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Title: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: jaymanu on 20:55, 15 September 19
Hello all.

I've been puzzled by this game as a kid : Black Magic (Datasoft / US gold 1987).I know it's not one of the best cpc ports, but I wanted to see more of it.So I created a trainer version. You will find it here attached, if it can be useful to anyone else.
Interestingly, there is a hidden character class beyond apprentice, wizard, sorcerer and necromancer.It's called PROGRAMMER, and gives access to 2 additional hidden spells which are not selectable in the regular game.
Title: Re: Black Magic : new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Gryzor on 17:36, 25 September 19
Didn't even know of the game. Doesn't look too good for '87, does it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpcvOxg8Uik
Title: Re: Black Magic : new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: jaymanu on 17:45, 25 September 19
Yeah right, it looks very 84'ish. Especially, the controls are awful and the bird is ruining the gameplay a lot. Add an incredible slowness to this..


I can understand why i didnt get far by then.
Anyway, i had a revenge to take on that game, so here is a complete mapping for the 2 episodes, which i had fun generating. (I learned a lot about CPC video modes and palettes).

Title: Re: Black Magic : new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Gryzor on 17:48, 25 September 19
Haha I know the feeling :D Same happened to me with Into Oblivion, my first game. I sucked so bad in it back in the day and in retrospect it was a very simplistic and 'meh' game, but it being my first love I kept going at it for ages*...


*still, never got anywhere after all. The only think I've got to show for it is a framed, signed by the programmer copy of the game!
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: jaymanu on 17:56, 25 September 19
Well, i never played oblivion, but it seems to be charted territory : A map, pokes and trainer can be found online.. you're lucky on this one :)
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: jaymanu on 13:21, 26 September 19
Hello
Reposting here a newer version of the maps.
I corrected a wrong color in the palette, and corrected an issue with signposts.


Part 1 - The forest
Part 2 - Zahgrim's castle
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Gryzor on 14:12, 26 September 19
Well back then I didn't have a cheat and the map was created only recently by our good friend Border7, and still unfinished, so I don't hold any hope...
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Bryce on 14:26, 26 September 19
My "go to" conjuring game is Feud. Cool music and quasi-3D effects.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Gryzor on 14:32, 26 September 19
Ah that's a good one.
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: jaymanu on 15:13, 26 September 19
interestingly, in Black Magic, when you cast the hidden spell named 'HI THER', it displays :


CONVERSION BY TONY WARRINER. HI THERE!


It seems that the guy subsquently had quite a career in videogames after that. And is even still active. check out : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Warriner (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Warriner)

Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Gryzor on 15:18, 26 September 19
It's funny when you see someone from back then still doing stuff... :)
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Bryce on 15:20, 26 September 19
Aren't the Oliver Twins still in the business too?

Bryce.
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Gryzor on 15:24, 26 September 19
Somewhat, yes.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Oliver_Twins#

Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Border_7 on 13:14, 09 October 20
Well back then I didn't have a cheat and the map was created only recently by our good friend Border7, and still unfinished, so I don't hold any hope...


A bit late to this party.... Into Oblivion, yes unfinished map, as I never visited every screen, but found enough safe planets that you can complete the game using the map. It took months....arghhhh... would love to see proper screen shot map...would be massive. Over 1000 screen I think... that Stephen Curtis guy tortured me for a good chunk of 80s and early 90s :)
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Gryzor on 15:27, 09 October 20
Back then (when you were doing the map) I was betting you were having nightmares because of it :D
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Sykobee (Briggsy) on 00:08, 10 October 20
That bloody roc / bird. Annoyed me all the time, although I like the game otherwise, I liked the aesthetic.
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Border_7 on 00:28, 10 October 20
Back then (when you were doing the map) I was betting you were having nightmares because of it :D


Was having them during the day too... would you believe I did the whole map while at work. Yes, thats right, I got paid to play and make that map lol. Nearly got caught out many times :)  IO was missing some cool music....


Who wanted a Radzone map? Playing that with my two boys at the moment... maybe we will make a map ;) I have spared them waiting for the tape version to load though. Boy didnt we learn patience back then? Hearing my 6yo hum the Radzone tune is kinda cool and weird at same time.
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Sykobee (Briggsy) on 00:37, 10 October 20
I have seen a Radzone map somewhere, but I cannot find it now.


Radzone needs more than a map however, IMO! Never really knew what I was doing, except reading the messages in the wall.
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Border_7 on 00:09, 11 October 20
 :D  You just have to collect every object in each screen to make it a Safe Zone... rinse and repeat... although sometimes objects hard to see/need a nasty to touch it first so it is the right colour / not always obvious you can go certain routes... some of the screens a darn friggin hard. Glad you can save these days!
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Gryzor on 09:52, 12 October 20

Was having them during the day too... would you believe I did the whole map while at work. Yes, thats right, I got paid to play and make that map lol. Nearly got caught out many times :)  IO was missing some cool music....

Dream job. Or nightmare job, depending on how you see it :D
Title: Re: Black Magic : mapping + new trainer and hidden spells
Post by: Border_7 on 05:34, 13 October 20
Closer to nightmare I'd say... but got a lot of cpc stuff accomplished, so All Good Man :)