Is it me or was the server down recently ?
Obviously it got better... hope there is nothing wrong nor long term effects.
Can we have some informations about what happened ?
Felt like it was down for a week!
I might be addicted....
Quote from: mr_lou on 19:58, 03 August 14
Felt like it was down for a week!
I might be addicted....
Fortunately it coincided with my BBQ (Remember the invite) so I did not miss it at all. I was *WAY* to busy serving drinks, cooking home made sausages... Oh yeah Making the sausages, having a little too much to drink... it was the Bushmills that did it
and being a little hungover this morning. Good to have it back now tho.
Craig
Hello guys,
That's why you can follow me on Twitter, I always send out updates there :)
Anyhow, what happened was, I was on vacation, and just as I was leaving that nice little island the server ran out of space and the database crashed and got corrupted. Of *course* it would happen just before I got back! Anyway. It stayed down because my trip was some 12 hours long and to say I could log into the server from the ship in the middle of the sea stretches things a bit. As soon as I got back I freed some space, the db was patched and here we are.
Sorry about that...
T
Thanks for your work Gryzor !
:)
Quote from: mr_lou on 19:58, 03 August 14
Felt like it was down for a week!
I might be addicted....
Spare a thought for those without Gf.
Quote from: gryzorThat's why you can follow me on Twitter, I always send out updates there
Nope, Twitter must of been down as well. Funny thing I heard today was Facebook went down, the Americans were in panic and dialled 911 on mass which resulted in Facebook issuing a Tweet to get them to cease dialling 911. It would be interesting to see what would happen if Twitter & Facebook went down at the same time, I guess there's always TV! :D
Twitter was ok, I was reading my timeline from the beach (and posting, too).
Quote from: Gryzor on 06:47, 04 August 14
Hello guys,
That's why you can follow me on Twitter, I always send out updates there :)
Anyhow, what happened was, I was on vacation, and just as I was leaving that nice little island the server ran out of space and the database crashed and got corrupted. Of *course* it would happen just before I got back! Anyway. It stayed down because my trip was some 12 hours long and to say I could log into the server from the ship in the middle of the sea stretches things a bit. As soon as I got back I freed some space, the db was patched and here we are.
Sorry about that...
T
I think we have been through this before. If your ship had been the Titanic or you had gone on 30 days vacation with no connection to the world, the CPCWiki would still be able to continue?
Quote from: Gryzor on 10:54, 04 August 14
Twitter was ok, I was reading my timeline from the beach (and posting, too).
Twitter sucks here for me, at least that's what the Web Browser version does, cause it doesn't try to inform me when new Twit arrives in my email, or maybe I'm an idiot and have it setup wrong. ;D
[ot]My Tweet settings are suggesting I should be getting Tweets when someone "shares their tweets with me", which should generate an email, it doesn't seem to be, which suggests Twitter aren't maintaining their web server thus dodgy. >:( [/ot]
Quote from: ivarf on 11:21, 04 August 14
I think we have been through this before. If your ship had been the Titanic or you had gone on 30 days vacation with no connection to the world, the CPCWiki would still be able to continue?
So.. you're asking me what would happen to the wiki if I died? :D Something tells me fixing the db would be rather low on my priority list...
@AMSDOS (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=330): you get notified by Twitter when someone mentions you in a tweet.
You have a priority list for things you want to do AFTER you've died??
Bryce.
Sure: find out where all the good bars and restaurants are, which cloud has the best 3G reception, try and find a way to notify loved ones I'm doing ok, and so on.
I think I have that one sorted: Barbeque and grill restaurants (with all those flames what else would be on offer). Most of my friends will end up there too, so I won't be lonely :) And as far as the cloud is concerned, I prefer local storage.
Bryce.
Ok, to get a bit serious (not that I discount grills and bbq's and everything), the very unfortunate coincidence yesterday was that the server's co-admin was also flying all day, so neither could take care of the server. If I were on the Titanic, or if I won the lottery and had a 30-day vacation, he would still be able to fix things.
And, as discussed before, there's a dead-man's-switch in place in case, I don't know, were we both to decide to check out the next planes of existence. So, you know, if someone agrees to pay the monthly host invoices all should be well.
Quotecocking home mad sausages...
WTF did I just read ?
:-X
QuoteThat's why you can follow me on Twitter
Sorry I'm specifically against this exact one social network...
Is there a Fecebook page especially for CPCWiki instead ?
anyway, as you may know, a lot of bad stuff are happening in the world...
Israel/Gaza, Ukraine, Ebola... plus a lot more scandals here and there...
So internet is not really stable for our pesky stuffs as many bigger schemes are being covered by all intelligence services.
They may think we are dangerous international anarchist hacker gang.
whot what tinfoil hat ?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xMuoTrnYry0/UO80G8RaMYI/AAAAAAAAAZE/d1XZUR-DQM0/s1600/cyberpunk2020-RPG.jpg)
Liked just for the cyberpunk. :D
Quote from: Gryzor on 16:21, 04 August 14
Ok, to get a bit serious (not that I discount grills and bbq's and everything), the very unfortunate coincidence yesterday was that the server's co-admin was also flying all day, so neither could take care of the server. If I were on the Titanic, or if I won the lottery and had a 30-day vacation, he would still be able to fix things.
And, as discussed before, there's a dead-man's-switch in place in case, I don't know, were we both to decide to check out the next planes of existence. So, you know, if someone agrees to pay the monthly host invoices all should be well.
What if you decide to take a cruise on the Titanic with the Co-admin!! :o We're doomed I tell you!
Bryce.
Quote from: Bryce on 21:27, 04 August 14
What if you decide to take a cruise on the Titanic with the Co-admin!! :o We're doomed I tell you!
Bryce.
I picture a Devilmarkus hanging Gryzor over the barrier...
"I am the King of the CPC World" :o
I was thinking more...
We're doomed! (Actual scene) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkWIn3GE9Ec)
Bryce.
Nah, I'm picturing it more like:
Game over man game over (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np9tBI7_nq8#)
Quote from: Gryzor on 13:54, 04 August 14
@AMSDOS (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=330): you get notified by Twitter when someone mentions you in a tweet.
But I want a Tweet in my Inbox when someone sends one, if it can do it for a dumb phone, why can't it do it for email?
TWEEEEEEEEEEET!
seinfeld twix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYOwkJPpA#)
There are roughly 1000 tweets in my timeline every day, and many users have many, many more. You mean to say Twitter should send me 1000 emails? You're not being serious... Maybe also replace the forum here with an email system?
Quote from: Gryzor on 08:43, 05 August 14
There are roughly 1000 tweets in my timeline every day, and many users have many, many more. You mean to say Twitter should send me 1000 emails? You're not being serious... Maybe also replace the forum here with an email system?
Why not?? I don't get 1000 emails, perhaps you follow to many posters? There's just too much dribble on Twitter.
If we are debating "ways to notify the community when the server has problems and thus can't be used as a source of information", then I have a suggestion:
Any e-mail client nowadays offers options to add RSS feeds.
So: Create an RSS feed on another server, like e.g. the JavaCPC one.
Then community members who has an interest in being notified, can add this RSS feed in their e-mail client.
For the admins to add to the RSS feed can be as simple as editing an XML file, if we're too lazy to code any PHP renderer.
It wouldn't require much, since it should only be used for these technical infos, in my opinion.
Isn't bookmarking Themis Papassilekas (@krakout) op Twitter (https://twitter.com/krakout) enough ? Just look there when you have a doubt, and you do not need to have an account.
@AMSDOS (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=330) : what are you talking about mate? Just because you don't want to use a Twitter client you want Twitter to turn into the largest (by far) sender of emails on the internet? Twitter is Twitter, it's not an email service. There's too much dribble everywhere, what does that mean?
@mr_lou (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=96) : not going to implement a new platform when there are several already out there. As @gerald (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=250) said (thanks mate), there's already a service that can notify users. You want to use RSS (I'm a big fan of RSS feeds, but very few people use mailers with RSS functionality), be my guest: TwitRSS.me - rss of twitter user feeds by screenscraping with perl (http://twitrss.me/) , twitterfeed.com : feed your blog to twitter (http://twitterfeed.com/) , How to add Twitter feeds to Feedly or how to add RSS feeds to Hootsuite [QUICK (http://www.visioncritical.com/blog/how-add-twitter-feeds-feedly-or-how-add-rss-feeds-hootsuite-quick-tip) .
The farthest I would go would be to create a separate twitter account for CPCWiki status updates, since on my main Twitter account I tweet about lots more stuff than the Wiki itself.
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:51, 05 August 14
@AMSDOS (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=330) : what are you talking about mate? Just because you don't want to use a Twitter client you want Twitter to turn into the largest (by far) sender of emails on the internet? Twitter is Twitter, it's not an email service. There's too much dribble everywhere, what does that mean?
Not a deliver of Tweets from everyone, a deliver of Tweets from people you follow, which is what they already do via the phone. Otherwise what's the point of not receiving Tweets from people you follow?
If they cannot manage sending vast emails then they should at least bulk up what followers having been posting each day so we can see what's been going on.
Argh, that's what I mean man... do you know how many tweets there are? 500 million per day. Send each one of them to the followers of the accounts where the tweets originated and you get billions and billions of emails on a daily basis.
Just get a twitter client and get done with it.
I wouldn't be getting 500 Million a day from people I follow, which is my point. I'm only referring to people like you who send stuff out. Personally I haven't moved to this new phone technology which in ables me to have a "client", if I decided to get one of those "i" devices I guess it would be a pad, though I'm not even sure if those things are available.
For the love of god, mate, it's not that complicated! *YOU* would not be getting 500 million per day, you could maybe get 50 emails, but that total of 500 million tweets would have to be delivered to EACH FOLLOWER of the originating account!!!
Also, there are Twitter clients for Windows and Mac (and presumably Linux too), AND you can just log onto Twitter and see your timeline in a browser. Things are simple enough, and no need to keep hammering on a totally impractical idea.
Quote from: Gryzor on 10:23, 05 August 14
For the love of god, mate, it's not that complicated! *YOU* would not be getting 500 million per day, you could maybe get 50 emails, but that total of 500 million tweets would have to be delivered to EACH FOLLOWER of the originating account!!!
Also, there are Twitter clients for Windows and Mac (and presumably Linux too), AND you can just log onto Twitter and see your timeline in a browser. Things are simple enough, and no need to keep hammering on a totally impractical idea.
It wouldn't be a impractical idea if it was a single email which consisted of tweets from your followers, if you got lots of tweets in the hour then perhaps an email with all those messages in them, every once in a while I get an email like that from the CPCWiki telling me what the latest posts are on it, if your site could do that, then a big conglomerate like Twitter could easily do that. That's if Twitter want my business, instead of sending out some stupid "We noticed you haven't visited us in a while" pointless email.
With almost 300 million active users and hundreds of milions more of inactive ones it would still mean hundreds and hundreds of millions of emails daily. The Wiki sends a few dozens per month :D . And again: WHY on earth do it that way? Again: Twitter is NOT an email service. Just visit them.
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:51, 05 August 14@mr_lou (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=96) : not going to implement a new platform when there are several already out there. As @gerald (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=250) said (thanks mate), there's already a service that can notify users. You want to use RSS (I'm a big fan of RSS feeds, but very few people use mailers with RSS functionality), be my guest: TwitRSS.me - rss of twitter user feeds by screenscraping with perl (http://twitrss.me/) , twitterfeed.com : feed your blog to twitter (http://twitterfeed.com/) , How to add Twitter feeds to Feedly or how to add RSS feeds to Hootsuite [QUICK (http://www.visioncritical.com/blog/how-add-twitter-feeds-feedly-or-how-add-rss-feeds-hootsuite-quick-tip) .
I wouldn't go as far as to call it a new platform, since it's really just editing of an XML file that is online somewhere.
Of the 3 RSS-converters you linked to, the first one doesn't work for me, and the 2 others seems to be a service that the twitter account owner (meaning you) has to set up?
But even if it worked, it would mean that I'd be getting
all of your tweets, which (no offence) isn't that interesting to me.
(Although the "Diary of an 80's Computer Geek" was a bit interesting since it reminds me a bit of my own current RetroMag project).
Anyway, I can settle for bookmarking your Twitter page and looking if/when I'm curious why CPCwiki is down, and when it might be up again.
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:51, 05 August 14The farthest I would go would be to create a separate twitter account for CPCWiki status updates, since on my main Twitter account I tweet about lots more stuff than the Wiki itself.
No need to do that on my account, since I will only be looking when there are issues with the CPCwiki anyway.
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:51, 05 August 14The farthest I would go would be to create a separate twitter account for CPCWiki status updates, since on my main Twitter account I tweet about lots more stuff than the Wiki itself.
Uh, not needed. Real men scroll down your page and look for the juicy bits.
Quote from: MaV on 12:37, 05 August 14
Uh, not needed. Real men scroll down your page and look for the juicy bits.
....exactly how many real men do you think we are in this community?
Quote from: mr_lou on 13:40, 05 August 14
....exactly how many real men do you think we are in this community?
I wasn't thinking about anyone in particular. Take it as a general statement that a second twitter account is completely unnecessary.
Quote...1000 tweets...
that's about 2357 characters at best (according to ridiculously low tweet character limit), not even close to my average in 1 multiple-time-edited-while-drunk posts here... ::)
and not even as offensive. :D
Quote from: Gryzor on 10:53, 05 August 14
With almost 300 million active users and hundreds of milions more of inactive ones it would still mean hundreds and hundreds of millions of emails daily. The Wiki sends a few dozens per month :D . And again: WHY on earth do it that way? Again: Twitter is NOT an email service. Just visit them.
The social media network I use has around 3 Million, it wouldn't be at it's peak now, but when it was there were a lot of people using it and I was literally getting heaps of emails from it as well as emails of people sending stuff to me which was of stuff from various users all gathered together and sent only to me, sure it may not be the same scale as twitter, but I've never heard of these sites complain because there was too many users, it must be possible to automate and if twitter simply made it an option which were initially disabled , they would probably find a few of those hundred million/billion wouldn't be bothered turning it on.
Yeah, but you're not explaining why the fuck they would do it. As I said time and time again, it wouldn't be twitter any more.
You can stay with the social medium you mentioned...
Quote from: Gryzor on 06:47, 04 August 14
Hello guys,
That's why you can follow me on Twitter, I always send out updates there :)
You're that annoying Krakout bloke that retweets my stuff >:(
:laugh: :laugh: ;D
Yup, I lack creativity :D
It would still be twitter because you would still have to get on it and post a tweet, the only difference being there would be an email with a list of all the tweets on it, instead of having no idea what's being written, and then when I finally get on having to sort through a needle in a haystack of tweets, some are funny, others seem personal and others get missed.
So don't follow those who don't post enough signal/noise. Simple. But I guess it's "simpler" getting the list of tweets in an email instead of using the client/web page. Yeah, right.
Ok, I'm done with this discussion, I'm sorry but just try to start a social medium that delivers content through email and watch how much engagement you get. I can't say anything else.