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hello i am back on my cpc with a good news for you all, i made a little intro that i will release in revision party in some weeks. my intro is not a revolution but i enjoyed to do it. also i want to thank the special guest that helped me a lot. you will discover who he is in the intro.
i hope that other cpc demo groups will release something in revision. benediction, vanity, impact or other? 

also i think you all wonder if the special guest is toto. no he is not  :P

I don't think anyone really wonders, but looking forward to your intro! 🙂

it seems only 4 people are interested........
where are the demomakers? do you read cpc wiki forum?

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:44, 19 March 22hello i am back on my cpc with a good news for you all, i made a little intro that i will release in revision party in some weeks. my intro is not a revolution but i enjoyed to do it.

Great to know! Waiting to watch your production for the Revision event.

We are all waiting for your production  ;D

Quote from: Bug Powellit seems only 4 people are interested........
where are the demomakers? do you read cpc wiki forum?

Hi,

I always love to see new productions for the CPC, especially if it's a demo. I would say, the response of 4 likes is pretty good for a production we haven't seen yet - as I saw responses on already released stuff with fewer reactions. I don't know why the overall response on demos here is low - that would be a discussion on it's own - I think the majority of poeple is more interested into games. If you want to do a game, endless threads will almost be guaranteed, and you can even talk about it for years before it's done.

Demos belong to the category of art. So, thumbs up for doing art!

PS: I initially also wanted to release for Revision, however I coundn't make it in time. Well ... but there's no need to hurry anyway, we are doing it for fun, and I'll add some more parts *sigh*.

I got to say I'm not that interested in demos and even less so ones that I know nothing about and no information is shared, drop some sort of  screen shot a video something and then maybe some interest.

3 weeks before release! are you all impatient?

It depends. Will there be a scrolling text in French?  ;D
Seriously, I'm curious to see someone from the c64 producing on cpc. Maybe some fresh ideas?

actually not so fresh ideas in my intro. it is a first try, do not forget it. but i tried to do the best i could.
@eto : did you want to tell me something?

Quote from: Bug Powell on 10:04, 30 March 22actually not so fresh ideas in my intro. it is a first try, do not forget it. but i tried to do the best i could.
@eto : did you want to tell me something?

there is many "line per line" FX missing on CPC

many 2D pattern with only 8 lines for the whole screen (like checker, but also kind of fractal design)

Quote from: roudoudou on 13:56, 30 March 22

Quote from: Bug Powell on 10:04, 30 March 22actually not so fresh ideas in my intro. it is a first try, do not forget it. but i tried to do the best i could.
@eto : did you want to tell me something?

there is many "line per line" FX missing on CPC

many 2D pattern with only 8 lines for the whole screen (like checker, but also kind of fractal design)

do you have some examples about what you are talking? it interests me a lot!

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:33, 30 March 22

Quote from: roudoudou on 13:56, 30 March 22many 2D pattern with only 8 lines for the whole screen (like checker, but also kind of fractal design)

do you have some examples about what you are talking? it interests me a lot!

goatlight
coma light
natural wonder
uncensored
...

i do not find anymore the infinite fractal zoomer, but that for sure doable on CPC

Quote from: roudoudou on 20:15, 30 March 22

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:33, 30 March 22

Quote from: roudoudou on 13:56, 30 March 22many 2D pattern with only 8 lines for the whole screen (like checker, but also kind of fractal design)

do you have some examples about what you are talking? it interests me a lot!

goatlight
coma light
natural wonder
uncensored
...

i do not find anymore the infinite fractal zoomer, but that for sure doable on CPC

Isn't the so called fractal zoomer (more like feedback effect) done in the latest Benediction demo? ( https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=88554 )

But yeah, there are so many new things that can be done on CPC, when watching demos in other platforms there are so many ideas. Only if I wasn't lazy...

i will try for my second demo!

i added a poll for my next intro, please give me your opinion

at the moment, 3 people want a wave scroller. and 2 people want me to stop the cpc as barjack.

I would like to see what you can do on the CPC coming from the C64. All the best with it. Ánimo

Not sure, why anyone would like to see a black screen. I take this was a joke entry. Out of all these options, I want to see a wave scroller.

Quote from: roudoudou on 20:15, 30 March 22

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:33, 30 March 22

Quote from: roudoudou on 13:56, 30 March 22many 2D pattern with only 8 lines for the whole screen (like checker, but also kind of fractal design)

do you have some examples about what you are talking? it interests me a lot!

goatlight
coma light
natural wonder
uncensored
...

i do not find anymore the infinite fractal zoomer, but that for sure doable on CPC

While you said, "coma light", I can't resist to post a link to one of my favorite C64 demos from Oxyron: Coma Light 13!

This demo is a example on good demo coding, in my opinion, as it shows that a good demo is not just a video player producing compressed video on the screen, (even though compression and precalculation is used on of all sort of things).

This demo is an unbelievable treasure chest, effects come and go in a 10 sec interval (rough estimate) while running approx. 10 minutes! Unbelievable how much work went into this production. Attention paid to every detail. The whole show is an endless transition of effects, and shows how important it is to do transitions, the result is sooo beautiful ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxxbcFqTdX8

The only ugly part is the hardware of the C64 that just can't produce beautiful colors. So if you would do any of effects on the CPC, it would look better just because of nicer colours.

Yup, that was a nice one.

5 people want me to stop cpc... it makes me sad.
@Barjack, @TotO, @Gryzor, what do you think about my poll? what did you answer?

Quote from: Bug Powell on 17:17, 04 April 225 people want me to stop cpc... it makes me sad.

once you proof that you actually release something that is worth watching, people will probably start voting for other options. 2 weeks to go, then we finally see what until now is just vaporware. (btw: I did not vote, I'm waiting for the Revision release).

Let's just say that the proposals are not very exciting.
You can find it all here
https://rasmlive.amstrad.info/browse (https://rasmlive.amstrad.info/browse)

without any fanfare :)

For example:
https://rasmlive.amstrad.info/edit/n6d8d5djzYSKKjGSA

You should not take serious that the people don't take your poll serious. 

As "Right Said Fred" said: Don't talk just release! :-) 

Quote from: Nworc on 12:16, 04 April 22

Quote from: roudoudou on 20:15, 30 March 22

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:33, 30 March 22

Quote from: roudoudou on 13:56, 30 March 22many 2D pattern with only 8 lines for the whole screen (like checker, but also kind of fractal design)

do you have some examples about what you are talking? it interests me a lot!

goatlight
coma light
natural wonder
uncensored
...
i do not find anymore the infinite fractal zoomer, but that for sure doable on CPC

While you said, "coma light", I can't resist to post a link to one of my favorite C64 demos from Oxyron: Coma Light 13!
This demo is a example on good demo coding, in my opinion, as it shows that a good demo is not just a video player producing compressed video on the screen, (even though compression and precalculation is used on of all sort of things).
This demo is an unbelievable treasure chest, effects come and go in a 10 sec interval (rough estimate) while running approx. 10 minutes! Unbelievable how much work went into this production. Attention paid to every detail. The whole show is an endless transition of effects, and shows how important it is to do transitions, the result is sooo beautiful ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxxbcFqTdX8
The only ugly part is the hardware of the C64 that just can't produce beautiful colors. So if you would do any of effects on the CPC, it would look better just because of nicer colours.

On cpc no demo comes close to Coma light. Could it be possible ?

Quote from: gurneyh on 20:13, 04 April 22On cpc no demo comes close to Coma light. Could it be possible ?

Coma Light 13 involved 10 people, close to the overall CPC demoscene contestants :P

another thing about that great c64 group...

(https://i.postimg.cc/NGKRG4fv/oxyron.png)

Definitely not possible on cpc. And it's not a technical problem :p

@roudoudou and @gurneyh do you want to make coma light cpc with me?

i announce you that i will not post here until revision and my intro is released. maybe i will come back after if you like my intro.

Very nice done! (et merci pour les chocolats)

Well done Man! I want chocolate too !

Nice intro  8) keep it up !

For those who wanna see it on the real hardware :

Swingin' (https://amstradplus.forumforever.com/t681-Production-Cpc-Plus-2022.htm?start=15#p7106)
Should work on crtc 0/1/3 and 4.

Have a nice day and wait for other revision's cpc productions coming soon !

Video anyone? I'm on the road🙂

Quote from: Gryzor on 09:52, 17 April 22Video anyone? I'm on the road🙂

not done yet ;)

Quote from: Gryzor on 09:52, 17 April 22Video anyone? I'm on the road🙂

Check YouTube. Bug Powell, revision. 

Chapéau, btw! 👍🏻

For YouTube lovers :

Swingin' (https://youtu.be/SjGGSEMgUoo)

Nice try. A nice intro for early 1990

"what could I have done in a week?"
Talk less for a year, and make progress?

thank you to people who sent me kind comments. do not hesitate to send me some thumb up on pouet: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=91306
it will motivate me to release another intro.
i am quite surprised that i got almost no comments from the active cpc demomakers from the groups i greeted (batman group, condense, logon system, vanity and benediction). also i would like to read @Gryzor opinion.

@gurneyh your message is not very encouraging. what did you expect for a firstie? also i could tell you exactly the same, you talk a lot on this forum and you released stuff that would be average in the 90s.

Well, in this case Greetings from FutureSoft!  ;D

Well done, looks good, we're looking forward to your next production.  :)

I think it is quite nice, specially considering it's your first one!

The thing I liked most though were the humorous messages  :D

neat

Please send me a thumbs up if you like this post

And if you find sarcasm in this post : you can keep it, thanks  :-*

Quote from: Bug Powell on 17:18, 17 April 22i am quite surprised that i got almost no comments from the active cpc demomakers from the groups i greeted (batman group, condense, logon system, vanity and benediction). also i would like to read @Gryzor opinion.

Please, don't restart to beg answers or comments. Peoples should have better to do on the Easter weekend. :)

Quote from: robcfg on 18:50, 17 April 22I think it is quite nice, specially considering it's your first one!

The thing I liked most though were the humorous messages  :D

thank you very much for your kind message!

and F.I.N.A.L.L.Y......... someone understood that all the text i wrote (in the forum or in the intro) was just pure humor! i just like to laugh. too bad that some people took this so seriously and send agressive messages.

Quote from: TotO on 08:19, 18 April 22

Quote from: Bug Powell on 17:18, 17 April 22i am quite surprised that i got almost no comments from the active cpc demomakers from the groups i greeted (batman group, condense, logon system, vanity and benediction). also i would like to read @Gryzor opinion.

Please, don't restart to beg answers or comments. Peoples should have better to do on the Easter weekend. :)

i just want to have feedback on my intro by experimented demomakers. what is wrong with that?
at the moment, i just feel like ignored by them which is not very pleasant i must admit. it seems shining from tgs has the same feeling.

Quote from: SkulleateR on 20:16, 17 April 22neat

Please send me a thumbs up if you like this post

And if you find sarcasm in this post : you can keep it, thanks  :-*

actually i like your humor man  8)

krusty did comment in fact, just not here. Most of them are more active on pouet, there's a better chance to find them there.
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=91306

Very nice, cheers guys!  ;D

Quote from: MaV on 09:41, 18 April 22krusty did comment in fact, just not here. Most of them are more active on pouet, there's a better chance to find them there.
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=91306

thank you @MaV for your comment. i saw that the famous @krusty_benediction sent the thumb up on pouet and i am truly happy for that. but when i was speaking about comments, it was comments about what one liked or disliked in my intro, what way should i explore to improve and do better next time. you know, community sharing. i dream of that.

also, why @norecess wrote comments to the 2 other cpc demos, and not mine?

Quote from: manossg on 09:46, 18 April 22Very nice, cheers guys!  ;D

thank you man, your words are heartwarming!

I watched the video it looks good, loving the music. Bug Powell how about doing a write up on how you achieved the effects.

just by focusing on what you can do next to raise the bar, surely acknowledgement will come by itself.  Ánimo!

Quote from: Bug Powell on 17:18, 17 April 22@gurneyh your message is not very encouraging. what did you expect for a firstie? also i could tell you exactly the same, you talk a lot on this forum and you released stuff that would be average in the 90s.

It was just a bad joke, based on one of the sentences in your demo.
No offence

Good job, for a first :)

Quote from: Bug Powell on 09:53, 18 April 22also, why @norecess wrote comments to the 2 other cpc demos, and not mine?

Claiming is bad

:)

Congratulations for your intro, Bug Powell ! It's really nice for a first attempt. I'm looking forward for more & more works from you on the CPC ^_^

Quote from: Bug Powell on 09:53, 18 April 22

Quote from: MaV on 09:41, 18 April 22krusty did comment in fact, just not here. Most of them are more active on pouet, there's a better chance to find them there.
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=91306

thank you @MaV for your comment. i saw that the famous @krusty_benediction sent the thumb up on pouet and i am truly happy for that. but when i was speaking about comments, it was comments about what one liked or disliked in my intro, what way should i explore to improve and do better next time. you know, community sharing. i dream of that.

also, why @norecess wrote comments to the 2 other cpc demos, and not mine?

come on, you cannot expect people to spend their time in writing things on forums, neither to write comments on demand

respect is earned by deeds, not by words

Great firstie, good job Bugpowell!

@gurneyh : i forgive you.
@tjohnson : it is a nice idea but i am not sure it would interest a lot of people.
@krusty_benediction : instead of writing this message, why did not you write a little review of my intro? it would have helped me to know what to improve next time. i want to be constructive. not you? i would feel very honored to have advices from you. i am sure that experimented coders helped you when you were a beginner.
@abalore : i never asked for respect, i just ask feedback. your feedback can be that you hate my intro if you write why. i have no problem with honesty.
thanks the people who write nice comments. i would like a review too.

I think you would be surprised, to people like to understand how these things work and what special trickery was used to create the effects.

Quote from: Bug Powell on 15:39, 18 April 22@abalore : i never asked for respect, i just ask feedback. your feedback can be that you hate my intro if you write why. i have no problem with honesty.

You created this post several weeks before the intro was released. What feedback did you expect from a simple plain, no detail announcement?

You started complaining long before the intro was released, almost a month before:

"it seems only 4 people are interested........ where are the demomakers? do you read cpc wiki forum?" Bug Powell, 20th April 2022

So yes, you were asking for respect before asking for feedback.

@abalore : i just want to share with demomakers. sorry if i am misunderstood. why spending time to write this message that is not kind instead of giving your opinion on my intro? it would be more positive.

wanna a short review? @Bug Powell

pros:
you succeed to finish your production in a short time (i guess)
you were opened enough to accept help from other people you didn't know
like the rotating bar in front of the swingin' logo
i like the sense of humor of your scroll text better than vanity one ;D

cons:
the x-ondulation GFX is outdated => maybe some dither, pattern to get more colors, ...
the y-ondulation of the swingin' logo should be better and should use more than one deformation => tube like, elastic-zoom like, ...

also i would like to write my opinion on the 2 other cpc demo released in revision.
open space: this intro is really beautiful, my teeth felt on the floor when watching it. how is it possible to have such content in so few space? it really impressed me a lot, i think vanity will become the new batman group.
pixel free: hard to read the scroller! it is a nice idea but i think that adding a curve on the scroller like in my intro would have been fun and surprising. i liked this colorful screen and hope to see another demo from this group.

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:06, 18 April 22why spending time to write this message that is not kind instead of giving your opinion on my intro? it would be more positive.

because I spend my time in what I want :D

I hope the freedom of speech is not abolished already
 

Quote from: roudoudou on 16:14, 18 April 22wanna a short review? @Bug Powell

pros:
you succeed to finish your production in a short time (i guess)
you were opened enough to accept help from other people you didn't know
like the rotating bar in front of the swingin' logo
i like the sense of humor of your scroll text better than vanity one ;D

cons:
the x-ondulation GFX is outdated => maybe some dither, pattern to get more colors, ...
the y-ondulation of the swingin' logo should be better and should use more than one deformation => tube like, elastic-zoom like, ...

thank you very much @roudoudou !!!!!! your review is very good, i appreciate it a lot! so i will try to improve my math level to create better curves. do you know interesting articles where i could learn things about that?
as you wrote, i am very open to work with any motivated people. about the text in the intro, i was laughing alone when i wrote it. i wrote provocative text not seriously, as you understood it  ;D ;D ;D
i will explore better effects for the next demo.
thanks again roudoudou, that is the positive attitude i like!

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Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:06, 18 April 22why spending time to write this message that is not kind instead of giving your opinion on my intro? it would be more positive.

because I spend my time in what I want :D

I hope the freedom of speech is not abolished already
 

i asked a question "why...". i never told you what you must do.
if asking a question is abolishing freedom...

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:31, 18 April 22

Quote from: abalore on 16:19, 18 April 22

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:06, 18 April 22why spending time to write this message that is not kind instead of giving your opinion on my intro? it would be more positive.

because I spend my time in what I want :D

I hope the freedom of speech is not abolished already
 

i asked a question "why...". i never told you what you must do.
if asking a question is abolishing freedom...

Sorry, boring conversation. About the intro... nothing to say. See you!

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Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:31, 18 April 22

Quote from: abalore on 16:19, 18 April 22

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:06, 18 April 22why spending time to write this message that is not kind instead of giving your opinion on my intro? it would be more positive.

because I spend my time in what I want :D

I hope the freedom of speech is not abolished already
 

i asked a question "why...". i never told you what you must do.
if asking a question is abolishing freedom...

Sorry, boring conversation. About the intro... nothing to say. See you!

too bad that you do not want to be my friend. i had a lot of constructive things to say about your game.

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:16, 18 April 22it really impressed me a lot, i think vanity will become the new batman group.

I don't think Vanity will take this as a compliment.

Quote from: MaV on 16:47, 18 April 22

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:16, 18 April 22it really impressed me a lot, i think vanity will become the new batman group.

I don't think Vanity will take this as a compliment.

my goal was to make a compliment. i am not aware of the stories between vanity and batman group. maybe i should have written vanity will become the new logon system.

Or not make any comparisons to other groups at all. It's a minefield.

Quote from: MaV on 16:55, 18 April 22Or not make any comparisons to other groups at all. It's a minefield.

so, vanity is the new.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Quote from: MaV on 16:47, 18 April 22

Quote from: Bug Powell on 16:16, 18 April 22it really impressed me a lot, i think vanity will become the new batman group.

I don't think Vanity will take this as a compliment.

they should :P

" vanity will become the new batman group " is THE perfect title for a demo! 8)

Quote from: rexbeng on 17:13, 18 April 22" vanity will become the new batman group " is THE perfect title for a demo! 8)

And who will do it? ;-)

Quote from: villain on 17:48, 18 April 22

Quote from: rexbeng on 17:13, 18 April 22" vanity will become the new batman group " is THE perfect title for a demo! 8)

And who will do it? ;-)

Errrr... Batman Group..? ;D

Nice intro, budding demo maker myself and and was thinking to maybe have a crack at something similar to your first screen.

Is the code available to read?

Enough demos! Time for serious software!  8)

I've decided to do a little making of concerning how swingin' logos were made.

All was written in french but you could follow the differents steps.

Swingin' gfx Making off (https://amstradplus.forumforever.com/t684-Swimin-intro-Graphics-making-off.htm#p7146)

But ... using French language... shouldn't you tell about more native French dances? I mean - nothing against the Swing - but isn't it rather from the colonies?  ;)

Sorry but i don't understand this hidden joke  :P ?
Can you tell me more ? I will answer you, for sure.

Need to do a into or something then...

Quote from: Ast on 16:50, 21 April 22I've decided to do a little making of concerning how swingin' logos were made.

All was written in french but you could follow the differents steps.

Swingin' gfx Making off (https://amstradplus.forumforever.com/t684-Swimin-intro-Graphics-making-off.htm#p7146)

Really interesting to see how the graphics were built-up, thanks!