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Title: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: arnoldemu on 18:01, 08 January 12
FYI: I tried to run 2 emulators (so far) using wine under linux.

wincpc works ok. not 100% but ok.
winape - no display, menus flicker. many problems.

I am testing under ubuntu 10.10, on a P4 equivalent (AMD based) machine 2.4Ghz. nvidia gfx card (but not nvidia drivers because they cause issue for me).
Of course they run slow, but wincpc runs really slow, almost unuseable. I was expecting it to run slow, but not this slow.

Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: Devilmarkus on 18:08, 08 January 12
winape - no display, menus flicker. many problems.

Did you disable the directx functions in WinApe's display settings?
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: PhilZeVibe on 18:20, 08 January 12
Using a Windows emulator (wine) to run a CPC emulator, that's an interesting concept :D
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: robcfg on 18:32, 08 January 12
Try running linux on a virtual machine, running wine and the the emulator for the extra silly touch!  ;D
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: mr_lou on 20:57, 08 January 12
Why are you testing emulator with wine?
I mean, especially considering you're the author of the Linux version of Arnold....
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: Devilmarkus on 21:05, 08 January 12
Why do you run CPC games in Mame?
I mean you own a CPC... :D
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: mr_lou on 21:20, 08 January 12
Why do you run CPC games in Mame?
I mean you own a CPC... :D

I don't run CPC games in Mame. I run some CPC games in Mess.
And I do so because they are more fun to play on an arcade cabinet. Games like Dead on Time, R-type and Bubble Bobble are definitely more fun that way.
Other more cozy games I still play on a real CPC, like Radzone and Obsidian and such.

So, it depends on the game.
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: Devilmarkus on 21:25, 08 January 12
Oh... Ok.... Mess then...
(What a mess :D )
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: mahlemiut on 23:32, 08 January 12
WinAPE runs well under Wine 1.3.35 for me.

2.53GHz C2D E7200, Ubuntu 10.04, Nvidia binary X server 195.36.24.

Speed with WinCPC could possibly be due to not having fully accelerated X server, OpenGL will emulate in software (very slowly) any function that can't be done in hardware.  Not sure of the capabilities of the open source Nvidia driver, though.
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: ralferoo on 11:02, 15 January 12
Interesting that people have got WinAPE to work with wine. For me, it's always appeared to work until you open dialog boxes at which point it acts strange.

It's also interesting that people are failing with WinCPC. I use this under wine on 3 different Linux systems and I've never had a serious problem with it. Sometimes if you're playing music when you load it, it won't be able to access the sound device and there's quite a bit of TTY spam too, but it always seems to run reliably.
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: mr_lou on 11:06, 15 January 12
But.... why run Windows emulator, when there are several Linux emulators? Arnold and Caprice runs fine, or?
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: ralferoo on 11:22, 15 January 12
But.... why run Windows emulator, when there are several Linux emulators? Arnold and Caprice runs fine, or?
For me, the debugging facilities of WinCPC and WinAPE are amazing. Being able to breakpoint the code and see exactly the CRTC MA/RA position highlighted is probably the most amazingly feature ever! That and they both do a very good job of emulating monitor behaviour too. The built in assemblers are an absolute must for me too.

I tried a couple of Linux emulators, but I always kept coming back to WinCPC under wine.
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: Gryzor on 13:42, 18 January 12
If you use it regularly then why not use VirtualBox and run it "natively" under Windows? Sure, a couple of wasted GBs, but...
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: arnoldemu on 15:48, 19 January 12
But.... why run Windows emulator, when there are several Linux emulators? Arnold and Caprice runs fine, or?
only for comparison, but also to see how the competition works under this platform.

Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: arnoldemu on 15:49, 19 January 12
For me, the debugging facilities of WinCPC and WinAPE are amazing. Being able to breakpoint the code and see exactly the CRTC MA/RA position highlighted is probably the most amazingly feature ever! That and they both do a very good job of emulating monitor behaviour too. The built in assemblers are an absolute must for me too.

I tried a couple of Linux emulators, but I always kept coming back to WinCPC under wine.
I am still working on an improved version of Arnold which works under Linux (it's my development platform).
The debugger is much better than before (compared to win32 version).
I plan to integrate pasmo assembler too (I have permission from the author).
So in the future, you may move to another emu ;)
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: Ynot.zer0 on 19:31, 21 January 12
I'm running Tiny Core Linux off a USB stick... it is extremely fast and minimal!

I had no success with winape and wincpc running via wine, I'd get the blue amstrad screen displayed but any text I entered would just be output in the terminal window where I ran wine from.  I tried fiddling around with the graphics settings, to no avail.  (I assume that Tiny Core doesn't load all the fancy graphics libraries that ubuntu etc... do, as the purpose of the distro. is to be lean and mean).

What I did get running nicely was xcpc.  it's simple and basic but it works okay.  If anyone else has tried any of this on Tiny (http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/welcome.html) and got it working, I'd be glad to know!
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: SyX on 18:28, 22 January 12
For WinApe in my Debian Sid 64, i'm using the wine packages from here, (http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/) but not the last version, i'm using an old wine 1.3.26... if it works, don't touch  ;D
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: Bryce on 11:47, 23 January 12
WinApe on Debian SID 64?? Sounds like it's a setup for a Commodore!

Bryce.
Title: Re: windows emulators running under linux
Post by: SyX on 15:21, 23 January 12
Well, Sid (https://www.google.com/search?q=sid+toy+story&hl=es&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=HF0dT972BI2LhQfi_PT-AQ&ved=0CCQQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=893) has the look of a typical commodore user  ;D