Hello,
We are proud to present you our last demo. Please follow the link and enjoy.
http://cmussaperetto3.free.fr/IMPACT/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=519&t=3404 (http://cmussaperetto3.free.fr/IMPACT/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=519&t=3404)
Hope you will like it. Post your comments here and see you soon.
The CPC demo-scene needs more CPC+ demos and it's good to see people are still considering it as a viable demo-making machine.
Top job!
Thanks for your feedback. Cpc+ is really a great machine. I only regret there isn't many people to use it.
The DMA music on the second part is superb. I'm jealous of those lead sounds.
You'll probably Know this kind of music. It's called Sid Voice and comes from Atari ST.
Yes I do, but it's shame that I can't use it on my cpc music.
Cool demo! And cool composition of effects and music.
Now I need to fix my online CPC+ emulator to make it working... *grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr* ;)
Anyone any idea, why this happens?
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Good old Amstrad PLUS never fails when it comes to Raster time and extra coloured fine pixels.
and because it is still an Amstrad, Fullscreen and sweet AY sounds and the best palettes in 8bit world.
full screen Mode0 is great... the extra resolution (Fullscreen) makes the wide pixels pass visually, and the "Amiga/STE" palette is still more than actually needed (= perfect).
Merci AsT (and the rest).
I quite like the "vertical lines ditherings in mode1" effects/design/style.
I will test it on real hardware soon (lots of stormy weather this day, I won't plug my old machines)
Also I see BDC Iron is somewhat back.
Really nice on emulator, but does not work on my real 6128+ with 3 1/2" drive.
You've been really aggressive on step pulses :o
I've tested 3 different drives (sony, alps, yedata), same results.
Note that get dexter 2 does the same ::) and do not work on 3 1/2" (at least for me)
Thanks all for your feedback, glad to make you happy :D
@Gerald : I'll prepare a file version so that you'll be able to load it (just need a bit of time as I'm full this we).
Cheers.
What's wrong with IMPACT's forum?
Hey guys, could someone upload the demo here?
I try to get it and I get a 500 internal server error message... ???
Quote from: robcfg on 13:48, 01 September 12
Hey guys, could someone upload the demo here?
Either here; http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=59813 (http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=59813)
or attached below...
or here; http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=9472 (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=9472)
Thanks, Mister!
Or here:
Mes Démos - AST Impact (http://astimpact.weebly.com/mes-deacutemos.html)
Impact's forum is now ready! Sorry for internal error from free's provider.
Thanks for your fast reply.
For those who have problems with our fast(?) loader, a file version Will be ready soon.
@Ast: I am interested in the tool that can be used to create raster images, especially in mode 2.
Where can I download it?
This one:
Extra Coloured Maker 2 (or Extra Ced Maker 2)
Here are the Youtube videos, as posted at Ast Impact Forum...
Revival'n Impact Coop: part 1 (RST #38) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCUXi71Cnb0#)
Revival'n Impact Coop: part 2 (Witch is witch?) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2gjD0VGPUg#)
I think it's a shame that grown men continue to act like children and insist on disrespecting one another. When you have such a small community like ours, it's counter-productive to have smarmy and offensive things to say about each other. You guys might think it's funny and "all part of the demo community", but a lot of people really don't like it.
This CPC+ demo;
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/tastefulmrship/InappropriateDemo-SceneNonsense.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/tastefulmrship/InappropriateDemo-SceneNonsense.png)
P'n'P; Push'n'Pop | Amstrad CPC Demoscene | News (http://pushnpop.net/)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/tastefulmrship/PNPDisrespects.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g385/tastefulmrship/PNPDisrespects.png)
If I was a new scener wanting to join the CPC and continue the work that Rhino started with Batman Forever, saw the out-reach programme started by P'n'P and witnessed the battles between Longshot & Rhino, Hicks's "War Begins" and then all of this unnecessary peacocking, I'd think twice about looking at the CPC to code on. As it is, I've decided to stop any form of productions on CPC, it's simply not worth it. I'm happy to help other people (with CATart, code proof-reading, testing, etc) but have no intention of bettering my own ability.
Let's hope the CPC scene has a renaissance and wakes up!
You know, I personally don't care. I don't care cause if you enjoy what you do, if you enjoy doing it, no one can take that away from you. People may or not like what you do, but you did it. You took the time and effort to do it, you put love on it and something good came out of it. Some people will like it, some people will bash it, some people would not even care. But your work is there.
These fights between "sceners" sometimes have a lot of sides. Rivarly, frienship, hate, envy. I don't care, really not of my business. I only care about the work and art of those groups and individuals, about what they create on the cpc.
Let's keep creating new stuff for our beloved computers, folks.
You're right, I shouldn't really care.
It's a nice demo, at least graphically (watched at work, no sound). Sure, there are a bunch of standard effects, and a large reliance on the hardware sprites of the plus to achieve many of the overlay effects, but it's a darned sight more than I've done, it looks good, and it mimics very closely many early Amiga demos which were animating ball-figures over a background image with copper effects, and that's got to be applauded.
Don't know anything about the technical aspects but looks and sounds great... well impressed :)
QuoteI think it's a shame that grown men continue to act like children and insist on disrespecting one another. When you have such a small community like ours, it's counter-productive to have smarmy and offensive things to say about each other. You guys might think it's funny and "all part of the demo community", but a lot of people really don't like it.
Bienvenue en France.
All this started because in 1989 someone stole a disk from another guy who kissed another's else girlfriend... oh wait, are we talking about amstrad Scene in 1989 ?
Forget about it, just a virgin disk rape most probably.
I'll happily admit to never being the worlds biggest demo fan, so taken with a pinch of salt (also I've only watched the YouTube versions, I will give it a go on real hardware at the weekend if I get time!) I think it's an OK demo, but nothing all that outstanding (certainly not on par with the Batman one, for example).
Nicer choice of colours aside, it doesn't really seem to show off much that's especially difficult to do with the extra hardware in the Plus. I really want to see some demos that push a little harder, showing of the same old effects that have been seen over and over (albeit with a few hardware sprites over the top) isn't enough to impress. If it had the kind of artistic style that was seen in the Batman demo it might be a different matter, but as it stands it doesn't really have that sense of cohesion that might elevate it over the myriad of other demos out there.
Hopefully though it's a sign that more people are looking to the Plus and what it can do, so the next production can only get better. :)
Quote from: arnoldemu on 09:10, 03 September 12
@Ast: I am interested in the tool that can be used to create raster images, especially in mode 2.
Where can I download it?
This one:
Extra Coloured Maker 2 (or Extra Ced Maker 2)
Mail me ! I could send you Extra Ced Maker 2 with little explaination for sûre.
For those who can't run this demo (DisK Drive Tired), you can download the file version with the same link !
Thanks to F-Key for this realease !
@tastefulmrship : Sorry to shock you but my comments were only a joke !
Longshot will understand it for sure !
However, I'm all right about all your comments ! I understand why many people don't want to make anything on Amstrad Cpc.
It's a pity !
@AndyCadley : I take note about your comment for our next demo !
Markus did sned me this demo recently. Guess it pushes the Plus to some of its limits :-)
Great work guys, and thanks' a lot for all the work you put in!!! :-)))
Thanks! Hope you'll enjoy our work.
Well well, I'm here :)
I'd like to do a little interview of my friend called "Tastefulmrship":
1/ Can you remember us how many meeting did you go? (because I personally met all the demoscene in France and Germany since 15 years, but it seems that you have a better knowledge of the "spirit" of the scene than me, so I would like to take a lesson)
2/ Is it forbidden to dislike a demo and to say it? (PnP news, and I can explain why) What I often read is, on my opinion, bad taste, hypocrisy, or come from a "non demomaker spirit".
3/ Do you know that Amstrad CPC scene is not born in March 2011 with Batman Forever?
Concerning AST message about Longshot: everybody know that Longshot level is not very high today (conclusions based on his discussion with Grimmy about RVMB, me about AY crunching, Rhino about rotozoom and scrollzoom effect, etc. If you are contesting this point, I'm ready to heard your own opinion about all these points), but he don't claim anything so there is no problems with that. Of course, it's a crime to say that "Longshot level is not very high today" for nostalgic people, but it's obvious for every actual CPC demomaker. Why AST wrote this? Ok, it's provocation, and I've no problem with provocations. But it's funny to be so arrogant in a demo full of outdated effects and to release 6 years after DTC on a better machine a mush worse demo. If you want to cheat us, start by doing better demos :)
Hey Hicks.
Please don't be so harsh with Mr.Tastefulmrship.
He wasn't being that aggressive, he was just giving a "foreigner" point of view... from a non french guy, you know ?
Being from Ireland i guess he has an excuse for not attending to all the Demo parties in France und Deutchland... but he clearly knows about some Demoscene, perhaps he was more into the 16bit ones though...
But hey, I should take care of myself and mind my own bizness, he is big enough to reply himself. ;D
The competition spirit is still here, but the "Fucks" culture have been dropped down a lot in many other Demoscenes.
Bacause there is no more Atari Clan Vs Amiga clan... just a bunch of retro computers "otakus" actually sharing the same hobby, despite with different systems.
It is fun to see the "fuck" culture still exist strong in the French Amstrad Demoscene.
Not a big deal but non-Frenchs may not be aware of the compelx "personnal grudges and alliances matrix" of the French scene.
But you should understand that some peoples from other countries may not understand the reasons for this or even think of it as somewhat immature.
They perhaps candidly believe we are all a united Amstrad Family in a brightly coloured mode0 world...
Obviously not everywhere.
@MacDeath: Tastefulmrship says that I "act like children", I "disrespect" people, and speaks about "Hicks's war begin". I have to answer to theses public attacks. But he only speak about 2 texts by AST and me. So, one more question to Tastefulmrship: do you think that Rhino "act like children", "disrespect" me and launch a "war" by writing harsh texts towards Vanity in BF? Of course not. He just follow the traditional demomaker spirit (and there is absolutely no link with fuckings).
So, if I may ask, what exactly IS this infamous "compelx personnal grudges and alliances matrix of the French scene". Can anyone shed some light on the matter? Maybe we could even make a wiki entry about it since it is such an event in the CPCscene timeline. People WANT TO KNOW ;D
Well, don't you? People?
rb
Not really...
This should look like something like this...
(http://i.imgur.com/MY4Mo.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/MY4Mo.jpg)
;D
I guess I must be a Tyranid. :(
What I see in this image could be a really neat demo effect actually ;D
rb
Quote from: rexbeng on 19:26, 06 September 12
So, if I may ask, what exactly IS this infamous "compelx personnal grudges and alliances matrix of the French scene". Can anyone shed some light on the matter? Maybe we could even make a wiki entry about it since it is such an event in the CPCscene timeline. People WANT TO KNOW ;D
Well, don't you? People?
rb
+1 as Mc Klain.
Yes, ofcourse. We wouldn't want to "know", thanks for the advice. Actually we shouldn't even have to wonder what this is all about. So why do you keep this up? Ok, during the 90s, the quarells between the german scene and the french scene and the british scene could actually be considered kind of entertaining (for me at least, it was). But back then we only had a handful of diskmags or any other disk-spread-by-snail-mail media so there was actually very little communication. But now there's a couple of sites, forums, message boards... And a lot of space for us 50 people(?) to fit in and be happy about it.
So, again, why? Scene-demoish-trashing ("motivational") is one thing, keeping an everlasting dispute is another.
rb
QuoteWhat I see in this image could be a really neat demo effect actually
Please explain yourself...
Quote from: MacDeath on 13:11, 07 September 12
Please explain yourself...
The board gives me the impression of "demo-sh screenie" with somekind of "board & tiles/characters'" effect. :)
rb
could be done provided you can massively split raster without the colours being out of the box.
like mode1 attributes mode.
...or use mode 0 and not this many tiles? ;D
rb
Anyway the topic is derailing again ,sorry for this.
;D The post was about 'Demo Cpc+' but... It's always interesting to read your comments, so, no problem for me.
@Hicks: What CAN i say to you?
Nothing!
@MacDeath
Those videos you posted, are they from emulators or real hardware?
Obviously they were posted by Hermol, I guess it is emulator because it is quite difficult to take proper video from a real Amstrad.
Quote from: MacDeath on 07:56, 10 September 12
Obviously they were posted by Hermol, I guess it is emulator because it is quite difficult to take proper video from a real Amstrad.
Ok, thanks. I thought it might be.
@AST
One question; the part where the demo is building the image infront of the purple background; (
05:19 to 05:22)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QCUXi71Cnb0#t=320s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QCUXi71Cnb0#t=320s)
Is this part supposed to show the image being built up, pixel by pixel? The video just shows a bunch of lines and then an image suddently appears out of nowhere. Can someone please do a real-hardware video if this is the case?
Quote from: tastefulmrship on 08:00, 10 September 12
Is this part supposed to show the image being built up, pixel by pixel? The video just shows a bunch of lines and then an image suddently appears out of nowhere. Can someone please do a real-hardware video if this is the case?
Effect is the same on real HW.
BTW
1 - thanks for the file version ;)
2 - part 2 sound is far better on real HW than on the video.
Yes, i confirm. This effect is the same on real machine. It's exactly What i want to do.
Thanks to F-Key for the file version.
Quote from: Ast on 19:49, 11 September 12
Yes, i confirm. This effect is the same on real machine. It's exactly What i want to do.
Fair enough. I was just curious.
Quote from: gerald on 18:53, 11 September 12
2 - part 2 sound is far better on real HW than on the video.
We need a real hardware video with stereo sound ;D
The best way is to find and to buy a Cpc Plus. It will be better for sûre! :D
Yes, I wanted to capture and post video of the demo running on the real hardware, but hadn't had enough time.
I need to find a video recorder + post it on youtube
The best would be that someone do it for me. ;D
Whoever does it, please record the sound from the line output ;D
Cause the plus still comes with an stereo jack, doesn't it?
It has a Stereo jack.
Bryce.
Just watched this, belatedly. Not a bad demo, certainly, but nothing groundbreaking either. Some lovely effects that won't blow your mind, either from the point of originality or aesthetics (though very well polished), but I did enjoy watching it too much. First part could be a bit shorter. The tune in the first part is fantastic, but also the DMA sound in part II is... wow.
Yeah, same level as Batman forever.
:laugh:
Not really but Thanks! ;D
Demos are like movies, people have a different taste :) And I like this one here :)