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Title: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 09:47, 29 September 10
Hi All (especially Jeff),
       I had some time to really test the HxC last night and experienced some strange issues. I tried to batch convert some Dsk files and it seemed to work fine, at the start, but crashed before it had finished all the files. While investigating which ones caused the crash, I discovered a strange phenonem fonominum phenomi thing with one of the files. I converted Harrier Attack* and it converted without a  crash or reporting any problem, but when I try to copy the file to the SD Card, windows reports that there is an unexpected error while copying. The only cause I can think of, is that the file is maybe not as long as the FAT reports? Has anyone else had similar problems? I was using the latest Software version on Windows 7.

Bryce.

* Don't ask why, I just always liked that game.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Gryzor on 11:25, 29 September 10
Are you sure you're using the latest version? It used to be buggy but when I reported this very same problem Jeff fixed it...
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 12:24, 29 September 10
I downloaded it last night from the HxC page, so I assume it's the latest (1.3.15.1).

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: norecess on 14:39, 29 September 10
Quote from: Bryce on 09:47, 29 September 10
... when I try to copy the file to the SD Card, windows reports that there is an unexpected error while copying
To me, it does not look not related to the software. You should rather check your SD Card / format it (low level).

Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 14:59, 29 September 10
I've tried copying the file to other SD Cards and even a USB Stick with the same result and all other HFE files get copied to the SD Card without any errors. It also reports an error if I try to rename the HFE file without moving it anywhere, so the SD Card isn't the issue, the File is definitely somehow corrupt. I converted it several times with the exact same results. So the error is repeatable.

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: norecess on 20:34, 29 September 10
Ok so in that case you should contact Jeff itself..
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Gryzor on 09:21, 30 September 10
It's not entirely clear - is it file-specific? I mean, does it happen with the same disk images, always? If so, then either your images are corrupt (but I'm guessing you've already checked for that) or it's a software issue, in which case you can do what I did - mail those files to Jeff and ask him to figure it out? Maybe a bug was reintroduced - I can try sending you the version I use at home...
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 09:27, 30 September 10
All I can say for now is that the SD Card isn't the issue and yes, it always happened on the same file., but I haven't had a chance to look at the problem any further, I intend doing that tonight. I need to check whether the Dsk file is corrupt (no, haven't done that yet) and I also want to see if it happens on Win XP too (could be a Win7 issue). I'll report back when I've done some more tests. If the Dsk proves to be good I'll forward it to Jeff for further analysis.

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 19:09, 30 September 10
Ok, problem solved (sort of). My Laptop or Win 7 seems to be messing things up on the SD Card. The Card works fine on my XP PC, but as soon as I've written anything to the card using my Laptop, the files can no longer be renamed or copied???? Really weird.

The batch copy still crashes when I try to convert all Dsk files, but I've no idea which file is crashing it, will have to look into that another time.

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: norecess on 19:57, 30 September 10
Yeah, I was pretty sure the problem was OS-based, not Jeff-specific.


At the beginning, HxC was not that stable, but now it's really production-ready and perfectly suited for CPCs! :)
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: TFM on 21:28, 30 September 10
It should run with Windows 7 and without errors though
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 21:32, 30 September 10
I never doubted the hardware. As a hardware person I have already studied it in detail and it's an impressive, well thought through design. Jeff even has the PCB protected with an SMD fuse!! That's a lot more than I would normally do :D
But software can always have a few glitches, that's the nature of the product. The software still crashes during the batch conversion. I haven't checked which Dsk is causing the crash, but as soon as I do (assuming the Dsk image is not just corrupt), I will let Jeff know, so that this can be investigated.

Bryce.

Edit: Win7 isn't the problem, the batch crash happens on XP too.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 23:20, 30 September 10
Quote from: Bryce on 21:32, 30 September 10
Edit: Win7 isn't the problem, the batch crash happens on XP too.

I think that they talk about this :
Quotewindows reports that there is an unexpected error while copying.

For the crash problem :

Menu Status->Set log file->(create a new log file).  After this use the Batch converter. Once crashed, open the log file, at end of it you should find the guilty ;-).
After this send it to me.
http://hxc2001.free.fr/imiel.htm (http://hxc2001.free.fr/imiel.htm)


Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 08:39, 01 October 10
The Laptop Issue: It will read 4GB SD Cards properly, but it won't format them (error: unable to complete format) and if a good SD Card (formatted somewhere else) is written to, using the Laptop, then the files are sometimes "locked" ("unexpected error" reported when renaming, moving and other files can't be added to the SD Card ). I assume the problem is with the SD Card slot or the drivers. The SD Card works error-free in other devices.

The batch crash issue: Thanks for the tip, I will try that out tonight and see what it reports and let you know.

Btw: The batch conversion is seriously fast, I was expecting it to take ages, but it converted >500 Dsks in seconds :)

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Gryzor on 10:36, 01 October 10
I doubted it's the OS that does it, the program is straightforward enough... why would it be incompatible with 7 over XP?

And yes, it's seriously fast, I had the same reaction as you did!
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 16:02, 01 October 10
Eh, no with the OS I didn't mean that the HxC Software doesn't work with it. The strange card effects happen no matter what software I used to access the cards (Explorer, Photo software etc), that's why I said that the Laptop or Win7 driver doesn't like the slot.

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 16:15, 01 October 10
Hi Jeff,
         I did what you advised and the Log reported which Dsk was causing the crash (Targhan). However I've checked the Dsk file and it IS in fact corrupted, so I'm happy to report that the batch crash isn't a problem with your software just a dodgy Dsk :) Case closed.

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 09:18, 02 October 10
Quote from: Bryce on 16:15, 01 October 10
Hi Jeff,
         I did what you advised and the Log reported which Dsk was causing the crash (Targhan). However I've checked the Dsk file and it IS in fact corrupted, so I'm happy to report that the batch crash isn't a problem with your software just a dodgy Dsk :) Case closed.

Bryce.

Anyway could you send me the corrupted dsk ? The software should not crash with it.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: norecess on 02:48, 03 October 10
QuoteAnyway could you send me the corrupted dsk ? The software should not crash with it

I'm so impressed by Jeff's support. He could just leave there. But no. Once again, a proof that Jeff just did not deliver the stuff, he also provides a professional-class support giving a safe, perfect product ! :-*
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Gryzor on 08:19, 03 October 10
Jeff is indeed great, his "after-sales" support is fantastic... What can I say, I love the guy :D
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 10:51, 03 October 10
Hi Jeff,
        I sent the dodgy Dsk file to your hxc2001 email address last night. DskManager will load it but reports errors and you'll see that the file list is all messed up with strange characters. Loading it into HxCSoftware causes an immediate crash.

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: TFM on 20:07, 03 October 10
I'm looking forward to order two of the Rev. C SD-HxC, as soon as they are available.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Jeff_HxC2001 on 08:17, 17 October 10
Quote from: TFM/FS on 20:07, 03 October 10
I'm looking forward to order two of the Rev. C SD-HxC, as soon as they are available.

 
  You can already preorder some of them :

   (http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/vrac/sdhxcfe_revc.jpg)

:)
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: TFM on 04:51, 19 October 10
I love Blue! Ordered two of this diamonds! Looking forward to make my first experiences with them :-) Thank's Jeff!!!
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Gryzor on 07:38, 20 October 10
I like blue, too, and the various led colors (sleeeek!), but after all, really, what are the differences with this version?
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: robcfg on 09:55, 20 October 10
I preordered mine too. The Amiga write supports is just so sweeeeet  ;D
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Gryzor on 06:02, 21 October 10
Nobody seems to be able to answer my question...? So, is the only feature the Amiga write support?
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: TFM on 21:40, 21 October 10
Quote from: Gryzor on 06:02, 21 October 10
Nobody seems to be able to answer my question...? So, is the only feature the Amiga write support?

Well, I didn't answer before since I don't know it 100%. What I did read in the forums (and what Nurgle explained to me) is that Rev. C (in contrast to Rev. B) has an additional S-RAM, which is needed to allow Amiga Write support. But if you have Rev. B you can add the S-RAM by yourself for 3 Euros (and I think you need one or two resisters or so).

The reason I was waiting for Rev. C is mainly that I'm thinking of creating a kind of own floppy disc format, let's say the maximum that hardware can provide. So this would be a kind of hard-disc simulation, just by using much tracks, sectors and heads. But I have to get the hardware first before I can seriously think about doing such things.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Gryzor on 08:02, 22 October 10
Ok, it's a minor change then. Nice to have (I guess main use would be high-score and game saving in adventures or sth) but not essential to warrant buying it if you already have the previous one ...

Still, the multi-color LEDs are lovely :)
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 09:41, 22 October 10
I have a Rev. B and it has the multi-colour LEDs too, didn't they all have that?

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Gryzor on 10:29, 22 October 10
Unfortunately no, it was a roulette thing; I got stuck with one from a batch with green LEDs only.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 12:55, 24 October 10
Then buy some SMD1206 LEDs in yellow and red and swap them :D Where's the problem?

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Gryzor on 16:39, 24 October 10
But how can you change those LEDs by hand?
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Bryce on 21:21, 24 October 10
They are standard SMD parts. Un-solder each end, then solder a new part in it's place.

Bryce.
Title: Re: HxC Conversion Software.
Post by: Gryzor on 08:17, 25 October 10
Ok... will take a look when I get back home tonight :)
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