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Title: Video failure
Post by: landex on 19:50, 18 April 14
'Hi to all,

Iam new here. Ibought a cpc464 and it seems that the screen every 2, 3 sec shacks with the scart cable. And if  I put  a Video adapter it doesnt shakes anymore but of course the colors are B/W.
Anyone knows  why?
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: TFM on 19:53, 18 April 14
Hi and welcome here. Did you try another monitor?
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: landex on 20:00, 18 April 14
i dont have a monitor,  only TV ;(
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: landex on 22:36, 18 April 14
I think i found the problem: My LCD TV its too modern. Can it be?
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: Bryce on 00:02, 19 April 14
Hi and welcome,
         unfortunately your TV isn't able to lock on to the exact sync frequency the CPC is producing. Video adapter is a very broad term, which type do you mean? If your TV has S-Video, it might be worth trying to connect via that?

Bryce.
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: landex on 14:00, 19 April 14
On S-Video works, but only B/W.
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: Bryce on 14:03, 19 April 14
If it's B&W then it's not S-Video, your TV is only detecting or displaying the Composite part of the signal. Without hardware like this: Limited batch of new S-Video Adapters. (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/limited-batch-of-new-s-video-adapters/msg60857/#msg60857) you can't get an S-Video signal from a CPC.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: landex on 15:21, 19 April 14
Quote from: Bryce on 14:03, 19 April 14
If it's B&W then it's not S-Video, your TV is only detecting or displaying the Composite part of the signal. Without hardware like this: Limited batch of new S-Video Adapters. (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/amstrad-cpc-hardware/limited-batch-of-new-s-video-adapters/msg60857/#msg60857) you can't get an S-Video signal from a CPC.

Bryce.

Sorry Bryce, you right: it is not S-Vide, its composite.

Now I try , connect the scart on my  VCR input, ad it stil B/W. Only if I connect the scart directly to the TV i get color, but it shakes.

I have a E-motion plasma TV.
 
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: TotO on 15:30, 19 April 14
Probably your VCR need to set the input signal type from the scart cable.

Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: landex on 17:20, 19 April 14
What if i buy a Scart -> Vga cable to connect the 464 to VGA input of my TV or  Monitor?

Has anyone try it?
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: TFM on 18:17, 19 April 14
Quote from: landex on 22:36, 18 April 14
I think i found the problem: My LCD TV its too modern. Can it be?


Absolutely, that can happen. Maybe you can check with a monitor or tv at a friends place, then you know that CPC and cable are ok.




Quote from: landex on 15:21, 19 April 14I have a E-motion plasma TV.


Yep, all this emotions can shake a pic quite well! :)
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: landex on 18:29, 19 April 14
Quote from: TFM on 18:17, 19 April 14



Yep, all this emotions can shake a pic quite well!
:)

I see it must be the  bloody TV

Thanks a lot to all
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: TFM on 19:42, 19 April 14
Try to get an old Sony Trinitron. Reliable and superb picture.
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: Bryce on 20:12, 19 April 14
Does the TV have a seperate S-Video input (4 pin round connector) ?

Bryce.
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: landex on 13:09, 20 April 14
Quote from: Bryce on 20:12, 19 April 14
Does the TV have a seperate S-Video input (4 pin round connector) ?

Bryce.

No, it has not S-Video input.
But is has Component Video, 3 inputs: Y, Pb, Pr
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: Bryce on 13:29, 20 April 14
Then there's a good chance that the S-Video pins in the SCART socket aren't connected. The TV definitely isn't suited for retro use.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: landex on 13:55, 20 April 14
Quote from: Bryce on 13:29, 20 April 14
Then there's a good chance that the S-Video pins in the SCART socket aren't connected. The TV definitely isn't suited for retro use.

Bryce.
Which S-Video pins in the Scart should be connected?
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: landex on 14:02, 20 April 14
I read that some scarts needs a 1,5V battery in the 16pin of the scart
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: TFM on 02:25, 22 April 14
Quote from: landex on 13:09, 20 April 14
... 3 inputs: Y, Pb, Pr


Y = Yttrium
Pb = Lead (Plumbum)
Pr = Praseodynium


... nice mix of elements  :)
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: TotO on 13:11, 24 April 14
Here, how the MP2 look to handle the signal from the CPC to the Scart out.
My friend iXien let me see inside, because it allow to get a sync picture on his LCD screen. (not the schematic usually found on internet)


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Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: Bryce on 13:28, 24 April 14
That's just adding a voltage to pins 16 (RGB select) to keep the TV in RGB mode and pin 8 (Aspect ratio) to force the TV to 4:3 format. are you sure about the value of R23? I would have thought it would need to be a bit larger.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: TotO on 13:32, 24 April 14
Sure, but not only.
Some schematic on Internet said to use the luminance signal too. Look to be wrong.

I understand, but yes... Both are orange, orange, brown, gold resistors.
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: Bryce on 13:43, 24 April 14
I don't think I've ever seen an official schematic for the French MP-2.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: TotO on 16:16, 24 April 14
I was surprised to see so few things inside.
There are the PSU part close to the PCB with this dirty hack (many straps) instead of the expected parts drawn on it.
Title: Re: Video failure
Post by: landex on 01:33, 27 April 14
i try my cpc with a CRT TV and it  works fine ;D
Bloody Plasmas!

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