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Title: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 11:29, 07 February 15
Hi,
someone wrote me to ask me if i was able to produce the Hack-it product.
He wants to have one with the motherX format. No problem to design it.

The only problem is that for one item only, it would be pretty expensive.
So is there anyone interested in it ?

Price should be 25 euros for Hack-it (MX4 compatible, if Toto agrees that i use his universal standard  :D )
at least 4 orders.


Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: radu14m on 12:14, 07 February 15
this is a kind of Multiface device, right ?
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 13:13, 07 February 15
Yes, kind of but less powerful.
dissassembling, overview of memory, editor...
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: steve on 17:27, 07 February 15
I was just thinking the other day that after my x-mass arrives I will need some way to transfer software from cassette to the x-mass, would this device be able to do that?
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: fgbrain on 17:54, 07 February 15
Why not redo Multiface 2 mx4 version in the first place????
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: IanS on 18:08, 07 February 15
Isn't the hack-it just a foreground rom, so it gets initialised before Basic.

(like the JM Demon thing John Morrison Demon Development Cartridge (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/john-morrison-demon-development-cartridge/))

You should just be able to put it in a standard rom board/megaflash/xmem etc.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: Gryzor on 19:18, 07 February 15
Indeed, why not MF2?
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 22:40, 07 February 15
As i said, it is just for someone. He specially wants a hack it interface.
I don't know Why.

MF is a good Idea, i'm going to see if it is possible to put it in a Mx4 standard pcb
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: Gryzor on 23:21, 07 February 15
I'd certainly get one... But even a Hack-it would be nice :)
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: TotO on 10:32, 08 February 15
Quote from: IanS on 18:08, 07 February 15
Isn't the hack-it just a foreground rom, so it gets initialised before Basic.
(like the JM Demon thing John Morrison Demon Development Cartridge (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/john-morrison-demon-development-cartridge/))
You should just be able to put it in a standard rom board/megaflash/xmem etc.
Yes, you can program the X-MEM Firmware for this use, without the need of an extra board.


Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: TotO on 10:34, 08 February 15
Quote from: talrek on 22:40, 07 February 15MF is a good Idea, i'm going to see if it is possible to put it in a Mx4 standard pcb
A Multiface is a better idea and you are welcome to  use the MX4 form factor for that.
I can give you the template if you are working under Eagle.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: CraigsBar on 11:07, 08 February 15
Quote from: TotO on 10:34, 08 February 15
A Multiface is a better idea and you are welcome to  use the MX4 form factor for that.
I can give you the template if you are working under Eagle.
if you do a multiface I'll buy one! But would it be possible to hack or rewrite the multiface rom so it is universal. The commercial multifaces were made either for the CPC range amsdos or the plus range amsdos. And annoyingly are not interchangeable

Edit: I have both versions so can provide rom dumps from each if needed.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: TotO on 16:18, 08 February 15
Thank you, but it's not my actual projects to redo it.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 17:02, 08 February 15
Quote from: TotO on 10:34, 08 February 15
A Multiface is a better idea and you are welcome to  use the MX4 form factor for that.
I can give you the template if you are working under Eagle.

Ok thank you i'd like it.
I think really MX4 form should now be the standard for all these projects.

Quote from: CraigsBar on 11:07, 08 February 15
if you do a multiface I'll buy one! But would it be possible to hack or rewrite the multiface rom so it is universal. The commercial multifaces were made either for the CPC range amsdos or the plus range amsdos. And annoyingly are not interchangeable

Edit: I have both versions so can provide rom dumps from each if needed.

Well i'm not sure if i'm going to do it. If yes i was planning to use the files and roms on the wiki page... I just saw that to fit on a motherX4 board format i will have to use PLCC 16V8 GALs
Also i will use only 16V8 gals.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: TFM on 22:27, 08 February 15
Well, I would be interested in a MF2 clone.  :)
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 22:55, 08 February 15
Ok first i design and i order the PCB.
second i assemble a few pieces to do some tests.

Let's go !!!
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: archcosmo on 23:24, 08 February 15
Hi

I'd be interested in a Hack-It board too :)

but perhaps the discussion to build an MF2 board for the MX4 should be on a different topic??
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: TFM on 00:59, 09 February 15
Quote from: archcosmo on 23:24, 08 February 15
Hi

I'd be interested in a Hack-It board too :)

but perhaps the discussion to build an MF2 board for the MX4 should be on a different topic??

Well, if I understand it right, the Hack it just need to have one ROM slot, is that right?
Hackit - CPCWiki (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Hackit)
So just use the ROM with the X-MEM, MegaFlash, SF2, ROM-RAM-Box etc. (and add a reset button if needed).

Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: Bryce on 09:48, 09 February 15
Yes, it was just a single ROMBoard with a reset switch. There's no need to build new hardware, it will work on any ROMBoard.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: TotO on 12:41, 09 February 15
Yes, as said.
More than hundred peoples can already do that using their X-MEM + MotherX4 combo.
So, I doubt about the real interrest of this new board. Better to work on a MF2.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 18:12, 09 February 15
Yes i understand but he really wants one, even after i explained that it should be better in a romboard, no matter which version.
But i don't understand he said he wants to put it in his CPC, but why ask me for a MX format ? May be just to have an original re-made Hack-it ??? He wants to replace the basic at the reset.
but XMEM and Megaflash can do that also, can't they ?



Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: TotO on 19:55, 09 February 15
The X-MEM switch the lower and the upper ROM0 at the same time to avoid conflicts and make it more easy to use.
So, to use the Hacker ROM the user only need to program the same BASIC on ROM0 too.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: TFM on 21:36, 09 February 15
If you have the MegaFlash you can add the lower ROM Box.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 23:01, 10 February 15
Well i asked him, and he really wants it, he already have XMEM, and he wants a card alone.
Well i'm going to make a few, since there is not a lot of people interested in it ;-)

At the same time i will order the PCB for the MF2 clone.


Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: CraigsBar on 23:27, 10 February 15
Quote from: talrek on 23:01, 10 February 15
Well i asked him, and he really wants it, he already have XMEM, and he wants a card alone.
Well i'm going to make a few, since there is not a lot of people interested in it ;-)

At the same time i will order the PCB for the MF2 clone.
thanks talrek, I'll take an mf2 clone please. And if possible to make it universal for cpc/plus that would be awesome.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: Munchausen on 01:57, 11 February 15
I would also love a MF2 clone, awesome that you're making some!
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: archcosmo on 03:26, 11 February 15
yep, an Mf2 clone is great

I'll take one when they're ready
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: Ast on 11:34, 11 February 15
Multiface 2 for Cpc plus/cpc, in mx4 format? What will be the price? 24 euros?
I probably take one.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 20:23, 11 February 15
Hi, i'm going to make a new subject for the MF2.... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

For those interested in the hack, here is the picture of the board
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 21:41, 18 March 15
Hi,
interfaces finished !!!
here are some pictures.
the interface has been tested on CPC6128 old, centronics and CPC6128+
Rom availables are : 7.00 (french) and 4.00 / 4.79 (english)

It works well installed in a Mother X4 on directly connected to the CPC

Price is 25 euros with the Eprom
22 Without Eprom (if you have one)

add 5 euros for extra cable (old or centronics)
add 3 euros for french shipping or 5 euros for UE shipping

(http://i.imgur.com/bul5XlPl.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/FJlXpfGl.jpg)

Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: Gryzor on 21:44, 18 March 15
Yes, please :)

How do I order?


[EDIT] Ad damn, as I was hitting POST your PM arrived :D
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: Cpcmaniaco on 00:40, 19 March 15
I am interested in one for me.

Can you put the ROM on socket ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: pelrun on 03:33, 19 March 15
"(C) SIREN SOFTWARE 1978", huh?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: archcosmo on 05:13, 19 March 15
the original has the same typo
http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/File:Hacker-top.jpg (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/File:Hacker-top.jpg)

Quote from: pelrun on 03:33, 19 March 15
"(C) SIREN SOFTWARE 1978", huh?  :laugh:

the picture shows that there's an eprom socket under the Winbond chip already  ;)

Quote from: Cpcmaniaco on 00:40, 19 March 15
I am interested in one for me.

Can you put the ROM on socket ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 17:06, 19 March 15
Yes there is a socket, and don't be afraid normally Hackit Rom is in a 27C128, but i had only W27c512 EEPROM so.... Every buyer will have these models.
But it works the sme way a 27C128 ;-)
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 18:03, 21 March 15
Quote from: Cpcmaniaco on 00:40, 19 March 15
I am interested in one for me.

Can you put the ROM on socket ?

Thanks.

It is already on socket.
If you still want one don't forget to give me the rom version V4.00, 4.79 or 7.00 (the last two of them are in French)


Just for info there are 3 left
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: Cpcmaniaco on 01:25, 23 March 15
The first one please, because I don't speak nothing on French.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: skywalky on 11:14, 23 March 15
I want one of this. With the english ROM. If is not too late.
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 12:47, 23 March 15
Ok there are two left.  :)

Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: qbert on 17:11, 23 March 15
 :-X
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 18:11, 23 March 15
Quote from: qbert on 17:11, 23 March 15
:-X

it seems you took the last one, since i'm waiting also for the second.

So, no other left sorry.
If they are people interested i will see if another batch is interesting, but before i have some MF2 to build ;-) (some parts i'm still waiting for... grrrr)  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: Gryzor on 20:20, 23 March 15
How many was that batch after all??
Title: Re: Hack-It / Le Hackeur
Post by: talrek on 16:57, 01 April 15
Well there was 10 interfaces  :)   And i didn't even kept one for myself  :'( :'( :'(
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