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Title: Help! I am building a Cyboard II
Post by: salvogendut on 17:25, 07 September 25
I have started to assemble a Cyboard II (from https://github.com/salafek/cyboard-for-cpc (https://github.com/salafek/cyboard-for-cpc/)) and I can see in the BOM (https://github.com/salafek/cyboard-for-cpc/blob/main/hardware/bom.txt)  that there are two elements R12 and R13 that are marked as 'Jumpers'. Since the images on github have a WS5100 covering that part, does anybody know how should I jumper these? If at all? See my board under contruction with the area marked in red where these jumpers should be

(https://i.postimg.cc/YCxBWL3z/20250907-180827.png)

The finished board as it appears in github

(https://i.postimg.cc/dttxxNmr/cyboard-v1-1.png)
Title: Re: Help! I am building a Cyboard II
Post by: robcfg on 19:22, 07 September 25
As the value for R12 and R13 is 0 ohm, and they are labeled as "jumper", I thin it means just connect it with a piece of wire.

If you have some resistor legs cut, provided they are long enough, you can solder that piece of metal instead of a cable.
Title: Re: Help! I am building a Cyboard II
Post by: salvogendut on 20:21, 07 September 25
I see! Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Help! I am building a Cyboard II
Post by: Prodatron on 22:24, 07 September 25
thanks and cool to see more and more of this great hardware!
Title: Re: Help! I am building a Cyboard II
Post by: d_kef on 22:45, 07 September 25
Quote from: robcfg on Yesterday at 19:22As the value for R12 and R13 is 0 ohm, and they are labeled as "jumper", I thin it means just connect it with a piece of wire.

If you have some resistor legs cut, provided they are long enough, you can solder that piece of metal instead of a cable.
That's the way to go indeed!
If you have any more questions just contact me.

Edit: By the way, it's Cyboard not Cyboard II. Unless you add something to the design and make it Cyboard II.😉

d_kef
Title: Re: Help! I am building a Cyboard II
Post by: salvogendut on 06:14, 08 September 25
Quote from: d_kef on Yesterday at 22:45
Quote from: robcfg on Yesterday at 19:22As the value for R12 and R13 is 0 ohm, and they are labeled as "jumper", I thin it means just connect it with a piece of wire.

If you have some resistor legs cut, provided they are long enough, you can solder that piece of metal instead of a cable.
That's the way to go indeed!
If you have any more questions just contact me.

Edit: By the way, it's Cyboard not Cyboard II. Unless you add something to the design and make it Cyboard II.😉

d_kefHey
Quote from: d_kef on Yesterday at 22:45
Quote from: robcfg on Yesterday at 19:22As the value for R12 and R13 is 0 ohm, and they are labeled as "jumper", I thin it means just connect it with a piece of wire.

If you have some resistor legs cut, provided they are long enough, you can solder that piece of metal instead of a cable.
That's the way to go indeed!
If you have any more questions just contact me.

Edit: By the way, it's Cyboard not Cyboard II. Unless you add something to the design and make it Cyboard II.😉

d_kef


Thank you!!! I will definitely contact you! Also my apologies, it is indeed just a Cyboard! Not sure where that II came from  :)
Title: Re: Help! I am building a Cyboard II
Post by: joky on 17:28, 08 September 25
And please note that the clock must be equipped for a mouse to work on the USB port. I spent a long time looking for a fault that didn't exist, just because the clock wasn't equipped. :picard:
Title: Re: Help! I am building a Cyboard II
Post by: salvogendut on 17:46, 08 September 25
Quote from: joky on Today at 17:28And please note that the clock must be equipped for a mouse to work on the USB port. I spent a long time looking for a fault that didn't exist, just because the clock wasn't equipped. :picard:
Wow thanks for the warning! I could easily loose my marbles on something like that :)
Title: Re: Help! I am building a Cyboard II
Post by: d_kef on 17:53, 08 September 25
Quote from: joky on Today at 17:28And please note that the clock must be equipped for a mouse to work on the USB port. I spent a long time looking for a fault that didn't exist, just because the clock wasn't equipped. :picard:
That's a SymbOS "feature". It's just how SymbOS detects the presence of a Symbiface II. 
Every single component of Cyboard works independently of the others.

d_kef
Title: Re: Help! I am building a Cyboard II
Post by: joky on 19:51, 08 September 25
Okay, thank you for the explanation.
Title: Re: Help! I am building a Cyboard II
Post by: Prodatron on 20:29, 08 September 25
Quote from: d_kef on Today at 17:53
Quote from: joky on Today at 17:28And please note that the clock must be equipped for a mouse to work on the USB port. I spent a long time looking for a fault that didn't exist, just because the clock wasn't equipped. :picard:
That's a SymbOS "feature". It's just how SymbOS detects the presence of a Symbiface II.
Every single component of Cyboard works independently of the others.

d_kef
In fact it's a "PlayCity feature". The old auto-detection for the SF2 mouse was independant from the other SF2 components.
Unfortunately the PlayCity is mirroring its ports to a larger range, which also includes the SF2 mouse. Old SymbOS versions use the old detection, but it doesn't work anymore, if a PlayCity is connected as well.

if 0
;### OLD DETECTION ROUTINE -> DOESN'T WORK WITH PLAYCITY

;### Detects and initializes device
;### Output    CF=1 device present and initialized
;### Destroyed  AF,BC,DE,HL,IX,IY
ms2det  ld bc,ms2prt
        ld a,100
ms2det1 in d,(c)
        dec a
        jr nz,ms2det1
        in a,(c)
        scf
        ret z
        ccf
        ret
endif



If anyone knows a methode, how to detect the SF2 mouse, when then PlayCity is connected as well, please tell me!
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