfaces are still completely useless for applications in Fos, as long as they don't implement the filesystem by themself (which would be quite crazy of course).
<br>Regarding the Rom expansions, I don't understand the reason, why they are listed, too? Only because of the fact, that Fos requires 4 roms to be able to run? The other thing is, that they are all compatible, so it's senseless to list them all. It would be the same like mentioning all Atari-compatible Digital-Joysticks (Competition Pro, Quickshot, Jet Fighter etc.) in the Joystick section. Seems, that these entries are only for blowing up the list.
<br>[[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 13:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
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:Again you're wrong. The IDE support is in the IDE ROM of FutureOS. Everybody can download it. The CPC Booster support is maybe few, but no questioin still existing in the core OS ROMs.
:Further CBM is DEFINITLY a part of the OS. As the programmer of FutureOS I know it better than a person who wants again to fight aginst a concurent OS. I have also to revert the text.
::No, CBM is not a part of Fos :-) It is a piece of source code which has to be copied into the source code of the application. Would you say, that all RSX extensions ever developed in history are "a part" of Locomotive Basic, and would you list all these in the Locomotive Basic article?? No, definitely not! [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 18:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::Hello? You want to know it better than the programmer? If CBM is not a part of FutureOS, then is sos not existing at all. Do you know what you say? Think about this!
:And please stop insulting me and FutureOS. Since you feel insulted by every piece of dust, you should better know how to deal with words. You behave here like a little child that tries to beat up the toy of another child. And sorry for any insults, if I made some by accident with out even knowing. [[TFM|TFM]].
:''So, first you call someone a child and then you say 'sorry! I didn't know I'm insulting you'?? Consider this a warning, a blip more out of your fingers and you're banned for a couple of weeks before this turns into yet another flame. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]]''
