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Title: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 18:13, 22 April 15
Up to now the CPCWiki has had a responsive page (meaning, it can render in a meaningful and useful way on mobile devices) through various means. Now that Google has decided to rank sites that have a responsive design higher I decided to tackle the forum too.


So, beginning today you can browse the forum too in a convenient way from your mobile device without having to use Tapatalk (even though, of course, Tapatalk has different functionality).


Currently there are two problems: the memberlist doesn't render correctly because I have to work around some code; but I thought, heck, who would want to check the membership list on their phone? So that's a low priority - it will continue rendering as the desktop version for the time being.


The other is the "Recent Forum Topics" above the boards on the forum's homepage. Now this is something entirely different and perhaps not easy to fix, so I was wondering, do people think it's useful?


Thanks for any comments!
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Munchausen on 18:18, 22 April 15
Aha, so that's why browsing the forum was a pain on my phone earlier! :)

I always use the recent forum topics, as it saves me having to go through each sub forum looking for updates. When I was looking on my phone a couple of hours ago it wasn't working properly and I kept refreshing the page (thinking the browser had mucked up).

So I for one vote that this gets fixed!

But kudos for making the effort to make the site in general more usable on mobiles
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 18:29, 22 April 15
Thanks for the feedback mate, it's much appreciated; I'm trying to make the site as usable and convenient for us as possible, so everything has to have the audience in mind - whose minds, though, I usually can't read :D

People tend to peruse the forum and its functions in different ways. In your case, why do you prefer the Recents section instead of going to the Unread page? Just trying to understand how and why people use it...

Thanks again :)
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: CraigsBar on 18:31, 22 April 15
I too mainly use the recent forum topics.... Unless I am looking in the off topic posts.
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: andycadley on 19:10, 22 April 15
Yeah I use the Recent bit pretty much all the time, it's easier to see threads that are new and likely to be of interest without having to look elsewhere. Looking at the Unread page on my phone (which I have to admit I had no idea even existed) it seems to suffer the same problem as the Recent section, everything is squashed up on the left hand side. IE 11 Mobile, Windows Phone 8.1
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Munchausen on 19:26, 22 April 15
Hmmm... well I never, unread posts, was that always there?

TBH, I'm lazy... I read cpcwiki more frequently than any other forum, so I check it a few times every day and I just want the quickest way to see what's new. I didn't notice the recent posts box for a long time (or maybe it wasn't around back then?) and what I used to do was go into each of my favourite sub forums and see what everyone had been yapping about, occasionally checking my less regularly visited sub forums to take a peek at what's going on there (what is this "other" retro? Deutches CPC-Forum... oh dear actually google translate= not that great). With the recent posts box I can see which topics have been posted to and have a look if I'm interested, and it's right there at the top of the front page. They have a "new" icon next to them if they have stuff since I last arrived. As far as I can tell the unread posts page is basically doing the same thing in a slightly different way?

I guess I'm not all that observant, it took me long enough to notice the recent posts box. Now you've got me wondering what else I've missed...
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Munchausen on 19:31, 22 April 15
Quote from: andycadley on 19:10, 22 April 15
Yeah I use the Recent bit pretty much all the time, it's easier to see threads that are new and likely to be of interest without having to look elsewhere. Looking at the Unread page on my phone (which I have to admit I had no idea even existed) it seems to suffer the same problem as the Recent section, everything is squashed up on the left hand side. IE 11 Mobile, Windows Phone 8.1

That's what it looks like on my android phone as well, all squished to the left.
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: steve on 20:08, 22 April 15
I do not find the recent posts section useful because it only lists the 10 most recent posts, whereas the unread posts can occupy many pages.
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: seanb on 21:38, 22 April 15
I use the recent post daily.
I like the quick access to the latest post across all forums.

I mostly use my phone to check the site so going through each separate sub forum everyday is a tedious affair on my mobile.

Using lollypop everything in the recent post is squashed to the left and every single post has a huge gap between the posters name and the icons below it to the like and quote button.

Thought it was my phone at first as I dont like lollypop (don't like them in real life as well)

The text box is smaller so everything seems condensed. Liked how the old way liked life a proper forum.
This of course could be something I haven't yet got used to.

Crap that was all negative. Better say something positive.
Still love cpcwiki.
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Munchausen on 00:04, 23 April 15
Quote from: steve on 20:08, 22 April 15
I do not find the recent posts section useful because it only lists the 10 most recent posts, whereas the unread posts can occupy many pages.

It also has multiple pages though
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Bryce on 09:34, 23 April 15
There's a slight glitch now when browsing on a PC. The Login Button (when highlighted) is now the entire remaining width of the page.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 12:06, 23 April 15
Wow you're observant! Yes, I knew about that too but forgot to mention it, trying to figure out the css that does this...
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 14:52, 23 April 15
Recent Topics in home page now works. Not perfectly from an aesthetics point of view, but it works :)
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 15:11, 23 April 15
Login button on desktop version fixed too :)
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 15:32, 23 April 15
Slight glitch with Recents fixed, too, now it looks perfect :)
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: TFM on 15:41, 23 April 15
Well done!

EDIT: Now even better, everything works with WinXP and 7 (no idea about cell phones though),

Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 15:45, 23 April 15
Thanks mate, please keep reporting problems!

Ps yeah, not lost, just cleaned the thread because I wanted to keep it technical :)
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: seanb on 18:34, 23 April 15
Absolutely nothing has changed on my phone.
It's a bit of an eye sore and can mistake when a post starts or who made it

Sorry to be blunt.
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 18:35, 23 April 15
Eh... Can you post a screenshot?
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: seanb on 18:45, 23 April 15
Let me figure out how  :D
volume down and home button I think
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 18:46, 23 April 15
Something like that :D I'm on rooted devices with custom power menus so I don't remember the official way...
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: seanb on 18:48, 23 April 15
It was home and power.
No wonder it wouldn't work
Here you go.
The recent post on the main page is fine now
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 18:49, 23 April 15
Ah, I see what you mean, it was a bit ambiguous. This is due to the customised profile section (the one with the upturned corner). I like it but I was thinking of removing it...


[edit] Home and Power? Never heard of that combo :D
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: seanb on 10:20, 24 April 15
Much better, well for me at least.
The forum looks tidier and is easier to follow.
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 15:56, 24 April 15
Is it? I didn't have the time to make the changes :D
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: seanb on 18:26, 24 April 15
Much nicer
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 18:33, 24 April 15
Ah damn, that's what I was trying to do and I though I failed and left it at that, calling it a night! Obviously something stayed on my tablet's cache (or the server's) :D

Great, nice to see it, going to check it out myself now.
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 07:57, 27 April 15
Yaaaaaaaaaaaay :)


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Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: TFM on 17:39, 27 April 15
To be honest... this is the first time that I start thinking about getting a Smartphone! Accessing the CPCWiki from all over is a serious good point!  :)
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 17:40, 27 April 15
Hahaha well, there's always Tapatalk. Personally, I can't stand it and never got the hang of it for some reason, but others love it - and it does make posting easy and simple.

Now, if I find a way to make the Wiki pass Google's tests... :(
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: TFM on 17:46, 27 April 15
Thumbs up! You can do it! And if not, we all know where to go anyway!  :)
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 17:52, 27 April 15
Yeah, not easy, unfortunately. The forum is much simpler - I can twean the css and php files, everything is in logical places and you can customise it rather easily. The Mediawiki platform, however, is a totally different beast... Just a search for "mediawiki responsive" will tell you so little that you immediately understand it's no easy, simple,or obvious stuff.

I'm looking into a couple of specific solutions.

One is rather simple and already works (mostly) - and you can check it out here: http://cpcwiki.eu/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=foreground . It still doesn't pass the Google tests though because, although it renders nicely on mobile devices, content is still too close for Google to give it a pass (and this gives you an indication of the process' complexity.

The other is much more complex and I'm slowly going through it though I'm not 100% confident about the results.

If any web developers are listening, feel free to get in touch :)


Thanks for your kind words mate!
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: seanb on 11:11, 30 April 15
I just noticed that there's no date and time for messages but they do show up if it's in a quote
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 13:29, 30 April 15
Hm, is that really important? I find this to be extra information one can do without when real estate is of essence...
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: seanb on 14:03, 30 April 15
Not really but you asked to know of any issues.

I guess because I spend time on other forums that aren't as active as this one and have to check the date sometimes as the last post can be from 2008 or earlier before posting.
That's not an issue here though so ignore my previous post
Title: Re: Forum now responsive!
Post by: Gryzor on 18:23, 30 April 15
Oh yes, by all means please do! I was just wondering in turn if this little thing was really worth investigating :)
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