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Title: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: John_Vella on 17:53, 25 August 20
Hello!


I've just got a CPC 464 and am looking into options for loading some games. I would rather not go down the rabbit hole that is buying cassettes from the internet because I don't have the room to store them and also the wife would kill me if I started hoarding more retro-stuff!


I was wondering if this would work... Do you guys remember those cassette adaptors that you plugged into the tape player in your car, and they had a lead which plugged into an mp3 player or mobile phone to allow you to plat music through your car speakers?


What if I used one of them in the CPC? Here's a link, in case I'm not explaining it properly...


Thanks in advance, for any opinions / suggestions.


[size=78%]https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-Car-Truck-3-5mm-AUX-Audio-Adapter-MD-MP3-mp4-CD-Player-Cassette-Casette-Tape/333581309538?fits=Model%3AC15&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item4daafed662%3Ag%3AmDcAAOSwfShen9-h&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACYBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkCrLl8erj3ATP5raQxjc%252F%252BySw570vv7VlUaFvN3slauNH3HX6Id%252BWRw1wdrPxJACLQFiWIgWEQ5rjDPQLF%252FxhsZhggMnL6DZvWOQDTedMyHn2tkmoLgl6vVDxaqzmWl60lZM7r%252FgCItRCy34s14Ai1nfiUeKK5tRTeNxk7nAXiFtSZHQQSHzqC74fGyx1gBJCBlgTZJGbBU%252F3crU7HyQcsWg2hrQP3aH0piMzTyPYfZGW44ZXg9wtSdLKzoQqead%252BhBsflmzkzB5YnXR5mwlLWTMG32xwOCJsJSwUify7QjyUkBmZxb4tANjkQqB5Fnjnge0wpa8JGuURj5XQWUWrYuD0NBshFT5vNS%252Foel5a5%252FlajYvqmy4qu2I9VyxbinYZvIluB%252Fu%252F0s8badDWbGl4FE8RYwNNdOQ%252BaRtWSIzwOqP2Jfr9%252Bxtl1vTKDPXrjB5flUYWMXihXuoG%252BmITnrWHOgEc%252BA0OVp5dd8t33V72xwvhI0F60mTng8%252B%252BNJWTAvrUlBMAdQ2LvQKHZmLqh1fc%252FIajzrqDvNrfjY2%252BYEbOSdUi20kXoNTTH3R2c%252FA%252F1r6sWJWZ6cyT1X1hnmOCbqi3b%252FPn6eNGcoFzAndmiulrIB8rY0jndeBCiWVDVDft6YoB%252F5HjncJF5UepZHSQigNNKWW6yS1Ft%252BEjGz5luer3VlS2umTeHCJoQbWIfiDHuR7fIE4ay4JuTiPwMXOdU7MWMzp6%252FbYOgPMqvEBFR%252B6kHBn%252FGVAhKqhWikx8S8q%252BK0MP%7Ccksum%3A33358130953800b7291ad5f1496d91f1100a8019d457%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524&LH_BIN=1 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-Car-Truck-3-5mm-AUX-Audio-Adapter-MD-MP3-mp4-CD-Player-Cassette-Casette-Tape/333581309538?fits=Model%3AC15&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item4daafed662%3Ag%3AmDcAAOSwfShen9-h&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACYBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkCrLl8erj3ATP5raQxjc%252F%252BySw570vv7VlUaFvN3slauNH3HX6Id%252BWRw1wdrPxJACLQFiWIgWEQ5rjDPQLF%252FxhsZhggMnL6DZvWOQDTedMyHn2tkmoLgl6vVDxaqzmWl60lZM7r%252FgCItRCy34s14Ai1nfiUeKK5tRTeNxk7nAXiFtSZHQQSHzqC74fGyx1gBJCBlgTZJGbBU%252F3crU7HyQcsWg2hrQP3aH0piMzTyPYfZGW44ZXg9wtSdLKzoQqead%252BhBsflmzkzB5YnXR5mwlLWTMG32xwOCJsJSwUify7QjyUkBmZxb4tANjkQqB5Fnjnge0wpa8JGuURj5XQWUWrYuD0NBshFT5vNS%252Foel5a5%252FlajYvqmy4qu2I9VyxbinYZvIluB%252Fu%252F0s8badDWbGl4FE8RYwNNdOQ%252BaRtWSIzwOqP2Jfr9%252Bxtl1vTKDPXrjB5flUYWMXihXuoG%252BmITnrWHOgEc%252BA0OVp5dd8t33V72xwvhI0F60mTng8%252B%252BNJWTAvrUlBMAdQ2LvQKHZmLqh1fc%252FIajzrqDvNrfjY2%252BYEbOSdUi20kXoNTTH3R2c%252FA%252F1r6sWJWZ6cyT1X1hnmOCbqi3b%252FPn6eNGcoFzAndmiulrIB8rY0jndeBCiWVDVDft6YoB%252F5HjncJF5UepZHSQigNNKWW6yS1Ft%252BEjGz5luer3VlS2umTeHCJoQbWIfiDHuR7fIE4ay4JuTiPwMXOdU7MWMzp6%252FbYOgPMqvEBFR%252B6kHBn%252FGVAhKqhWikx8S8q%252BK0MP%7Ccksum%3A33358130953800b7291ad5f1496d91f1100a8019d457%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524&LH_BIN=1)[/size]
Title: Re: Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: protek on 18:29, 25 August 20
I'm currently waiting for this one to arrive: https://www.ebay.com/itm/223521700677 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/223521700677)
Title: Re: Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: John_Vella on 19:31, 25 August 20
I've ordered this to be delivered tomorrow: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QRPJ7MS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QRPJ7MS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)


I got that as it means I can use my old mobile, rather than getting rid of it.
Title: Re: Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: VintageAdvantage on 20:20, 25 August 20
Guys, this has been discussed a one hundred million times, can you please use the search function for this? Thanks. Nobody wants to discuss this issue again.

@moderator @gryzor can we have a sub-forum for topics like this labeled "The Hall of I don't know how to use the search function, and I am too ignorant to learn it, and I don't care if I am wasting other's CPC users time with irrelevant questions"
Title: Re: Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: protek on 21:24, 25 August 20
Oh, lighten up! That's no way to make new members to feel welcome. If you feel some question is irrelevant, feel free to ignore it and let others offer their helping hand.
Title: Re: Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: John_Vella on 21:38, 25 August 20
Quote from: VintageAdvantage on 20:20, 25 August 20
Guys, this has been discussed a one hundred million times, can you please use the search function for this? Thanks. Nobody wants to discuss this issue again.

@moderator @gryzor can we have a sub-forum for topics like this labeled "The Hall of I don't know how to use the search function, and I am too ignorant to learn it, and I don't care if I am wasting other's CPC users time with irrelevant questions"


Well, I guess that told me...!
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: John_Vella on 21:40, 25 August 20
Thanks, guys. I've ordered an adaptor, and we'll see how it goes.


For the record, I did try and search the forum, but, as is the case with these things, sometimes new products are released, and I wanted to know if anybody had some new information.


Anyway, I have changed the thread title accordingly. Do we do that on this forum?


:)

Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: VintageAdvantage on 03:32, 26 August 20
If anything, it would be more interesting to hear about your experiences with a Bluetooth based adapter, because they are fairly new, and not a lot of users tried it - obviously, the adapter cable is a pain in the *** elsewise:

https://www.amazon.com/Receiver-Bluetooth-Cassette-Adapter-Player/dp/B083BX9FPT/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=Q80NMMKYXQ81&dchild=1&keywords=bluetooth+cassette+adapter&qid=1598409315&sprefix=bluetooth+casette+%2Caps%2C225&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFJNERMTEs0WE0zTUcmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA4Nzk4NzUyTVFFVUhRNlNQREo4JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5MTg2MjUyVUlUNDhFQUFKTENXJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== (https://www.amazon.com/Receiver-Bluetooth-Cassette-Adapter-Player/dp/B083BX9FPT/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=Q80NMMKYXQ81&dchild=1&keywords=bluetooth+cassette+adapter&qid=1598409315&sprefix=bluetooth+casette+%2Caps%2C225&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFJNERMTEs0WE0zTUcmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA4Nzk4NzUyTVFFVUhRNlNQREo4JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5MTg2MjUyVUlUNDhFQUFKTENXJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==)
Title: Re: Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: pelrun on 05:01, 26 August 20
Quote from: John_Vella on 21:38, 25 August 20

Well, I guess that told me...!
That was a horrible way to be greeted, please don't take that as a common occurrence around here. Most of us really are happy to hear more people are rediscovering their old machines. Welcome!

Sometimes a question is just as useful as an icebreaker as it is a means for gathering information, and VintageAdvantage would do well to contemplate that. Excuse us while we return him to the factory for re-education.
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: Gryzor on 06:48, 26 August 20
Don't worry about it, and welcome here. I think you'll find that normally it's one of the friendliest places you have visited, so have fun!
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: Gryzor on 06:51, 26 August 20
Don't worry about it, and welcome here. I think you'll find that normally it's one of the friendliest places you have visited, so have fun!
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: VintageAdvantage on 06:51, 26 August 20
Indeed. And to Pelrun's point - the introduction forum is here:

https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/general-discussion/ (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/general-discussion/)
For more "ice breaker" chit chat.
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: Skunkfish on 07:51, 26 August 20
The search function is indeed useful! When I search 'cassette adapter' the only thread it finds is this one!  :P
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: Bryce on 08:50, 26 August 20
Unfortunately we have no control over how good/bad the search function is, it's part of the forum software. As with many forums, I find it useless. If you want to find something in this (or another) forum, go to Google and do a search using the site command - ie: search for   Cassette adapter site:www.cpcwiki.eu and you'll find what you need.


Oh, and welcome to the forum John.


Bryce.
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: John_Vella on 10:07, 26 August 20
Thanks everyone, and please let's not make a big deal about someone getting uppity with me.


I'm planning on being here for a long time and as you get to know me you'll realise that I'm as easy going as they come, but I also have a sarcastic, (but always friendly) side!


Have a great day, everyone. :D
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: pelrun on 10:40, 26 August 20
Nah, this isn't a big deal. It's just important to be explicit when some people forget their manners, so they're less likely to do it next time.  :laugh:
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 15:41, 26 August 20
Quote from: VintageAdvantage on 15:37, 26 August 20
There is no problem at all with the Search Function. You need to spell "Cassette Adapter" correctly, and you need to be logged in, and you get 3 pages of results with previous discussions.


Mate, give it a rest. This place is a peaceful forum. We'd like for it to remain that way.
Last person who posted in an "I know everything" manner, got banned for his efforts.

Just drop it?

Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: John_Vella on 17:08, 26 August 20
Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 15:41, 26 August 20

Mate, give it a rest. This place is a peaceful forum. We'd like for it to remain that way.
Last person who posted in an "I know everything" manner, got banned for his efforts.

Just drop it?


Being British, I spell adaptor with an o, not an e. I forgot that this is an international forum and should have tried both spellings. My mistake.


I was going to ask if anybody had tried an Android app called tapdancer. Is it worth doing that here, or am I better to ask a mod to lock this and I'll start a new thread.

Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: VintageAdvantage on 17:22, 26 August 20
I haven't, but I'd be interested in learning what you find. It seems it can play TZX and CDT, so you should be  good.

There is a huge collection floating around somewhere:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VABTW0u18yNI06MD77RIAo5ERk9mjWAE/view
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 18:05, 26 August 20
Quote from: John_Vella on 17:08, 26 August 20

Being British, I spell adaptor with an o, not an e. I forgot that this is an international forum and should have tried both spellings. My mistake.


I was going to ask if anybody had tried an Android app called tapdancer. Is it worth doing that here, or am I better to ask a mod to lock this and I'll start a new thread.


John, most of us couldn't care less about spelling. The grammar nazis don't fall down here so you have nothing to apologise for.


To answer your question, I've tried tapdancer but didn't get great results however it was on an older phone and the app crashed out quite a bit. Others have had better results though. I still convert cdt files to wav and then copy them to tapes. I've a stack of the things for nostalgia purposes.  :)
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: John_Vella on 18:19, 26 August 20
I don't know if I'm allowed to post links to external sites, so if it's not allowed I'll apologise now and ask that a mod delete the link. https://cloudapks.com/download/148950/181/ (https://cloudapks.com/download/148950/181/)


I've managed to get a few games running, (using the run "" command, as load "" game me memory full errors) and it hasn't crashed on my old Sony Xperia XZ Ultra yet.


Thanks for the link, @VintageAdvantage (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3600) I'm downloading it now. :D

Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 18:34, 26 August 20
Quote from: John_Vella on 18:19, 26 August 20
I don't know if I'm allowed to post links to external sites, so if it's not allowed I'll apologise now and ask that a mod delete the link. https://cloudapks.com/download/148950/181/ (https://cloudapks.com/download/148950/181/)


I've managed to get a few games running, (using the run "" command, as load "" game me memory full errors) and it hasn't crashed on my old Sony Xperia XZ Ultra yet.


Thanks for the link, @VintageAdvantage (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3600) I'm downloading it now. :D


It's run" and enter for the Amstrad, load"" is for other systems. 😊 On the Amstrad load"" loads basic programs without running them. 😊
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: John_Vella on 21:09, 26 August 20
Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 18:34, 26 August 20

It's run" and enter for the Amstrad, load"" is for other systems. 😊 On the Amstrad load"" loads basic programs without running them. 😊


Thanks for that. I think this information is going to come in really useful in the near future.



I'm beginning to suspect that, in the last thirty something years since I last used an Amstrad, I may well have forgotten more than I knew about them!
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: pelrun on 01:58, 27 August 20
I had no end of trouble with TapDancer and basically consigned it to the bin.
So I added CDT/TZX support to PlayUEF, which is a webapp that worked pretty well just in Chrome on my phone:
https://pelrun.github.io/PlayUEF/PlayUEF.html
Doesn't have nearly as "cute" an interface as TapDancer, but then I consider that a feature  :laugh:
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: John_Vella on 11:18, 28 August 20
Quote from: pelrun on 01:58, 27 August 20
I had no end of trouble with TapDancer and basically consigned it to the bin.
So I added CDT/TZX support to PlayUEF, which is a webapp that worked pretty well just in Chrome on my phone:
https://pelrun.github.io/PlayUEF/PlayUEF.html (https://pelrun.github.io/PlayUEF/PlayUEF.html)
Doesn't have nearly as "cute" an interface as TapDancer, but then I consider that a feature  :laugh:


I hadn't seen this before. Looks good! I'll try it out next time I fire up the CPC.


One of the things I do like about TapDancer is the countdown timer, since that lets me know if I have time to make a cuppa while a game is loaded, (and the answer is always yes!)


:)
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 13:26, 28 August 20
Quote from: John_Vella on 11:18, 28 August 20I hadn't seen this before. Looks good! I'll try it out next time I fire up the CPC. One of the things I do like about TapDancer is the countdown timer, since that lets me know if I have time to make a cuppa while a game is loaded, (and the answer is always yes!) :)

I used to think a lot of tape games took an age to load on the Amstrad, it's only when I look at the C64 and Speccy counterparts, I realise the CPC tapes were actually quite faster to load. :)
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: pelrun on 14:04, 28 August 20
Yeah loading games from tape on Amstrad is as fast as loading from disk on the C64  :picard2:
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 14:38, 28 August 20
Quote from: pelrun on 14:04, 28 August 20Yeah loading games from tape on Amstrad is as fast as loading from disk on the C64  :picard2:

In some cases, it's faster.
I'm fairly certain Bruce Lee loads faster from the CPC on take than it does on the C64 from disk! I fell asleep the first time I saw it load from disk on the C64!
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Cassette adaptor for a CPC 464
Post by: retro_4_ever on 18:07, 29 August 20
i use tape adapters 99p of the bay ... can be a bit of trial and error .. i do this with CPC and specie +2/+2a the cpc seems less fussy ...with specie i have used OTLA to make turbo loaders but i dont think this is possible on the cpc although im not sure ... ok so its seems CDT files are basically the same as specie TZX ... so far on the amstrad i use a program called winTZX and make a .wav file ..which works well there are loads of others ..i had major problems with playing audio file direct from my pc ( i suspect it is changing the audio somehow) even when played through my av receiver,, so i imported  them into my apple tv which connects direct to the amp and it works a treat ...some stuff will load of phone also (it will on specie not sure if i have tried on cpc) ,, there is a guy on youtube (mark fixes stuff) that details how to connect a internal jack for direct access to the tape deck .. i am planning on trying this
hope this is of some help ... 
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