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Title: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 09:13, 14 November 11
Hello guys,

I regret to inform you that we'll need to change servers again...

A few days ago Andreas contacted me and informed me that I'd need to find a new server to host the project (details will follow).

Got to admit, my heart sunk a bit. I'm tired of this process and, for a second there, I thought to myself "ah, just screw it". However, I got into overdrive soon enough and the result is we've found a very nice and powerful server.

If things go as planned we'll perform the move during the week (Wednesday or Friday, when we'll have finished testing on the new server). Downtime should be minimal - maybe a couple of hours tops, though as usual it'll take a few hours before the new IP for the domain is propagated. In order to prevent people from posting/modifying needlessly the site on the current server everything will be disabled when the process begins. I expect us to lose almost nothing of the posts or edits, since I'll take a backup right before the move is initiated.

The bad news is, we'll need money. We've ridden for free enough up to now, and we've used our share of small/cheap hosts but it's clearly not working any more. The annual cost for the new server will be running in the hundreds of €€, so I'll be grateful for any and all donations, however small, you can spare.
For up-to-date news you can contact me at krakout gmail, follow us on twitter (@krakout) or follow the CPC news outlets, such as Octoate's blog (http://www.octoate.de/wp/).


Finally, I would like to sincerely thank Andreas for keeping us afloat for these last few months. Andreas is very knowledgeable, very willing to help and his server was the best I've seen. So thanks!

Thanks for your understanding,
Themis
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: robcfg on 10:00, 14 November 11
You know you can count me in  ;)


And  you've been doing an awesome work these years, thank you Sir!
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Devilmarkus on 10:27, 14 November 11
I know about the reasons etc...
So it's sad to read.

I'll stay here as admin in this forum, but I don't have the money & time to work on a new server.
If someone wants, I could give Gryzor a subdomain + mysql database on cpc-live.com where he then could install at least the forum.
(For the complete wiki, its not complex enough)

So, we could redirect this forum then to the one on a subdomain until the new server is ready to use.
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 10:34, 14 November 11
@Robcfg: thank you mate, really appreciate it, both your intention and kind words. Really do.

@Markus: same old, same old... but we're still going, no? :) As for the forum, no need to really, the new server is powerful enough to support everything. As a matter of fact all the data has been migrated there, I'm now trying to iron out configuration issues to go live. Thanks though :)
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: TFM on 20:24, 14 November 11
So why does the CPCWiki must move?
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 20:37, 14 November 11
Prefer not to say yet, I don't want to give Andreas any trouble. But I'll explain after the move.
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: MacDeath on 23:09, 14 November 11
New prime minister, new server...


What's wrong with the world today ?

Good luck mate. :)
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: TFM on 03:43, 15 November 11
Sorry, didn't know what's going on. Not asking any longer.

But best wished to all people here and to the project.
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 07:42, 15 November 11
@MacDeath: actually, the answer to the wiki problems could apply to politics as well, but oh well :D
@TFM: no problem mate, no harm in asking :)
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 10:26, 19 November 11
Hello guys,

I'm pleased to say that last night the move to the new server was almost completed. I'm trying to figure out some small db rights issue (it works as is, but I wanted to consolidate some things), and as soon as this is done I'll sync the servers and will then transfer the domain. Downtime should be in the minutes range, and I'll announce the new IP because we'll continue to resolve the name to the current server for a couple of days tops.

Everything seems to be working fine, so stand by :)
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: AMSDOS on 11:16, 23 November 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 10:26, 19 November 11Everything seems to be working fine, so stand by :)

Unsure if it's an one off, though I logged in only to be booted off shortly afterwards. I tried again which worked fine, just wondered if anyone else had been experiencing this? It's particularly annoying for me cause everytime I log on, if I'm anywhere in the Forum Sub-Directories, it reverts me back to the Forum Home Page!  :(
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 17:13, 23 November 11
The logoff was probably a one-time thing. As for the other issue, it's how the system works, unfortunately. Just check the box to keep you signed in :)

Also, apologies for the move delay. I've not been well the past few days, so I had to postpone it lest I did something stupid...
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: TFM on 17:50, 23 November 11
Thank's a lot for all the work you invested!!!
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 20:34, 24 November 11
...and thanks for your kind words. Keep fingers crossed, tonight's the night* :)

*basically this means the wiki will probably stay down for the night...
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: tastefulmrship on 13:22, 25 November 11
Job done! Nice one!
Looks like it's all working well!


EDIT1: This my HALO post... (work it out... come on... look at the post count... it's obvious... yes... good!)

EDIT2: Is 85.17.90.77 going to be the permanent IP?
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 17:12, 25 November 11
Yup! We're up and running, I wonder how often server IP changes are propagated throughout the DNS world...

Yes, it's the permanent IP, but don't point directly to it, all you'll see will be an empty index page...

As usual, please people do give your feedback and impressions!
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: AMSDOS on 23:39, 25 November 11
That was swift!  :)
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 08:34, 26 November 11
Morning world!

It's still a bit shaky for me, unfortunately. But it does work. Phew.
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Devilmarkus on 08:45, 26 November 11
So what are the new server specs?
I see it's standing in Canada?
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 09:34, 26 November 11
Unless Canada moved to the Netherlands then no :D Where did you see that?

Oh, also, forgot to mention: email notifications are not working yet since I didn't have the time to configure the SMTP server...
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: tastefulmrship on 11:55, 26 November 11
I don't know how important this is, but the server time seems to be around 7 minutes fast!
(I posted this at 10:47 according to my GPS clocks!)
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 19:28, 26 November 11
Really? Ok, that's easily fixable - let's see my post's timestamp :)

[EDIT] Yeah, 8 minutes according to my machine...
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: steve on 01:44, 27 November 11
If you are going to correct the time, I should mention that it is 2 hours and 8 minutes ahead of the time in Great Britain. :(
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: tastefulmrship on 09:00, 27 November 11
Quote from: steve on 01:44, 27 November 11
If you are going to correct the time, I should mention that it is 2 hours and 8 minutes ahead of the time in Great Britain. :(
Is it? Is your TIME OFFSET set correctly? (Maybe the auto-detect isn't working properly)

To check;
- Go to PROFILE
- Click on LOOK AND LAYOUT
- Check TIME OFFSET

Mine says -2 hours... which makes the time correct(ish).
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 10:02, 27 November 11
Steve, you do realise that the server time is only correct for *one* time zone, right? :D It so happens that it's showing CET+1 (GMT+2) since I set it up and I live there ;)

Thanks to tastefulmrship for the tip, had actually forgotten about it.

Couldn't be arsed to fix the time yestarday, I'll do it today. Maybe. For the time being a torrent of, erm, torrents, prevents my SSH connection from functioning fast enough.
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: steve on 11:12, 27 November 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 10:02, 27 November 11
Steve, you do realise that the server time is only correct for *one* time zone, right? :D

Yes, of course I do, I was only joking.

Thank you to Tastefulmrship, I have now altered my profile and the time is now as correct as I can make it. ;D
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 11:35, 27 November 11
Or everyone could move to the correct time zone...
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: AMSDOS on 11:48, 27 November 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 11:35, 27 November 11
Or everyone could move to the correct time zone...

Hmm, Sounds tempting if the rubbish has been removed from Metaxourgeio!  :laugh:

I guess L.A. Swat can be best used to describe that place?  :laugh:
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 11:56, 27 November 11
...yes, minus the actual police.
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: AMSDOS on 11:17, 28 November 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 11:56, 27 November 11
...yes, minus the actual police.

Unsure this has anything to do with Metaxourgeio, for some reason this place/property in ΜΕΤΑΞΟΥΡΓΕΙΟ popped up, I've been bragging about it on Twitter. One photos looks like it's showing some kind of Guard House on the Hill, the other photo shows a bare plot of ground which needs to be built on. 70,000 Euros!  :laugh:  Still seems like a Bargain (even if it's too pricey by my standards!  :( ), though places here which have nice views usually go into the Millions and usually their criminals damaging coastal vegetation just to have their views!  >:(  Last laugh is on them when Erosion removes their homes and properties by Accelerating the process!
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 18:15, 28 November 11
Yeah, I saw your tweet. Those photos have no connection with Metaxourgeio :D
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 19:18, 28 November 11
Btw, time should now be correct - there was no binding with an NNTP server before, it's fixed now :)
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 20:14, 28 November 11
Apologies for the multiple notifications you might be getting, I guess this will continue until the queue has emptied... please bear with us!
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: tastefulmrship on 23:49, 03 December 11
I didn't think it was possible to 'remove' one of your own posts if a thread was CLOSED. I have just managed to do this, but surely that's not right? A 'locked' topic is supposed to be locked from all normal users' editing.

Is this a setting that wasn't transferred?
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 09:25, 04 December 11
I think it's an issue of policy rather than a bug. In my view, a topic gets locked not in order to preserve it for posterity but to prevent more of -er, what's going on in that thread.

I think the setting to remove one's own posts is universal, and rightly so... Removing a post is not editing. Or not?
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: TFM on 21:41, 04 December 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:25, 04 December 11
I think the setting to remove one's own posts is universal, and rightly so... Removing a post is not editing. Or not?

Agree! And the control over the own creations (posts) is a human right. IMHO even editing. (But I have no problem if editing is not doable). On the other hand deleting a lot of posts may screw up threads.
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: Gryzor on 20:15, 05 December 11
Meh... I can think of a few cases where one should not be able to remove his posts, but I don't think we're there yet - there haven't been problems that serious that we need to consider it yet...
Title: Re: CPCWiki on the move!
Post by: TFM on 20:27, 05 December 11
Meh? Meaw, Nih, Nyan  :o
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