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Title: EME-150A at 670 rpm
Post by: papichapo on 12:34, 22 March 21
Hi all,
last summer, after almost 10 years, I've unpacked my old DDI-1 and plugged it to my 464. After having changed the belt, it was all okay  :D
Last week, I've made the same test but the noise motor was louder than expected.
After some investigations, I've found the motor was running at 670 rpm  :(
On the PCB, the VR201 cannot reduce this speed (just 1/2 rotation allowed).
Any clue ?
Title: Re: EME-150A at 670 rpm
Post by: tjohnson on 15:53, 22 March 21
normally there is a pot on the motor to adjust the speed.
Title: Re: EME-150A at 670 rpm
Post by: papichapo on 16:19, 22 March 21
No, I as said, on this model, the only way to adjust motor speed is by the way of a PCB pot, not on the motor.
And the tune is limited to 1/2 round, not enough to divide the speed limit by 2...
Title: Re: EME-150A at 670 rpm
Post by: Bryce on 16:46, 22 March 21
If the speed is anything above 350rpm, then it's not the pot that needs to be adjusted. It's usually a dry joint somewhere else on the PCB.

Bryce.
Title: Re: EME-150A at 670 rpm
Post by: papichapo on 19:06, 22 March 21
Does someone known what are current values am I supposed to find on the 4 wires solded to the motor : red, orange, yellow and brown... and of course where to check between...
The plug connecting to the PCB shows me correct values : I've 12 V (red wire) and 5 V (orange one).
Title: Re: EME-150A at 670 rpm
Post by: Bryce on 20:19, 22 March 21
The motor is a stepper motor, there won't be any stable voltage on any of the pins. It gets square waves sent to it from a driver IC.

Bryce.
Title: Re: EME-150A at 670 rpm
Post by: tjohnson on 11:08, 23 March 21
Quote from: papichapo on 16:19, 22 March 21No, I as said, on this model, the only way to adjust motor speed is by the way of a PCB pot, not on the motor.
Actually just to be rather pedantic you didn't say that, you said "On the PCB, the VR201 cannot reduce this speed (just 1/2 rotation allowed)" you didn't mention the motor...
Title: Re: EME-150A at 670 rpm
Post by: papichapo on 14:07, 23 March 21
My apology, but I thought that giving the exact model of the drive in the topic title would have been enough to be understood...
Title: Re: EME-150A at 670 rpm
Post by: Vitop69 on 19:48, 19 May 24
Quote from: Bryce on 16:46, 22 March 21If the speed is anything above 350rpm, then it's not the pot that needs to be adjusted. It's usually a dry joint somewhere else on the PCB.

Bryce.

Hey Brice, what do you mean exactly with "dry joint".

Title: Re: EME-150A at 670 rpm
Post by: Bryce on 19:54, 19 May 24
Quote from: Vitop69 on 19:48, 19 May 24
Quote from: Bryce on 16:46, 22 March 21If the speed is anything above 350rpm, then it's not the pot that needs to be adjusted. It's usually a dry joint somewhere else on the PCB.

Bryce.

Hey Brice, what do you mean exactly with "dry joint".



A dry joint is when a solder joint cracks, either due to bad soldering, or in the case of retro computers, because it's extremely old and had some sort of dynamic movement being applied to it for years. They usually look like this (below), but might not always be so obvious.

Bryce.
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