Here it is one video from Nijmegen MSX fair 2015 with all the platforms supporting symbos running the operating system:
SymbOS Platform Overkill - It's running everywhere! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEgGmVQjMM0#ws)
Pretty impressive!
Nice video.
Thanks for that, great moments!
(edited your post to remove the 's' from 'https' in the YT link so it gets embedded)
Hehe!
The CPC version running on a X-MEM + X-MASS configuration. Great! :-*
Yes..i also notice the blinking red led from xmass .
great video 8)
It was a very great meeting and it was really fun to have the booth the first time with all 4 different SymbOS Z80 computer systems, which were united in a crazy way.
Btw: The CPC was running 7 hours without any break the whole time loading video data from the X-MASS! :)
(the EP had to take a break after 4 hours, the PCW was crashing one time, and the two MSX machines have been used to show other things several times in between :P )
Quote from: Prodatron on 23:23, 27 January 15
Btw: The CPC was running 7 hours without any break the whole time loading video data from the X-MASS! :)
That's a pretty cool power test! :) Windows got beat already! :)
You mean it took 7 hours to load datas to SymbOS ?
wow, now i understand why you weren't satisfied by the benchmarks showing FutureOS is faster...
:laugh:
na, kiddin,please no more cheatstorm...
now the real deal...
4 different machines running the "same" OS and actually no networking between this ?
I mean...
You can connect and share with macs and so on... and here, nothing ?
Please, create a protocols and sharing things, so Data may be shared, chat may be chatted and game may be gamed... and prOrn may be pr0n-ted...
Many of those computers here have somewhat "compatible" video modes of a kind...
All can do 1bpp graphics... palettes can be converted, even PCW may somewhat emulate the CPC Mode1 via ditherings (see most CPCports on PCW) and CPC can also get a display the same size as the PCW via fullscreen, and so on.
Even concerning sounds, most of those system can have at least one AY (be it in option for PCW but the card existed and was supported by Head over heels) or equivalent (Enterprise's soundchip is not quite different)...
when can we get a little "multiplayer-multisystem-online-pacbomberman-clone" running in windowed mode ?
Also : where is the Amstrad PLUS version with rasters and hardsprites ?
Interesting detail: SymbOS was loading about 3 Gigabytes of data within the 7 hours on the CPC! I think that's quite impressive for an 8bit system ;)
Meanwhile in Spain, with only 16K of Datas on plain stock 64K config CPC :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH-n5NNKvpo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH-n5NNKvpo#)
;)
Clearly some nice Amstrad moments theses days... I knew CPC664 and CPC6128 30th anniversaries year would be even better than CPC464's anniversary.
The Floppy is where it's at... the extra RAM as well.
Jokes appart : why are the links to SymStudio's website "broken" ?
Quote from: MacDeath on 00:09, 28 January 15
Jokes appart : why are the links to SymStudio's website "broken" ?
SymStudio is no longer available. An alpha release of its replacement Unify will be out in a week or so.
Quote from: Prodatron on 00:05, 28 January 15
Interesting detail: SymbOS was loading about 3 Gigabytes of data within the 7 hours on the CPC! I think that's quite impressive for an 8bit system ;)
3 GB = 3221225472 bytes
7 hours = 7 * 60 * 60 = 25200 seconds
Data transfer rate = 127826 bytes per second or = 124 kb/s
Now how long will it take to format your new hard disc?
Probably a few seconds, even if a CPC would do it. Initialising the boot sector/fat/root directory area doesn't require so much writes. Not sure if you missed it, but since the 90ies harddiscs won't be low-level formatted anymore.
Well, great idea for data security right?
English CPCscene : hoy m8, what's up ?
Greek CPCscene : (something in ununderstandable greek characters, looks like mathematical formulae)
Spanish CPCscene : hola hermano, have you seen last Batman Demo or last ESP soft game ? yeah we totally exploded MSX or Speccy or C64 or french CPCscene...
French CPCscene : connard ! ton ex-femme a volé la disquette avec mes routines que tu m'avais copié il y a 20 ans à une party où elle avait refusé de me sucer ! **
German CPCscene : sein OS hast ein slöwer dataflow than meine wen it komes zu Data processing im multitasken !!!
** please don't try to translate... it is not worth...
;D
What ever you use for translations, please stop it, it hurts my ears just by reading it. :) :)
Quote from: Joseman on 14:44, 26 January 15
Here it is one video from Nijmegen MSX fair 2015 with all the platforms supporting symbos running the operating system:
SymbOS Platform Overkill - It's running everywhere! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEgGmVQjMM0#ws)
Pretty impressive!
SymbOS Platform Overkill - It's running everywhere! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEgGmVQjMM0#ws)
For me, SymbOS is so crazy cool!! everytime i boot it, it's amzing that it is possible to have a full multitasking grapical enviorment with a very nice look and feel! on a z80 platform!
It seems the way to go! Building applications for different z80 machines but still using the same OS. To share it with different communities!
It was so nice to see SymbOS booting on different z80 machines!!!! It is so complete already!!
THANKS!!!!
Nice thing to see was also that some children tried SymbOS :D
(http://i62.tinypic.com/1zybmmb.jpg)
Quote from: MacDeath on 23:40, 28 January 15
English CPCscene : hoy m8, what's up ?
Greek CPCscene : (something in ununderstandable greek characters, looks like mathematical formulae)
Spanish CPCscene : hola hermano, have you seen last Batman Demo or last ESP soft game ? yeah we totally exploded MSX or Speccy or C64 or french CPCscene...
French CPCscene : connard ! ton ex-femme a volé la disquette avec mes routines que tu m'avais copié il y a 20 ans à une party où elle avait refusé de me sucer ! **
German CPCscene : sein OS hast ein slöwer dataflow than meine wen it komes zu Data processing im multitasken !!!
** please don't try to translate... it is not worth...
;D
I'm in the wrong scene! The French scene sounds much more interesting :D
Bryce.
Hehehe αυτό ήταν καλό :D
@Gryzor (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1) : What sort of mysterious universal constant are you trying to calculate ?
;)
@deutcshen freunderns : somewhere ein Goethe corpse ist spinning in his grave... but Molière and Rabelais are dying again of laugh
Just an ethereal algorithm that automatically upgrades my CPC to 4MB, no biggie...
@ Prodatron
Would it be possible to run Symbos on a Model 4 Trs-80 (Z80) PleaseThanks
Ray W_____________
That would be cool! :)
Quote from: Audronic on 09:46, 30 January 15
@ Prodatron
Would it be possible to run Symbos on a Model 4 Trs-80 (Z80) PleaseThanks
Ray W_____________
I think the answer is no, as symbos requires 128k
Quoteas symbos requires 128k
whot ?
192k would be more realistic... or else you only run SymbOS and nothing else, not even the desktop background... ;D
Quote from: MacDeath on 02:09, 31 January 15
whot ?
192k would be more realistic... or else you only run SymbOS and nothing else, not even the desktop background... ;D
Most apps can be executed on 128K and this shows how you can even run 4 smaller ones at the same time on 128K:
(http://www.symbos.de/gfx/preview/sym-ep-05discworking.png)
-> On a 128K system you have about 32K available.
The model 4 seem to support 128K or more, but currently I don't now how it is mapped. Beside the bitmap graphic (which can be 2, 4 or 16 col) this is the most important detail for porting SymbOS
Well, intelligent choice of platform and apps. ;)
Well pretty much every app Prodatron has written runs in the spare 32k. Much of the code that was written with Symstudio probably doesnt as it carries around the language code with each app (and thats just me being a bad coder)... but that wont be the case with Unify code so hopefully lots of the planned apps will run in the spare 32k also.
I think if the TRS-80 model 4 has a possibility of 128k then its another possible port to add to the growing number.
Have said this to Prodatron a number of times over the years, but Symbos is the most impressive piece of Z80 coding I've ever encountered. Even more so when you look at the coding structure underneath, and it keeps getting better. Just wait for network support, cos its going to be special
Very impressive demo, who would have thought these platforms could have ended up with such an advanced cross-platform operating system back in the day!
@ Prodatron
I would like to see a Version of Symbos that can run on a TRS-80 Model 4/4p with 128 Meg of Ram.
I am prepared to do some testing , I have a Model 4 and a 4P both with 128 meg Ram,
I have a 15 Meg (Radio Shack (Tandy) Hard drive that could be used, as the Hard Drive.
I also have a FreHD (SD based Hard Drive) that can be connected and a Lo-Tech IDE Drive using a 64 Meg D.O.M.
Looking forward to helping
Thanks
Ray W___________
Quote from: Trebmint on 19:19, 31 January 15
... Just wait for network support, cos its going to be special
Well, I'm waiting since 2007 when with great words it was announced an shown on a Spanish meeting. It would be great if 8 years later we eventually get it available. :)
@Ray: The TRS-80 Model 4 seems to support a "flexible" 32K based mapping. That's not optimal but it should work, especially as the VRAM is separated. Accessing the graphic board for the 640x240 and 512x192 monochrome bitmap modes is quite interesting because of the X/Y address registers and the option control register. Always nice to learn about additional (Z80) 8bit machines and their concepts! :) Anyway the next port candidates are currently the Sam Coupe and the Amstrad NC series, as I thought this would make most sense.
Quote from: TFM on 17:16, 02 February 15
Well, I'm waiting since 2007 when with great words it was announced an shown on a Spanish meeting. It would be great if 8 years later we eventually get it available. :)
Good to hear that you're looking forward to it too. Its positive comments like that which push us forward to try and achieve even more
Of course, go on and make it! :)