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I'm proud to announce a joint development with TotO, the Play2CPC, an evolution of the Plus2CPC adapter which includes new major features:
- Extra audio capabilities
- Sound mix into the CPC speaker or stereo audio jack
- Full Amstrad Plus ROM decoding
- Extra on-board V-ROM for amazing new AAA games
- General purpose programmable raster interrupt
- Compatible with standard Amstrad cartridges and new extended formats
- 100% compatible with C4CPC
- Support for RW cartridges to save/update games, scores and settings
- Boot switch and reset button commodities
Quote from: abalore on 15:38, 23 November 21The cartridges can be written directly from the CPC
Ha! I was wondering about such a device this past weekend!!
Put me on the list please ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This sounds amazing ....
Put me on the list! Please :-)
Very intrigued. I assume the rewritable memory can only be written to via the Play2CPC and not from the standard cartridge port of a Plus/GX4000?
In that case would cartridges still support the Plus/GX4000 and the writable feature could be ignored?
Quote from: Skunkfish on 16:59, 23 November 21
Very intrigued. I assume the rewritable memory can only be written to via the Play2CPC and not from the standard cartridge port of a Plus/GX4000?
In that case would cartridges still support the Plus/GX4000 and the writable feature could be ignored?
Yes, all your assumptions are correct
I'd like 2 please. :) If that is not overly cheeky!
This device looks pretty good!! 8)
If there is a waiting list I want one.
It will be possible to use the c4cpc as romboard in a cpc with it as in a cpc+?
Quote from: ajcasado on 20:16, 23 November 21
It will be possible to use the c4cpc as romboard in a cpc with it as in a cpc+?
Yes. Gerald has updated the C4CPC menu for that.
Another tempting device for Amstrad Computers. Please may I go on the waiting list for one.
Many thanks.
Might sound frivolous, but with the Play2CPC (Plus2CPC II), the C4CPC, wireless gamepads, the imperium solo and a REMOTE RESET BUTTON it's possible to use the CPC laying in the sofa to play the huge available cpr games collection.
One unit for me please too. With Centronics adaptors or MX-4 IDE connector please.
Put me down for one of these too please!!
...is this device usable with the GX4000?
...no, the GX4000 does not have an expansion port.
Quote from: HAL 6128 on 09:02, 24 November 21
...is this device usable with the GX4000?
The device itself must be connected to a computer, but the cartridges you write can be later used on a GX4000.
One for me; please. ;)
I want one fortunly I don't buy it. I wait for this release.
I get on the waiting list, I'm interested, greetings
Very very nice, put me on list for one Play2CPC (if possible 2), no need anymore for a PluS2CPC, I can wait for the new one.
Thanks to you two for this upcoming device.
The initial post tells: 3 more channels. Is it a typo? I ask because the PlayCity has 6 channels more.
Quote from: GUNHED on 16:18, 24 November 21
The initial post tells: 3 more channels. Is it a type? I ask because the PlayCity has 6 channels more.
Are you sure? I remember the Playcity add 3 ay voices. Maybe I'm wrong. :)
Great! Put me on the list please! (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/grin.gif)
Quote from: GUNHED on 16:18, 24 November 21
The initial post tells: 3 more channels. Is it a type? I ask because the PlayCity has 6 channels more.
Yes, it's 3 channels. It's not a Playcity, it follows the Playcity specification, which means the hardware ports used are the same.
Just wondering, if it's 3 extra sound channels, how does that get merged with the existing 3 channels? The PlayCity has its own audio output and 6 channels, I was under the impression that PlayCity software would only use that and not the on-board channels, but having never seen one, maybe I was under the wrong impression?
Quote from: Cwiiis on 18:16, 24 November 21
Just wondering, if it's 3 extra sound channels, how does that get merged with the existing 3 channels? The PlayCity has its own audio output and 6 channels, I was under the impression that PlayCity software would only use that and not the on-board channels, but having never seen one, maybe I was under the wrong impression?
Afaik Playcity mixes its channels with the (mono) sound which is available on the expansion bus.
Quote from: Cwiiis on 18:16, 24 November 21
Just wondering, if it's 3 extra sound channels, how does that get merged with the existing 3 channels? The PlayCity has its own audio output and 6 channels, I was under the impression that PlayCity software would only use that and not the on-board channels, but having never seen one, maybe I was under the wrong impression?
The 6 channels (3 internal + 3 in expansion) are mixed down and played through the CPC speaker, optionally you can pick the 6 channel mix from the expansion board to an external amplifier.
About Playcity, there are many 9 channel songs that uses both internal and external sound chips, and even more 6 channel songs. Normally in trackers you can assign each channel to either internal or external at your choice.
Quote from: abalore on 17:16, 24 November 21
Yes, it's 3 channels. It's not a Playcity, it follows the Playcity specification, which means the hardware ports used are the same.
Understood. Which chip / which IO addresses of the PlayCity to correspond to the Play2CPC?
And are they left/center/right?
It would be great to know, so I can adapt some of my software supporting PlayCity. :)
Quote from: abalore on 19:21, 24 November 21and played through the CPC speaker,
How do you feed the sound back into the CPC?
One for me ;D
Quote from: eto on 20:18, 24 November 21
How do you feed the sound back into the CPC?
magic, what else?
Quote from: GUNHED on 19:38, 24 November 21
Understood. Which chip / which IO addresses of the PlayCity to correspond to the Play2CPC?
And are they left/center/right?
It would be great to know, so I can adapt some of my software supporting PlayCity. :)
Instead of replying all technical questions, which is out of the scope of this thread, I'll let you know when the wiki page is ready. There you'll have plenty of technical information :)
Sign me up for one please!
1 for me please.
Quote from: Cwiiis on 18:16, 24 November 21
Just wondering, if it's 3 extra sound channels, how does that get merged with the existing 3 channels? The PlayCity has its own audio output and 6 channels, I was under the impression that PlayCity software would only use that and not the on-board channels, but having never seen one, maybe I was under the wrong impression?
The play city provides 6 additional sound channels (And 2 extra noise generators). On a CPC this is passed back into the CPC via the expansion port (Albeit in Mono) and mixed into the standard AY sound making 9 channels and 3 noise generators in total.
On a plus there is no facility to feed audio back in on the expansion port, and because of this the PlayCity also has a stereo 3.5mm stereo jack for the extra channels.
I hope that answers the question?
I'm in for one.
Quote from: CraigsBar on 13:25, 25 November 21
The play city provides 6 additional sound channels (And 2 extra noise generators). On a CPC this is passed back into the CPC via the expansion port (Albeit in Mono) and mixed into the standard AY sound making 9 channels and 3 noise generators in total.
On a plus there is no facility to feed audio back in on the expansion port, and because of this the PlayCity also has a stereo 3.5mm stereo jack for the extra channels.
I hope that answers the question?
With that in mind will the
Play2CPC have an audio out for us Plus owners please?
I have trouble understanding what "The cartridges can be written directly from the CPC." exactly allows. I've never owned a CPC Plus so I'm not very familiar with cartridges in Amstrad context. Are they by standard read only like roms? So is this writing to those modern cartridges using SD cards internally as their storage? Ignoring the musical channels for a second, how this device is supposed to be used on a tradish CPC6128?
Quote from: abalore on 10:47, 24 November 21
The device itself must be connected to a computer, but the cartridges you write can be later used on a GX4000.
ok understand. are those cartridges, if used with a gx4000 then still writable?
Quote from: Singaja on 14:33, 26 November 21
I have trouble understanding what "The cartridges can be written directly from the CPC." exactly allows. I've never owned a CPC Plus so I'm not very familiar with cartridges in Amstrad context. Are they by standard read only like roms? So is this writing to those modern cartridges using SD cards internally as their storage? Ignoring the musical channels for a second, how this device is supposed to be used on a tradish CPC6128?
Normal Plus cartridges are read-only. We developed a RW cartridge, which can be read, written, erased and written again. To erase and write the cartridge you need the Play2CPC device. When used in a normal Plus cartridge port or a GX4000, it behaves as a normal read-only cartridge.
Quote from: HAL 6128 on 21:27, 26 November 21ok understand. are those cartridges, if used with a gx4000 then still writable?
The previous reply should answer your question too.
That means I gain extended memory possibilties for the GX4000 or writing things to the cartridge (as mentioned above). Sorry for my dumb questions - just to make it sure. :)
Dear @abalore (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2595) , please sign me in. You know I want one of this along with Alcon 2020 game.
Thank you.
Quote from: abalore on 15:38, 23 November 21
I'm proud to announce a joint development with TotO, the Play2CPC, an evolution of the Plus2CPC adapter which includes two major new features:
- 3 extra AY sound channels
- Support for rewritable cartridges
The new sound channels follow the Playcity hardware specification, so they are compatible with existing software like Arkos Tracker 2 and Alcon2020.
The cartridges can be written directly from the CPC. They can be used from a cartridge game to store settings and hi-scores, for instance, or be fully written with new games or other contents.
The status of the project is: working prototype
Quote from: CraigsBar on 13:25, 25 November 21
The play city provides 6 additional sound channels (And 2 extra noise generators). On a CPC this is passed back into the CPC via the expansion port (Albeit in Mono) and mixed into the standard AY sound making 9 channels and 3 noise generators in total.
On a plus there is no facility to feed audio back in on the expansion port, and because of this the PlayCity also has a stereo 3.5mm stereo jack for the extra channels.
I hope that answers the question?
Oh, that's interesting - what's missing on a Plus that's there on a CPC with regards to feeding audio back? Kind of a shame, I wonder if a hardware mod is possible/feasible to make up for that deficiency...
Quote from: Cwiiis on 22:27, 27 November 21
Oh, that's interesting - what's missing on a Plus that's there on a CPC with regards to feeding audio back? Kind of a shame, I wonder if a hardware mod is possible/feasible to make up for that deficiency...
It would be better enhanced not just added. If the Playcity input ot the PLus could be in stereo and mixed into the monitor speakers, that would be amazing!
I'm also in for two units.
Quote from: CraigsBar on 01:59, 28 November 21
It would be better enhanced not just added. If the Playcity input ot the PLus could be in stereo and mixed into the monitor speakers, that would be amazing!
I keep wondering about this too. I'm left thinking that if not by the expansion port then maybe via some kind of audio board that can be plugged in to the monitor output of the Plus. That can thru-put the video signals and mix the two audio sources together so that they can be output via the CM14 stereo speakers. But I don't have the skills to design or make such a device nor understand if it would even be possible.
Quote from: Maniac on 13:10, 28 November 21
I keep wondering about this too. I'm left thinking that if not by the expansion port then maybe via some kind of audio board that can be plugged in to the monitor output of the Plus. That can thru-put the video signals and mix the two audio sources together so that they can be output via the CM14 stereo speakers. But I don't have the skills to design or make such a device nor understand if it would even be possible.
Definitely possible and I'll design it if I get a PlayCity, but I'd like to understand how the mixing works on a stock CPC but not a Plus - as far as I know the expansion port is the same(?) If it isn't, a better mod would be something internal to the Plus to make it work like the CPC, if it's possible...
Quote from: Cwiiis on 18:30, 28 November 21
Definitely possible and I'll design it if I get a PlayCity, but I'd like to understand how the mixing works on a stock CPC but not a Plus - as far as I know the expansion port is the same(?) If it isn't, a better mod would be something internal to the Plus to make it work like the CPC, if it's possible...
Yes, the same expansion port, but the Amstrad Plus doesn't have an internal speaker to output the mixed audio.
I imagine that you liked this comment (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/play2cpc-plus2cpc-ii-extra-sound-channels-and-rewritable-cartridges/msg209543/#msg209543), because you can wait for technical informations from the wiki, next. :)
We have an answer around that but not now, because some work in progress and tests to do first.
Hi, I'm interested in one Plu2cpc II , please.
One for me, please
Quote from: TotO on 20:10, 28 November 21
Yes, the same expansion port, but the Amstrad Plus doesn't have an internal speaker to output the mixed audio.
I imagine that you liked this comment (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/play2cpc-plus2cpc-ii-extra-sound-channels-and-rewritable-cartridges/msg209543/#msg209543), because you can wait for technical informations from the wiki, next. :)
We have an answer around that but not now, because some work in progress and tests to do first.
Ah, I think I understand - I guess the PlayCity relies on the whole tape-sound-interference thing to mix sound with the internal sound on a CPC464? I guess the only really viable way to mix sound on the Plus without any hardware modifications in that case would be to dedicate a channel to external sound and use DMA... I guess I should get on with making a 8-pin DIN mixer+a/v passthrough board :)
I'm interested too.
Hi, great! I'm in for one unit, please :)
Just a curiosity question.
Such MSX game https://github.com/GuillianSeed/MetalGear seems to use 16banks of 16kb. We can assume a CPC port would be at least of the same size; probably more due to the potential difference of gfx format.
Would if fit inside such cartridge ?
Quote from: krusty_benediction on 13:08, 01 December 21
Just a curiosity question.
Such MSX game https://github.com/GuillianSeed/MetalGear (https://github.com/GuillianSeed/MetalGear) seems to use 16banks of 16kb. We can assume a CPC port would be at least of the same size; probably more due to the potential difference of gfx format.
Would if fit inside such cartridge ?
16x16Kb = 256Kb and the maximum size of a Plus cart is 512Kb, so I guess short answer: yes.
Quote from: CraigsBar on 13:25, 25 November 21
On a plus there is no facility to feed audio back in on the expansion port, and because of this the PlayCity also has a stereo 3.5mm stereo jack for the extra channels.
Actually my 6128plus can do this too, but way more silent. I found out by chance a while ago, when I did something for LambdaSpeak FS.
How would be the compatibility with existing cartridge projects such as https://auamstrad.es/the-dandanator-entertainment-system/ ? (When looking only on the cartridge functionnality, not the sound)
They do occupy mainly different ROMs (lower than &80 or &80 and higher). But they must provide the lower ROM both at least. So they won't be compatible in general, but by smart programming (same lower ROM content etc.) the may work together. There my not be too much use though.
Quote from: krusty_benediction on 20:59, 19 December 21
How would be the compatibility with existing cartridge projects such as https://auamstrad.es/the-dandanator-entertainment-system/ (https://auamstrad.es/the-dandanator-entertainment-system/) ? (When looking only on the cartridge functionnality, not the sound)
It will be not compatible, because the Play2CPC use Amstrad standard ROM paging and cartridge for new CPC games, while the DES use GameBoy Advance cartridge with a custom ROM paging through Z80 opcodes for new Speccy ports.
Do you plan an USB port to allow cartridge control from a PC ? It seems c4cpc as such functionality, and it is probably a must to have to quickly test cross-developped programs
The C4CPC can already be used on the Plus2CPC and Play2CPC cartridge adapters.
The Play2CPC allows to program a compatible blank cartridge from the CPC. No USB plug.
Quote from: TotO on 14:41, 22 December 21
... allows to program a compatible blank cartridge from the CPC. ...
And that's the cool thing! I love hardware which runs at the CPC and with the CPC!
IMHO it suxx bad if I need to buy a PC just to be able to use hardware for the CPC!
Cheers to 100% CPC / Plus hardware. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
https://youtu.be/9xF5POZ2gq4
https://youtu.be/iGYZ_J-eNZw
Zombi mode : need !
And so Barbarian isnt using any CPC+ feature, just maybe using for good the "mass storage" available ?
Quote from: genesis8 on 16:58, 11 January 22
Zombi mode : need !
And so Barbarian isnt using any CPC+ feature, just maybe using for good the "mass storage" available ?
I have played Barbarian II, Mystical and Tintin on the Moon in the CPC, and you can listen to the music of Navy Seals, Dick Tracy and Robocop II (both title and in-game).
It all depends on the plus feature usage.
And, of course, they all work in a Plus using the Play2CPC adapter.
Didn't expect so much Plus games not to use Plus features. Somehow really sad.
Quote from: JayBlood on 16:48, 24 November 21
Are you sure? I remember the Playcity add 3 ay voices. Maybe I'm wrong. :)
For Cyber Chicken all 6 channels were used.
Quote from: GUNHED on 00:45, 23 January 22
For Cyber Chicken all 6 channels were used.
But twice the same 3 channels, if I remember well?
??? Don't know what you mean.
The game songs were played with the internal PSG, because I got them in that format.
That way the six channels of the PlayCity were free for stereo sound effects.
I still wouldn't know a program to compile a song for the PlayCity.
But let's come back to the topic eventually.
Is there / Will there be an application to make songs for the extra sound channels of the Play2CPC?
Quote from: GUNHED on 19:28, 23 January 22 ??? Don't know what you mean.The game songs were played with the internal PSG, because I got them in that format.That way the six channels of the PlayCity were free for stereo sound effects.
It is your code. ;D
It use six channels for the Sfx, but it sound like 3 channels, because the same data are sent to the left and right. But that is not a problem at all, I have just remembered that. :-*
Quote from: GUNHED on 19:28, 23 January 22
I still wouldn't know a program to compile a song for the PlayCity.
Is there / Will there be an application to make songs for the extra sound channels of the Play2CPC?
You can use Arkos Tracker 2 or any other softwares by adapting the player to use the PlayCity ports instead.
Quote from: TotO on 19:59, 23 January 22
You can use Arkos Tracker 2 or any other softwares by adapting the player to use the PlayCity ports instead.
Good to hear that Arkos Tracker 2 can do this now. It wasn't clear to me before.
Yes, Arkos Tracker 2 do it since four years ago and include all the players. ;)
Well, then back to the Play2CPC. :)
Design and print test for the Play2CPC shell
A small gallery of the finished Play2CPC
The design goal was to make a small device that takes no space behind the computer and don't block the screen view
And also don't have bright colors, LEDs or stickers, to not distract the player attention during the intense gameplay sessions :D
I really like the last pictures! 8)
How about a 2nd version or with switch and no audio circuitry for those already with playcity. Seems a pity for a playcity owner to remove it and lose 3 audio channels in the process.
Quote from: zhulien on 15:31, 03 February 22
How about a 2nd version or with switch and no audio circuitry for those already with playcity. Seems a pity for a playcity owner to remove it and lose 3 audio channels in the process.
That would be the Plus2CPC - which the Play2CPC is based on.
What's the price difference between the 2 mx4 vertical versions?
Quote from: zhulien on 15:52, 03 February 22
What's the price difference between the 2 mx4 vertical versions?
Hello, the Play2CPC will come in only one fashion: edge connector with 3D printed enclosure. The enclosure is mandatory to prevent connecting the cartridge backwards or bad aligned. And a MX4 connector has no point for the intended usage. After long debate about these two subjects we made these decisions.
About the price, it will be bigger than Plus2CPC because it has many more components, but the good news is that the Alcon2020 physical edition will include a voucher to redeem part of the price.
Quote from: abalore on 19:25, 03 February 22edge connector with 3D printed enclosure
How about the Centronics computers? The Plus, Schneider CPC and the reimported (US) Indescomp CPC6128 models won't be able to use it with edge connector.
Quote from: eto on 00:30, 04 February 22
How about the Centronics computers? The Plus, Schneider CPC and the reimported (US) Indescomp CPC6128 models won't be able to use it with edge connector.
For those I have a very compact and solid adapter that will share soon. All the developments are having delays because of the chinese new year.
First final version, fully featured Play2CPC
(https://abalore.com/images/play2cpc_proto.jpg)
(Test print for text alignment, not final quality)
Great! It looks awesome and is quite small. :)
Quote from: GUNHED on 21:18, 17 March 22Great! It looks awesome and is quite small. :)
Yes. It is the size of a one-to-one connector! :)
Quote from: TotO on 12:24, 18 March 22Quote from: GUNHED on 21:18, 17 March 22Great! It looks awesome and is quite small. :)
Yes. It is the size of a one-to-one connector! :)
Yes! but with 45 electronic parts inside, including 6 integrated circuits!
if there are only 3 sound channels on this card, but 6 on the playcity, and 3 inside the CPC that run at a different speed than the playcity... how will the 3 sound channels + internal CPC 3 channels map to that of the 6 channels on playcity + CPC 3 channels?
The Play2CPC use the default configuration of most of the PlayCity programs, like ALCON 2020.
Few programs using 9ch AY will be not replayed, because it was not on the PlayCity base spec.
Batch production begins!
(https://abalore.com/images/play2cpc_batch.jpg)
Batchman Begins!!! ;D ( ok... -> [ ] )
Great new! ;)
Looks pretty neat!
Would be interested and with a centronics converter for my German 6128. Thx!
Same here :) :) :)
great work!!!
Hi, I would like to reserve one, thank you!
Quote from: rickyordi on 00:54, 13 April 22Hi, I would like to reserve one, thank you!
added to the list
A little question: Where found blanks cartridges?
Quote from: JayBlood on 23:07, 13 April 22A little question: Where found blanks cartridges?
patience, patience ;)
:D :D
Quote from: JayBlood on 00:19, 15 April 22:D :D
as far as i know, the playcity can already run with a C4CPC
Good new, I get one. ;) Thanks!
Hi
I would like to reserve one too, plz
Quote from: roudoudou on 06:14, 15 April 22Quote from: JayBlood on 00:19, 15 April 22:D :D
as far as i know, the playcity can already run with a C4CPC
Yes, it's 100% compatible
Quote from: NiNxPe on 12:28, 15 April 22Hi
I would like to reserve one too, plz
Sure, added to the list
@abalore I need one too!! thanks!
(https://abalore.com/images/play2cpc_sticker.jpg)
beauty 8)
;D wow effect !!!
So good! Great choice of colours. ;) :)
Quote from: TotO on 20:21, 23 November 21Quote from: ajcasado on 20:16, 23 November 21It will be possible to use the c4cpc as romboard in a cpc with it as in a cpc+?
Yes. Gerald has updated the C4CPC menu for that.
I missed the addition of that use case to the C4CPC on CPC+ and couldn't turn it up in a search yet; anyone got a link to how it's done?
Quote from: OCT on 09:09, 22 April 22I missed the addition of that use case to the C4CPC on CPC+ and couldn't turn it up in a search yet; anyone got a link to how it's done?
You have to update to v1.4 that was made to be compatible with the Plus2CPC and Play2CPC interfaces.
First post updated. The Play2CPC NOW mainly features:
- Extra audio capabilities
- Sound mix into the CPC speaker or stereo audio jack
- Full Amstrad Plus ROM decoding
- Extra on-board V-ROM for amazing new AAA games
- General purpose programmable raster interrupt
- Compatible with standard Amstrad cartridges and new extended formats
- 100% compatible with C4CPC
- Support for RW cartridges to save/update games, scores and settings
- Boot switch and reset button commodities
:o
Quote from: TotO on 09:31, 22 April 22Quote from: OCT on 09:09, 22 April 22I missed the addition of that use case to the C4CPC on CPC+ and couldn't turn it up in a search yet; anyone got a link to how it's done?
You have to update to v1.4 that was made to be compatible with the Plus2CPC and Play2CPC interfaces.
OIC you mean 1.00.04 as in https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/c4cpc-fw-update/25/#subject_126876 and that doesn't allow adding ROMs beyond 0+7, i.e. won't make C4CPC a "ROMboard" or "ROMbox" of sorts, but rather avoids a ROM conflict with one of these?
I mean the CprSelect program version v1.4 that allow the C4CPC to be used on the CPC to boot ROM (like diagnostic RAM) or launch the selected CPR files from many CPC games converted to the ROM format.
The Play2CPC use the standard Amstrad cartridge enclosure, so you can use the C4CPC since on it.
I have attached the file here, so you can replace the previous one. (CPC or PLUS is autodetected)
A cartridge could be used as ROMBox patching the OS to read initialize and use ROM numbers from &80, but it's a purely software issue, not related to the adapted itself
Play2CPC assembling... Courage! ;D
(https://c.tenor.com/frgikc8t4yEAAAAC/childish-nose.gif)
First post updated (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/play2cpc-plus2cpc-ii-extra-sound-channels-and-rewritable-cartridges) with a lot of cool things! 8)
AAA games coming 8)
working working !
Quote from: TotO on 16:07, 23 April 22Play2CPC assembling... Courage! ;D
(https://c.tenor.com/frgikc8t4yEAAAAC/childish-nose.gif)
working working!
Customized gamepad :D
(https://abalore.com/images/play2cpc_gamepad.jpg)
Can't wait to get this and Alcon :)
Quote from: LewisCPC on 22:53, 11 May 22Can't wait to get this and Alcon :)
Your order was assembled yesterday. ;)
Quote from: TotO on 23:31, 11 May 22Quote from: LewisCPC on 22:53, 11 May 22Can't wait to get this and Alcon :)
Your order was assembled yesterday. ;)
Whoop whoop!
Quote from: abalore on 11:01, 13 April 22Quote from: rickyordi on 00:54, 13 April 22Hi, I would like to reserve one, thank you!
added to the list
I just made the payment by request of TotO..
Hello! Could you please add me to the list?
To got your Play2CPC, just contact Abalore (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/pm/?sa=send;u=2595) :)
(https://i55.servimg.com/u/f55/18/66/82/40/play2c12.jpg)
I'm on the waiting list from time ago :).
@gurneyh @respergu @genesis8 @entelle42 @VincentD @jesusdelmas @greatstone @SkulleateR @ajcasado @Richard_Lloyd @JayBlood @dragon @cosa_nostra-6128 @craem @Maniac @cpcbaio @Proteus @Apollo @NiNxPe @chilli_taff The orders for Play2CPC and centronics adapters are now open. The waiting list order will be respected for those who make the payment before monday morning, after that it will be in payment order.
The orders will be delivered in boxed version.
Pricing is 59€ for the Play2CPC and 12€ for each adapter, plus 9.90€ shipping. Payment by paypal (as friend) to contact@abalore.com
It's still possible to buy the Play2CPC bundled with Alcon2020, if you are interested in this option please contact by PM.
Can you great creators of this wonderful device please do me a favor?
What features have the Play2CPC and the PlayCity in common? Or let me ask in a better way: Which machine code will run on both of them? (Thinking of video raster interrupt and sound). Or best attempt of asking this question: Which I/O ports are common and work in the same way?
Would love to support the subset of features of both devices in my future software. :)
You can use the &F888/&F988 audio ports and the CRTC cursor registers to program the raster interruption located at &0066. Both works on PlayCity and Play2CPC. More informations for developers will come asap.
Payment sent. :) Thanks, Abalore.
Payment sent I left the alcyon2020 cartridge for the future if someone left.
Its much money the two things at same time for me.
Payment sent, hoping to get the Alcon 2020 as well if possible :)
Did the solution of how to mix the extra audio in to the monitor speakers of the Plus models ever get sorted please?
Quote from: Maniac on 19:23, 27 May 22Did the solution of how to mix the extra audio in to the monitor speakers of the Plus models ever get sorted please?
That's not doable without additional elements, because you can't route anything to the audio output connector of the Plus from the expansion port. The same happens with the CPC, you can mix into the internal speaker with precise knowledge of the CPC schematics, but not into the audio jack.
So we made it in this way:
- You can hear the mix into the CPC speaker (or disable the mix with a switch)
- You always have the external sound in stereo in the Play2CPC connector
- You always have the internal sound in stereo in the CPC or Plus connector
so at the end you have the full mix in Mono or all independent channels in two jacks.
In my home arrangement I have two pairs of small external speakers, because I like to control individually the volume for music and sfx, but you can use an audio mixer too.
SURROUND SOUND !!! 8)
Hi Abalore !!! One for me and alcon2020 cartridge !!
And Paid for the 2 I had on the wait list. (2x Play2CPC boards 2 x Centronics Adaptor and Postage)
The Play2CPC and the centronic adapter would be compatible with a 6128+ ?
In this case I will need one, I mainly use a 6128+.
Quote from: rickyordi on 02:05, 03 June 22The Play2CPC and the centronic adapter would be compatible with a 6128+ ?
Oui ! :)
It the same port right?. The plus and the solavox centronics port (or Schneider).
I mean the centronics adapter make it compatible with the three models not only plus.
I think his question was about the Plus compatibility for this CPC interface if he use the adapter. :)
Quote from: TotO on 07:18, 03 June 22Quote from: rickyordi on 02:05, 03 June 22The Play2CPC and the centronic adapter would be compatible with a 6128+ ?
Oui ! :)
Thanks ! it's mainly to be able to take advantage of the other features of the Play2CPC, since the cartridge port already exists on the 6128+.
So, PM for the adapter :)
The Play2CPC boxes are here! ;)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f55/18/66/82/40/img_6612.jpg)
:P
Quote from: Cwiiis on 20:13, 29 November 21Quote from: TotO on 20:10, 28 November 21Yes, the same expansion port, but the Amstrad Plus doesn't have an internal speaker to output the mixed audio.
I imagine that you liked this comment (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/play2cpc-plus2cpc-ii-extra-sound-channels-and-rewritable-cartridges/msg209543/#msg209543), because you can wait for technical informations from the wiki, next. :)
We have an answer around that but not now, because some work in progress and tests to do first.
Ah, I think I understand - I guess the PlayCity relies on the whole tape-sound-interference thing to mix sound with the internal sound on a CPC464? I guess the only really viable way to mix sound on the Plus without any hardware modifications in that case would be to dedicate a channel to external sound and use DMA... I guess I should get on with making a 8-pin DIN mixer+a/v passthrough board :)
@Cwiiis have you thought any more about this?
Whilst I love the idea of surround sound from my Plus I don't have much space on my desk for extra stuff.
Quote from: abalore on 19:43, 27 May 22Quote from: Maniac on 19:23, 27 May 22Did the solution of how to mix the extra audio in to the monitor speakers of the Plus models ever get sorted please?
That's not doable without additional elements, because you can't route anything to the audio output connector of the Plus from the expansion port. The same happens with the CPC, you can mix into the internal speaker with precise knowledge of the CPC schematics, but not into the audio jack.
So we made it in this way:
- You can hear the mix into the CPC speaker (or disable the mix with a switch)
- You always have the external sound in stereo in the Play2CPC connector
- You always have the internal sound in stereo in the CPC or Plus connector
so at the end you have the full mix in Mono or all independent channels in two jacks.
In my home arrangement I have two pairs of small external speakers, because I like to control individually the volume for music and sfx, but you can use an audio mixer too.
But the expansion port don't receive the internal sound?. At least can be mixed and sound in a scart cable.
I know but with the Plus having stereo speakers it would be great if we could mix the audio via some other route:
From that post from
@Cwiiis:
"
I guess I should get on with making a 8-pin DIN mixer+a/v passthrough board"That would be my ideal scenario. I.e. take the audio out of the Play2CPC or PlayCity from its audio jack and via a mixer and connections mix that with Plus audio from monitor DIN both out the stereo monitor speakers of the Plus.
Yes, the best to do for the stereo sound (CPC or Plus) is to use the two jacks connectors and next "as peoples prefer".
- Connecting directly two pairs of PC speakers, for a 4.0 suround sound. 8)
- Mixing the two sources to one pair of PC speakers, for a stereo sound.
- Mixing the two sources to the TV set or Plus monitor, if no room left.
I have a circuit I'm working on for Plus audio mixing, I hope to prototype it within the next few weeks - https://ko-fi.com/i/IF2F7CXJL5
Please add me down for 1 centronics version and 1 edge connector version. Thanks
Quote from: zhulien on 23:10, 04 June 22Please add me down for 1 centronics version and 1 edge connector version. Thanks
The Play2CPC is only edge version, and then there is a centronics-to-edge adapter.
https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/compact-centronics-to-edge-adapter/
Please send me PM for details
Quote from: abalore on 19:43, 27 May 22Quote from: Maniac on 19:23, 27 May 22Did the solution of how to mix the extra audio in to the monitor speakers of the Plus models ever get sorted please?
That's not doable without additional elements, because you can't route anything to the audio output connector of the Plus from the expansion port. The same happens with the CPC, you can mix into the internal speaker with precise knowledge of the CPC schematics, but not into the audio jack.
So we made it in this way:
- You can hear the mix into the CPC speaker (or disable the mix with a switch)
- You always have the external sound in stereo in the Play2CPC connector
- You always have the internal sound in stereo in the CPC or Plus connector
so at the end you have the full mix in Mono or all independent channels in two jacks.
In my home arrangement I have two pairs of small external speakers, because I like to control individually the volume for music and sfx, but you can use an audio mixer too.
Quote from: abalore on 19:43, 27 May 22Quote from: Maniac on 19:23, 27 May 22Did the solution of how to mix the extra audio in to the monitor speakers of the Plus models ever get sorted please?
That's not doable without additional elements, because you can't route anything to the audio output connector of the Plus from the expansion port. The same happens with the CPC, you can mix into the internal speaker with precise knowledge of the CPC schematics, but not into the audio jack.
So we made it in this way:
- You can hear the mix into the CPC speaker (or disable the mix with a switch)
- You always have the external sound in stereo in the Play2CPC connector
- You always have the internal sound in stereo in the CPC or Plus connector
so at the end you have the full mix in Mono or all independent channels in two jacks.
In my home arrangement I have two pairs of small external speakers, because I like to control individually the volume for music and sfx, but you can use an audio mixer too.
Here is simply the solution to enjoy six audio channels on the same pair of stereo speakers:
Quote from: rickyordi on 22:47, 05 June 22Quote from: abalore on 19:43, 27 May 22Quote from: Maniac on 19:23, 27 May 22Did the solution of how to mix the extra audio in to the monitor speakers of the Plus models ever get sorted please?
That's not doable without additional elements, because you can't route anything to the audio output connector of the Plus from the expansion port. The same happens with the CPC, you can mix into the internal speaker with precise knowledge of the CPC schematics, but not into the audio jack.
So we made it in this way:
- You can hear the mix into the CPC speaker (or disable the mix with a switch)
- You always have the external sound in stereo in the Play2CPC connector
- You always have the internal sound in stereo in the CPC or Plus connector
so at the end you have the full mix in Mono or all independent channels in two jacks.
In my home arrangement I have two pairs of small external speakers, because I like to control individually the volume for music and sfx, but you can use an audio mixer too.
Quote from: abalore on 19:43, 27 May 22Quote from: Maniac on 19:23, 27 May 22Did the solution of how to mix the extra audio in to the monitor speakers of the Plus models ever get sorted please?
That's not doable without additional elements, because you can't route anything to the audio output connector of the Plus from the expansion port. The same happens with the CPC, you can mix into the internal speaker with precise knowledge of the CPC schematics, but not into the audio jack.
So we made it in this way:
- You can hear the mix into the CPC speaker (or disable the mix with a switch)
- You always have the external sound in stereo in the Play2CPC connector
- You always have the internal sound in stereo in the CPC or Plus connector
so at the end you have the full mix in Mono or all independent channels in two jacks.
In my home arrangement I have two pairs of small external speakers, because I like to control individually the volume for music and sfx, but you can use an audio mixer too.
Here is simply the solution to enjoy six audio channels on the same pair of stereo speakers:
This is unlikely to work satisfactorily and could even be dangerous by connecting grounds that would otherwise be separate (ask someone that knows more about what they're talking about with that last bit :))
As these are audio outputs, I don't see the problem, but you're right let's stay vigilant... :-\
looks incredible, put me down for one on the next batch please.
Nothing arrived here. Few weeks ago, I make payment. Some news?
We are currently assembling the Play2CPC / Alcon 2020 combo box.
Next, we will do the Play2CPC box version. Please, be patient. :)
Happy Birthday Tot0!!! :) :) :)
Enjoy your great day!!! :) :) :)
If I would still own a real CPC, I would buy a copy too. "Alcon" delivers real arcade-quality on a machine, that was made for Roland in time.
And the hardware for the extra sound-channels makes the audio fatter than fat!
Ok Toto. No problem, It's just for have news. Regards.;)
2x for me
My CPC crashes reliably when playing Alcon 2020 with the Play2CPC. Sometimes after a few minutes, sometime immediately. At least once I could see that it drew corrupt tiles to the screen just before crashing.
I have a second CPC where it works better, but also there it crashed twice (both when I lost my last life).
Any idea what could cause this? Extension port has been cleaned and otherwise has no issues with other extensions.
Update 1: on a 464 it doesn't work at all. Sometimes I get total garbage on screen but usually the screen just stays black. The 464 has a built in Vortex SP512 ram extension which might be in conflict.
Quote from: eto on 18:00, 12 July 22My CPC crashes reliably when playing Alcon 2020 with the Play2CPC. Sometimes after a few minutes, sometime immediately. At least once I could see that it drew corrupt tiles to the screen just before crashing.
I have a second CPC where it works better, but also there it crashed twice (both when I lost my last life).
Any idea what could cause this? Extension port has been cleaned and otherwise has no issues with other extensions.
Update 1: on a 464 it doesn't work at all. Sometimes I get total garbage on screen but usually the screen just stays black. The 464 has a built in Vortex SP512 ram extension which might be in conflict.
The RAM expansions shouldn't affect the Play2CPC, but maybe it's drawing too much current. Do you have other cartridges to try or the Centronics adapter to check the Play2CPC on a Plus?
Hi
@abalore , is there one Play2CPC for me available ?
Currently, would be kindly interested in a cart+Alcon pack.
Thanks.
Quote from: Philippe Lardenois on 12:31, 16 July 22Hi @abalore , is there one Play2CPC for me available ?
Currently, would be kindly interested in a cart+Alcon pack.
Thanks.
the second batch is already closed, but I can add you to the waiting list for the third batch.
Ok great. Will wait for your PM. No hurry.
Thanks.
Cheers
This thread grows. Hard to find particular data. So I ask, could be of common interest. :)
Is there a Play2CPC with an M4 compatible plug? ???
In this case one could use the regular Centronics to M4 adapter cable. 8)
Quote from: GUNHED on 15:45, 19 July 22This thread grows. Hard to find particular data. So I ask, could be of common interest. :)
Is there a Play2CPC with an M4 compatible plug? ???
In this case one could use the regular Centronics to M4 adapter cable. 8)
Play2CPC and M4 work perfectly together if you don't activate the cartridge emulation in the M4. You can plug a MX4 board, then the M4 on it, and the Play2CPC with a MX4-to-edge adapter
Well, I talked about the M4 connector - NOT the M4 expansion. :) Else my text wouldn't make any sense. :) Tot0's Mother MX4 plugs. Well, I forget the X letter. :-\
Quote from: GUNHED on 16:08, 19 July 22Well, I talked about the M4 connector - NOT the M4 expansion. :) Else my text wouldn't make any sense. :) Tot0's Mother MX4 plugs. Well, I forget the X letter. :-\
Ok, there is no Play2CPC with MX4 connector, but as I said you have MX4 to edge adapters.
Edge connectors are dodgy and not reliable in my experience. In case the Play2CPC only has edge plugs and not MX4 then this would be a disadvantage imho. My suggestion would be to create a series with MX4 plugs (or any other non-sliding connector). I would definitely buy one then. :) :) :)
Any news on when the standalone Play2CPC interfaces will be sent.
The Play2CPC box version will be for September now. Because, closed factories during July/August and many peoples in vacations asking to not ship anything before. (that not mean we are doing nothing :p)
Yo
@abalore! Any news on when the writable carts, and the software to write them with on the CPC natively?
Cheers. Loving Alcon and the Play2CPC :)
Hi, I have received my play2cpc. I have tested it with Alcon2020 but do not notice any "sound" difference from running Alcon2020 in the standard cartridge plug without play2cpc.
I run it in a 6128 plus.
I recognise I am pretty "deaf", but maybe I am doing something wrong, as the device has some switches. How should the switches be? and should I use the output in play2cpc, I actually get a very low volume there.
Anyway, for me, it is a very convenient device, as I have also a normal 6128 and a 464.
About a couple of days ago I tried to connect a C4CPC through Abalore's Play2CPC connector on an Amstrad CPC6128 (old version). The result is that in addition to not having worked, the C4CPC no longer works. Did I do something wrong? ::)
P.S. - Alcon 2020 works perfectly and is beautiful! :P
Quote from: Mr. DVG on 16:45, 14 August 22About a couple of days ago I tried to connect a C4CPC through Abalore's Play2CPC connector on an Amstrad CPC6128 (old version). The result is that in addition to not having worked, the C4CPC no longer works. Did I do something wrong? ::)
P.S. - Alcon 2020 works perfectly and is beautiful! :P
Do you have your C4CPC enclosed?
Quote from: asertus on 09:58, 10 August 22Hi, I have received my play2cpc. I have tested it with Alcon2020 but do not notice any "sound" difference from running Alcon2020 in the standard cartridge plug without play2cpc.
I run it in a 6128 plus.
I recognise I am pretty "deaf", but maybe I am doing something wrong, as the device has some switches. How should the switches be? and should I use the output in play2cpc, I actually get a very low volume there.
Anyway, for me, it is a very convenient device, as I have also a normal 6128 and a 464.
In the Plus, you have the extra channels in the Play2CPC audio connector, try connecting speakers there (pressing firmly the first time)
Quote from: abalore on 17:14, 14 August 22Quote from: Mr. DVG on 16:45, 14 August 22About a couple of days ago I tried to connect a C4CPC through Abalore's Play2CPC connector on an Amstrad CPC6128 (old version). The result is that in addition to not having worked, the C4CPC no longer works. Did I do something wrong? ::)
P.S. - Alcon 2020 works perfectly and is beautiful! :P
Do you have your C4CPC enclosed?
The C4CPC is not mine, but a friend of mine.
I connect the C4CPC to the Play2CPC in a regular CPC6128 on a daily basis. Furthermore, I designed the Play2CPC specifically to be compatible with the C4CPC (wide power rails, customized software in both devices...) and never had a single problem.
There are, however, some basic guidelines to connect the C4CPC or any cartridge:
- Never connect with the computer powered on
- Never connect without the cartridge/C4CPC enclosure, or the Play2CPC enclosure, because it may lead to a bad alignment of the connector pins or even to be connected in reverse
You could post a close picture of the C4CPC so we can check for external signs of damage.
Hi Abalore. Some news? ;)
What I can say is the Play2CPC is the more impressive interface ever done to play games on CPC. It use a lot of electronics parts to allows amazing features (some used on ALCON 2020) and require real skill to be soldered by hand on both side of the PCB to fit.
Abalore do is best. We have secured all the critical parts since months to offer you the Play2CPC, but it require more time than expected to deliver it currently. We do our best to finish to ship the combo version with the ALCON 2020 second batch. Next, we will start to build the box versions and will open a dedicated website (ready since 3 months ago) with some surprises. :)
Thanks, Toto. ;)
Just received! ;D
How do I order one?
Is it possible to select a 1MHZ clock for the YMZ chips like you can do with a Play2CPC or will it be always fixed at the default 2MHz?
It is 1MHz by default, like the CPC and most programs using the PlayCity (Alcon 2020 too).
Quote from: zhulien on 02:51, 16 September 22How do I order one?
Sorry, I have missed this post. Please, contact
@abalore ! :)
More news on this soon ;)
Few Play2CPC combo with Alcon 2020 left to build and ship. Thank you for waiting. :)
Any chance to produce a Play2CPC with Centronics connector? Or with MX4 plug?
Would be great for 6128 and 6128plus :)
Quote from: GUNHED on 14:08, 18 October 22Any chance to produce a Play2CPC with Centronics connector? Or with MX4 plug?
You can ask a Compact Centronics Adapter from
@abalore for the Play2CPC.
Quote from: TotO on 11:33, 18 October 22Few Play2CPC combo with Alcon 2020 left to build and ship. Thank you for waiting. :)
Looking forward to mine arriving!
Thanks for the update.
Can you let me know where in the queue my order is please. I'd love to play Alcon the way it was meant to be played but currently can't :(
I really hope my 2 Play2CPC devices are getting closer to the top of the list now.
Thanks
Craig.
Quote from: TotO on 14:45, 18 October 22Quote from: GUNHED on 14:08, 18 October 22Any chance to produce a Play2CPC with Centronics connector? Or with MX4 plug?
You can ask a Compact Centronics Adapter from @abalore for the Play2CPC.
Any kind of adaptors with PCB edge are dodgy, therefore I want to omit the edge problematic. For this reason I did ask for a Centronics or MX4 version. Will this ever be made?
Quote from: GUNHED on 13:06, 23 November 22Any kind of adaptors with PCB edge are dodgy, therefore I want to omit the edge problematic. For this reason I did ask for a Centronics or MX4 version. Will this ever be made?
The edge slot and plug are brand new. There is no reason that will make it not properly working, except if you have already issues with your Centronics port. Now, if you prefer, you can use an edge to centronics ribbon cable instead (to be not rigid). :)
Quote from: GUNHED on 13:06, 23 November 22Any kind of adaptors with PCB edge are dodgy, therefore I want to omit the edge problematic. For this reason I did ask for a Centronics or MX4 version. Will this ever be made?
Honestly the adapter is a pretty solid thing, it almost feels like a "native" adapter.
. wrong thread - please delete
Quote from: eto on 14:04, 23 November 22Quote from: GUNHED on 13:06, 23 November 22Any kind of adaptors with PCB edge are dodgy, therefore I want to omit the edge problematic. For this reason I did ask for a Centronics or MX4 version. Will this ever be made?
Honestly the adapter is a pretty solid thing, it almost feels like a "native" adapter.
I'm sure it is! :) :) :) It looks very good! :) :) :) However, 'edge' remains 'edge'. And 'edge' will can wobble a bit if you move something on the desk. And I really don't like a crash that much. It's just my personal experience. But at CPC meetings my friends seem to prefer Centronics over pcb-edge adaptors too. All this thing is of interest for 6128plus and Geman CPC6128 only anyway. Never mind. :)
Quote from: TotO on 13:15, 23 November 22Quote from: GUNHED on 13:06, 23 November 22Any kind of adaptors with PCB edge are dodgy, therefore I want to omit the edge problematic. For this reason I did ask for a Centronics or MX4 version. Will this ever be made?
The edge slot and plug are brand new. There is no reason that will make it not properly working, except if you have already issues with your Centronics port. Now, if you prefer, you can use an edge to centronics ribbon cable instead (to be not rigid). :)
Well, I aim to omit edge completely to have a stable system. With stable I mean here in the way of having 'movement' on my desk - and no crash.
Hello.
I don't want to be annoying, but when have you scheduled a delivery to my adress, since the time?
Thank you in advance for your answer, Abalore.
Best regards. ;)
i have recieved mine,but as mi cpcs are out, i only can admire the box. :doh: :doh:
@JayBlood Sorry, I can't said more than my previous answer to you, 3 months ago. :(
The Alcon 2020 combo versions was not all shipped, so the Play2CPC box alone are delayed.
Argh. thanks for answer Toto.
Good evening, I am interested in a copy. Can you send me the information to add me to the waiting list or send it to me?
THANK YOU
Hi, any news about the wiki page for play2cpc?
Mostly interested in some code examples, channels, video raster, I guess they are basically like playcity. but to be sure..
I hope soon some emulator adds this device to make tests easier.., I guess cpcec with Playcity would be similar..
It's been more than 6 months since I received it, better late than never ;) ,
and it works well with Alcon2000 and the C4CPC, so happy :D
Is there a developer documentation for the Play2CPC already? I would love to support it with my software. :) :) :)
Your mailbox is full!
Are you still making these up?
From what I've read here in other threads, these are not been made. Support and building them sounds like a pain and prices of parts have gone up. XC95144XL used for this are now around $40AUD each.
I've messaged
@gerald to purchase blank PCBs or even order my own board, but need the gerber for that. Plus the JED for programming the CPLD. No response. Full mailbox makes sense then
From what I've read so far the Xilinx was memory mapped to pass instructions to the firmware on the MCU to interface to the menu system. It also does the noca$h ACID replacement inside the Xilinx. The flash memory to CPC is the easy part, where the MCU just controls the upper address lines to change which ROM is being accessed, and provides a mechanism to upload new ROMs. Would have been a fair bit of time and work to put that all together into what it was
Quote from: darkhalf on 05:00, 14 February 24From what I've read here in other threads, these are not been made. Support and building them sounds like a pain and prices of parts have gone up. XC95144XL used for this are now around $40AUD each.
I've messaged @gerald to purchase blank PCBs or even order my own board, but need the gerber for that. Plus the JED for programming the CPLD. No response. Full mailbox makes sense then
From what I've read so far the Xilinx was memory mapped to pass instructions to the firmware on the MCU to interface to the menu system. It also does the noca$h ACID replacement inside the Xilinx. The flash memory to CPC is the easy part, where the MCU just controls the upper address lines to change which ROM is being accessed, and provides a mechanism to upload new ROMs. Would have been a fair bit of time and work to put that all together into what it was
I think you are talking about another device.
Quote from: asertus on 18:24, 24 January 23Hi, any news about the wiki page for play2cpc?
Mostly interested in some code examples, channels, video raster, I guess they are basically like playcity. but to be sure..
I hope soon some emulator adds this device to make tests easier.., I guess cpcec with Playcity would be similar..
ACE-DL emulate the Play2CPC (cartridge + one YM + VROM)
QuoteI think you are talking about another device.
@abalore sorry the above was the C4CPC :picard:
For the Play2CPC, currently waiting for a shipping price. Last message was 24 Jan:
QuoteI have some of them of the v4.3 version (the latest). At a price of 25 euro without enclosure. I have to check the shipping cost.
Please reply back when you get a chance and I can sort that one
Quote from: darkhalf on 19:27, 14 February 24QuoteI think you are talking about another device.
@abalore sorry the above was the C4CPC :picard:
For the Play2CPC, currently waiting for a shipping price. Last message was 24 Jan:
QuoteI have some of them of the v4.3 version (the latest). At a price of 25 euro without enclosure. I have to check the shipping cost.
Please reply back when you get a chance and I can sort that one
Hello, that's the Plus2CPC (no extra sound channels or VROM). I'll comr back to you regarding that ASAP
QuoteHello, that's the Plus2CPC (no extra sound channels or VROM). I'll comr back to you regarding that ASAP
Thanks. I'm just looking to use the board for cart development, so don't need the extra channels etc
So, is the Play2CPC still being made up and who could I order one from? Thanks :)