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MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« on: 20:29, 15 May 16 »
The MultiPlay allow to add two controllers on the expansion port.
It is easy to use them from BASIC, with the INP() command.

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Each controller port can be set with two inputs modes:
- AMS = Amstrad joystick and GX4000 gamepad
- AMI = Amiga joystick / mouse (and compatible)

Each mouse sensitivity is 200dpi / 4bit acceleration.  (DK'Tronics mouse is 50dpi / 1bit)
Last but not least: Left, Middle and Right buttons are supported.

50Hz games support w/o conflict. It is handled like arcade machines!

You can preorder from CPC Boards8)
Now, we need Lemmings and North & South hacked games.  :P 
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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #1 on: 22:35, 15 May 16 »
was there a link to a web page to purchase ?

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #2 on: 22:39, 15 May 16 »
was there a link to a web page to purchase ?
I will have to add it to centpourcent.net ...  ;D
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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #3 on: 00:14, 16 May 16 »
The MultiPlay allow to add two controllers on the expansion port.
It is easy to use them from BASIC, with the INP() command.

[attachimg=1]

Each controller port can be set with two inputs modes:
- AMS = Amstrad joystick and GX4000 gamepad
- AMI = Amiga joystick / mouse (and compatible)

Each mouse sensitivity is 200dpi / 4bit acceleration.  (DK'Tronics mouse is 50dpi / 1bit)
Last but not least: Left, Middle and Right buttons are supported.

50Hz games support w/o conflict. It is handled like arcade machines!
Now, we need Lemmings and North & South hacked games.  :P
Great. Will work with a atari st mouse? And with an Amigausb-db9 adapter?

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #4 on: 10:20, 16 May 16 »
An USB to DB9 adapter should work if it is OK with an Amiga. (untested actually)

The choice was made to support natively the Amiga mouse, because it is more easy to find.
So, Atari ST mouse require a "ST to Amiga" adapter to properly work.
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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #5 on: 11:47, 16 May 16 »
I bought one of these: Amiga mouse on eBay
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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #7 on: 13:46, 16 May 16 »
I already have a Atari ST mouse.
What do you think of this adapter?
  AMIGA MOUSE TO ATARI ST / ATARI ST MOUSE TO AMIGA ADAPTER CONVERTER | eBay
The difference between Atari and Amiga mouse is the horizontal/vertical sensors pinout.
You only need to swap the 4 related pins and it seem what this adapter is doing  ;)

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #8 on: 14:13, 16 May 16 »
The MultiPlay allow to add two controllers on the expansion port.
It is easy to use them from BASIC, with the INP() command.

[attachimg=1]

Each controller port can be set with two inputs modes:
- AMS = Amstrad joystick and GX4000 gamepad
- AMI = Amiga joystick / mouse (and compatible)

Each mouse sensitivity is 200dpi / 4bit acceleration.  (DK'Tronics mouse is 50dpi / 1bit)
Last but not least: Left, Middle and Right buttons are supported.

50Hz games support w/o conflict. It is handled like arcade machines!
Now, we need Lemmings and North & South hacked games.  :P

Super cool board, I will buy one for sure. Problem is that we need a Mother X4 with more ports, something like a Mother X8  :D Mother of God.

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #9 on: 14:19, 16 May 16 »
And Then an 800 Watt PC Power Supply, Small refrigerated cubicle Etc---


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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #10 on: 14:36, 16 May 16 »
I already have a Atari ST mouse.
What do you think of this adapter?
  AMIGA MOUSE TO ATARI ST / ATARI ST MOUSE TO AMIGA ADAPTER CONVERTER | eBay
As gerald said, I think it does the job by swapping the required pins.  8)
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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #11 on: 14:53, 16 May 16 »
Super cool board, I will buy one for sure.
Problem is that we need a Mother X4 with more ports, something like a Mother X8  :D Mother of God.
Madre!!!  ;D

 My actual configuration is:
- X-MEM / X-MASS on slots 0 and 1
- MultiPlay / PlayCity on slots 2 and 3

Since I have the HxC / X-MASS, the MiniBooster is not really used at home.
To free space, may be I should release a MotherX2 special board for players, featuring:
- MultiPlay / Playcity slots
- Cartridge slot
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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #12 on: 15:06, 16 May 16 »
To free space, may be I should release a MotherX2 special board for players, featuring:
- MultiPlay / Playcity slots
- Cartridge slot
What about an X-MESS  ;D (merged xmem/xmass)

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #13 on: 15:12, 16 May 16 »
What about an X-MESS  ;D (merged xmem/xmass)
Sure, it is an idea. ;D (and sound better than X-MAME)

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #14 on: 19:33, 16 May 16 »
Definitely interested in buying one of these boards from you Tot0. Just got to wait for some money to come through first...

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #15 on: 19:49, 16 May 16 »
I also want one.   ;D

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #16 on: 16:15, 17 May 16 »
Ordered & paid  ;D .

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #17 on: 16:42, 17 May 16 »
Ordered & Paid too  :D

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #18 on: 17:28, 17 May 16 »
Ordered and paid here as well!  :D

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #19 on: 17:29, 17 May 16 »
Quick noob question ( please hold your tomatoes  8)   ):

for the extra joystick port , software has to be specifically written to support it?
old titles need to be patched ?

On a side note , I was wondering if some people here were powering their MX4 with a usb power supply and adapter ?
( I think I lack power, that's why I have erratic behavior with xmas xmess + joy plugged in ) .

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #20 on: 18:17, 17 May 16 »
I presume: if it works as a joystick can be used as a mouse with SymbOS or Art studio. Is this correct?

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #21 on: 18:26, 17 May 16 »
Quick noob question ( please hold your tomatoes  8)   ):

for the extra joystick port , software has to be specifically written to support it?
old titles need to be patched ?

On a side note , I was wondering if some people here were powering their MX4 with a usb power supply and adapter ?
( I think I lack power, that's why I have erratic behavior with xmas xmess + joy plugged in ) .

Regarding the PSU, you should power the computer and the X4 with the same power supply. You can just split the output and connect a wire to the computer and another to the board, provided that the PSU is powerful enough  :) .

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #22 on: 00:00, 18 May 16 »
Orderer and pay too.

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #23 on: 02:27, 18 May 16 »
Ordered and Paid as well.

When you say "The board require new programs to be used. Not compatible with old UnPatched games.".
Does that mean all of the "Games" have to be patched (Thousands) ?

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Re: MultiPlay MX4 Expansion
« Reply #24 on: 11:07, 18 May 16 »
Ordered and Paid as well.

When you say "The board require new programs to be used. Not compatible with old UnPatched games.".
Does that mean all of the "Games" have to be patched (Thousands) ?

Thanks   Ray


Yes, all games need to be patched that want to use the interface.

But games will continue to work with the built in cpc joystick ;)

So it makes sense to patch two player games like gauntlet, barbarian where clashes would happen between joysticks on normal cpc.
And it makes sense to add mouse support to games and programs that could benefit from it.

No need to patch every game!
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