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Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« on: 01:06, 26 September 12 »
Are they grey keyed 464s rare? Just wondering if it's worth a trip to Cork to pick this one up?
http://www.adverts.ie/other-computers/amstrad-cpc-464-games-accessories/2128047

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #1 on: 01:48, 26 September 12 »
For me it is like a Schneider CPC with an AMSTRAD chassis ... but I think other people in this forum will give you a better answer ..... ::)

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #2 on: 01:50, 26 September 12 »
Funny, it looks like a CPC464 with a Schneider CPC keyboard and tape drive.


Though as far as I remember, the Schneider ones have a QWERTZ keyboard instead of a QWERTY one.


Anyway, seems like a good lot to get, with lot of games.


That's my two cents  ;)

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #3 on: 04:40, 26 September 12 »
From various things I have read over the years this is my understanding of the "grey keyed" 464's (may not be correct).
 
These are essentially the later model 464 German Schneider models.
 
As I understand it, when the Schneider / Amstrad relationship finished towards the end of the CPC's life the remaining grey keboards were shipped in Amstrad badged cases...mostly still in Germany but from things I have read some of them were shipped around europe, I suppose just to use up the stock.
 
I have only seen them in the UK and I think Spain, but only the odd one.
 
Not sure on how rare they are...but they must be considerably rarer than the normal "coloured" 464 keyboard.
 
I also picked up a grey keyed "Amstrad" 464 earlier in the year (from the UK) and I'm pretty sure they never officially made it to Australia.

Here is a Schneider badged "grey key" 464 that sold in Germany a few days ago.
 
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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #4 on: 10:14, 26 September 12 »
Just did some more web searches....and found what I basically said on the wiki...

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Thats probably were I remembered it from.
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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #5 on: 11:18, 26 September 12 »
Yup, you got that right :) It's an Amstrad-marketed one. Though, to be 100% sure you would need to check the expansion port - if German it should not be an edge connector.


What Robcfg said about the QWERTZ keyboard does ring a bell, though the photos in the wiki are QWERTY as well?


So, it's probably Germany stock that's found its way back to Ireland. €100 is a normal price, especially considering all those games. I'd go for it, but don't expect it to be anything that'll fetch you $$$ down the road!

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #6 on: 11:42, 26 September 12 »
Yup, you got that right :) It's an Amstrad-marketed one. Though, to be 100% sure you would need to check the expansion port - if German it should not be an edge connector.

One thing that has me interested is the mention of the expansion ports...
 
What you mentioned I have also read before, but I have an early Schneider 464 (tall key version) and a Schneider 664 (and a couple of 6128's)
and only the 6128's have the centronics connectors & internal shielding. The 464 & 664 are just the usual edge connectors.
 
Is anyone able to confirm for sure ?
 
One thing I just thought of is that both the 464 & 664 were purchased from Holland (although so was one of the 6128's...all from same seller)
not sure if being from Holland makes a difference ??
 
I believe Schneider also distributed the CPC's in Holland but maybe they just used the English motherboards on the 464 /664  ???
 
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AW: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #7 on: 14:07, 26 September 12 »
You are quite right. The Schneider CPC 464 and 664 had only edge connectors.
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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #8 on: 01:26, 27 September 12 »
Thanks for the information and advice. It would be nice to have in the collection - I think I'll have a chat to the chap and see if we can work something out :)

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #9 on: 06:45, 08 October 12 »
Looks like they also made it to Italy...
 
Here's one currently on ebay Italy.
 
RETRO PC AMSTRAD-CPC 464+MONITOR ORIGINALE+JOYSTICK+5 GIOCHI+ISTRUZIONI | eBay
 
beaker did you follow up the one you had your eye on ?
 
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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #10 on: 13:30, 08 October 12 »
Boy does it look boring :D

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #11 on: 15:29, 08 October 12 »
Haha, Yeh...everytime I see one of these ( even  when I get my one out ) it feels like I'm looking at an old black & white photo.
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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #12 on: 12:22, 24 June 14 »
I had a CPC464 here in the UK, Amstrad branded, colour monitor, grey keys.

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #13 on: 19:50, 26 June 14 »
Did you buy it in the UK?

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #14 on: 00:53, 27 June 14 »
Around 1990 Schneider gone away from Amstrad, and Amstrad itself sold the CPCs here in Germany labeled "Amstrad" and grey keys...
I think this is such a, for export designed, CPC 464 from 1991 (I got the same here)
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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #15 on: 10:44, 27 June 14 »
Around 1990 Schneider gone away from Amstrad, and Amstrad itself sold the CPCs here in Germany labeled "Amstrad" and grey keys...
I think this is such a, for export designed, CPC 464 from 1991 (I got the same here)


For about 10 years ago I bought a grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464. I think it was from UK. It had an standard Amstrad CPC edge connector

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #16 on: 11:33, 27 June 14 »
All 464s have edge connectors, there are no Centronics connector 464s.

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #17 on: 11:41, 27 June 14 »
All 464s have edge connectors, there are no Centronics connector 464s.

Same for the CPC 664.
The only edge connected CPC was the 6128 (And later the Plus)
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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #18 on: 11:57, 27 June 14 »
Same for the CPC 664.
The only edge connected CPC was the 6128 (And later the Plus)

You mean "The only Centronics Schneider was the 6128" :)

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #19 on: 12:37, 27 June 14 »
All 464s have edge connectors, there are no Centronics connector 464s.

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No Schneider CPC 464s with centronic connectors either?

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Re: Grey keyed Amstrad CPC 464
« Reply #20 on: 14:13, 27 June 14 »
No, the Schneider 464 has edge connectors.

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