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Title: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: msmthng on 20:36, 22 October 17
Should it be possible to read Vortex 5,25" discs on a Windows PC with an 1,2 MB drive using Winape with Drive set to Vortex and using the TFM Vortex rom?


I get an Drive read error, don't know if the discs are working.
Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: GUNHED on 15:24, 23 October 17
Well, I guess to read a 5.25" disc in a PC it's needed to seal the punched hole at the side of the disc. Right?


Since I use a 5.25" HD drive with my CPC I'm not really sure.
Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: robcfg on 16:33, 23 October 17
I'd try to use the HxC Floppy Emulator software to dump the disk and then use it on an emulator.
Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: arnoldemu on 20:05, 23 October 17
Quote from: msmthng on 20:36, 22 October 17
Should it be possible to read Vortex 5,25" discs on a Windows PC with an 1,2 MB drive using Winape with Drive set to Vortex and using the TFM Vortex rom?


I get an Drive read error, don't know if the discs are working.
Do CPCDiskXP or Samdisk work?

It is possible windows is blocking direct access to the drive and it is not working on winape or other tools.
Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: msmthng on 04:40, 26 October 17
Quote from: GUNHED on 15:24, 23 October 17
Well, I guess to read a 5.25" disc in a PC it's needed to seal the punched hole at the side of the disc. Right?


Since I use a 5.25" HD drive with my CPC I'm not really sure.
Hi what is needed to use a 5,25 hd drive with the cpc?

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Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: GUNHED on 10:55, 26 October 17
Quote from: msmthng on 04:40, 26 October 17
Hi what is needed to use a 5,25 hd drive with the cpc?

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Actually you only need to generate the Ready Signal, which is bit of a task. See CPC-AI Sonderheft 5/87.

Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: msmthng on 19:48, 06 November 17
i have managed that winape or cpcdiskxp is trying to acces the drive (led is blinking, you can hear the head) but i am not succesfull on reading data. i don't know if my disks are working. can somebody providing me a vortex format dsk file to try the other way of writing that image to the disk and reading it after that using winape.

thx
Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: GUNHED on 21:18, 06 November 17
Can't attach a DSK in the forum here, but PM me your email then I can send you Vortex DSKs. Would that help?

Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: robcfg on 21:34, 06 November 17
I insist you try the HxC software, which has a great floppy dump tool and can save directly to dsk too.


Oh, and there is samdisk too.
Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: GUNHED on 22:08, 06 November 17
And for the PC and 5.25" also the legendary 22Disc.
Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: msmthng on 22:20, 06 November 17
Quote from: robcfg on 21:34, 06 November 17
I insist you try the HxC software, which has a great floppy dump tool and can save directly to dsk too.


Oh, and there is samdisk too.

with hxc nothing happens if i click on floppy disk dump
Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: robcfg on 22:23, 06 November 17
Did you install the fdrawcmd driver (http://simonowen.com/fdrawcmd/)?


It's needed for most disk dump tools.
Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: msmthng on 22:34, 06 November 17
yes the low level driver was installed.

i have now tried samdisk. with samdisk i am able to dump the disk and using it with winape and varados rom.

setting the drive as drive b in the emulator is not working in that case i get an Drive B: read fail
Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: Audronic on 23:04, 06 November 17
Quote from: msmthng on 20:36, 22 October 17
Should it be possible to read Vortex 5,25" discs on a Windows PC with an 1,2 MB drive using Winape with Drive set to Vortex and using the TFM Vortex rom?
I get an Drive read error, don't know if the discs are working.


The Problem probably is that the Vortex Format is 80 Track DOUBLE DENSITY and the drive is turning at 300 RPM
The 1.2 Meg drives are for HD disks and the drive will run at 360 RPM ?


See if you can find a 80 Track Double Sided Double Density drive Not a 1,2 meg Drive.


Good Luck   Ray
Title: Re: Vortex Discs in 5,25“ PC Drive
Post by: msmthng on 12:37, 07 November 17
Quote from: arnoldemu on 20:05, 23 October 17
Do CPCDiskXP or Samdisk work?




how can i read both sides with samdisk?


when i am using the dsk in Winape done from a Disk with content on poth side on using flip in WinApe i get a drive not ready error.
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