Hi everybody,
this is my first post.
I'm trying to compile a list of all Amstrad CPC's games with multiple conversions, I mean same game released in various editions (even by different software-houses), both official (like the two version of the first Double Dragon) and unofficial (R-Type regular version and the recent 128k revamp).
Any help would be great. :) thanks.
Fed
Welcome! Hope you stick around =)
Bubble Bobble and Rick Dangerous got 128k revamps in recent enough years.
Blockbusters was another, first by Macsen and then again by TV Games a couple of years later.
There are also two versions of Paperboy doing the rounds, one UK and one Spanish.
Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 18:49, 17 April 17
There are also two versions of Paperboy doing the rounds, one UK and one Spanish.
I don't believe the 'other' Paperboy is a Spanish version at all; see my analysis (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/games/the-'other'-paperboy/msg51011/#msg51011) in another thread.
Quote from: felow on 18:41, 17 April 17
I'm trying to compile a list of all Amstrad CPC's games with multiple conversions, I mean same game released in various editions (even by different software-houses), both official (like the two version of the first Double Dragon) and unofficial (R-Type regular version and the recent 128k revamp).
Killapede (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=1243) by The Oliver Twins was initially released by Players, but when Players refused to pay them what they thought was a reasonable amount of money, they offered it to The Power House, who then published it - and went bust shortly afterwards.
The Oliver Twins' own site has more information (http://www.olivertwins.com/history/page/5) on this.
I've thought of a couple more games:
- By Fair Means or Foul (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=620) by Superior Software was re-released by Code Masters as Pro Boxing Simulator, who controversially advertised it as a 'new release'.
- Tournament Snooker (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=3510) by Magnificent 7 was also re-released by Code Masters as Professional Snooker Simulator.
- Formula One (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=908) by CRL was re-released by Alternative Software as Formula Grand Prix. This was also a source of controversy, because Code Masters claimed the artwork for Formula Grand Prix (http://www.cpc-power.com/PictureZoom.php?extra=package&fiche=908&slot=6&part=A&type=.jpg) was too similar to that of their own release, Grand Prix Simulator (http://www.cpc-power.com/PictureZoom.php?extra=package&fiche=1001&slot=6&part=A&type=.jpg) (links helpfully provided so you can judge for yourself :)).
I really am a walking encyclopaedia of Amstrad CPC games, aren't I? ::)
What about Bumpy and Pop-Up? :)
How about US Gold's "glorious" World Cup Carnival?
:laugh:
Thanks for all replies. All very useful.
Some questions:
Can someone please provide a link to Rick Dangeorus 128k, and for what I understand this is not an official update of the original title right?
Some more details about World Cup Carnival would be appreciated: is there another version not by US Gold?
Thx
You can find it here:
http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=4721
(always check cpc-power first!)
Quote from: felow on 07:14, 18 April 17
Thanks for all replies. All very useful.
Some questions:
Can someone please provide a link to Rick Dangeorus 128k, and for what I understand this is not an official update of the original title right?
Some more details about World Cup Carnival would be appreciated: is there another version not by US Gold?
Thx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Cup_Carnival
http://twohundredpercent.net/twenty-five-years-on-the-world-cup-carnival-fiasco/
There's also Phantis (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&onglet=dumps&num=95) by Dinamic, which was released outside Spain as Game Over II, with modified sprites and a different loading screen.
Quote from: felow on 07:14, 18 April 17
Can someone please provide a link to Rick Dangeorus 128k, and for what I understand this is not an official update of the original title right?
You're correct; it isn't an official update. Here are some links:
CPCWiki entry (http://cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Rick_Dangerous_128%2B)
BDCIron's site (in French) (http://www.roudoudou.com/iron/CPC/TEST-JEUX/RICK-DANGEROUS-128%2B.htm)
Discussion on CPCWiki forum (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/games/rick-dangerous-128!!!!/)
Into the eagles nest there is to or three different versions of the game.
Different screen layout and different music.
Hi,
wasn't Macadame Bumper also released in various versions with different graphics on the CPC?
Quote from: jason9 on 17:15, 19 April 17
wasn't Macadame Bumper also released in various versions with different graphics on the CPC?
There is a version of the game where the woman on the left of the screen is nude, but no one seems to be entirely certain of its origin (i.e. if it's an official release from ERE Informatique or another software house, or if it's a modified crack).
I had a version of Titus the Fox without any Music if that counts, apart from that everything else I think was the same.
That reminds me that there was a version of Mystical without music too... I think the 464 port.
The 128kb version of some games have some enhanced features: digitalized voices in Robocop and DragonNinja, for example. Green Beret has some enhanced graphics in the 128kb version too. And don't forget the star answer to this topic: Double Dragon 1 & 2.
Concerning Double Dragon:
- I know about the two official but very different portings reelased at the time, but had never understood if the one usually considered "better" (the Atari ST porting for what I know) was only available for 128k (and so disk). And the other version was anyway available also on disk?
- About Double Dragon II, a part for the music/non music differences between the 64k and 128k, I've just discovered that there was also a different Spanish conversion...any further details about it?
Commando and that snow alien version. I think that version was for the German market.
Concerning Double Dragon II, I guess this is the Spanish version:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsGxE_Nabns)
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...very similar to the first one cassette edition.
Anyway don't know if those two versions (of I and II):
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnAYiCYcu-U)
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(incredible conversion, maybe the best for CPC of all the trilogy)
also exists in cassette formats without music or were only available for 6128 disks.
You seriously need a beefier PC or a new emulator! That's the laggiest piece of junk i've ever seen! 😂
The first vid is the Spanish version, aka the 64k tape version. Not sure I ever saw it as a full price release on tape but the Tronix label definitely had it on budget.
The second two vids are the proper Virgin releases done by Richard Aplin. These did see a full priced release but much later than it's other 8bit counterparts. Aplin was working on this at the same time as Shinobi according to an AA interview. Work then commenced on DDII almost immediately after the first was finished.
These didn't see 64k tape releases to my knowledge. 464 couldn't handle it natively, it barely handled Shibobi (the sound had to be completely stripped). Double Dragon 1 did see a couple of tape compilations but it was the crappy version (confirmed on the 100% dynamite compilation)
Thanks a lot, very helpful. But... just to understand: why I would need a beefier Pc or better emulator? Can't get it sorry...
Quote from: felow on 20:44, 20 May 17
Thanks a lot, very helpful. But... just to understand: why I would need a beefier Pc or better emulator? Can't get it sorry...
I was joking. Although the sound and animation in some of those videos were very laggy. 😉
Ah ok ;-) Anyway those aren't my uploads, I just found them on the tube :-) thanks again.
Someone can tell me if the package of DD and DDII two versions was the same?
...I mean original release, not on a budget.
Quote from: felow on 21:23, 20 May 17
Someone can tell me if the package of DD and DDII two versions was the same?
Check cpc-power for all the different packaging. Although honestly, I've never seen either DD or DDII as a standalone release in Ireland, either as a 64k or a 128k version at full price. First time I found Double Dragon was on the 100% Dynamite compilation in 1990, and that was the crappy Dro-Soft version. But then, disc based software seemingly wasn't a major priority here in Dublin, tapes were pushed a lot heavier, so I'm assuming that was different in the UK.
The game was such a farce in terms of the Amstrad release because other formats had seen it well over a year before the Amstrad did. AA didn't even get to review it, which was a rarity. I wasn't even aware of the 128k version for several years later, probably because I had a 464.
Regarding DDII. Only ever saw the Tronix budget version, but again, cpc-power has scans of the full priced version cover, also worth having a nose at. =)
CpcRulez has a package gallery for all versions. It seems both (I an II) had a regularly release and a budget. Also both shared quite the same artwork and packaging:
http://cpcrulez.fr/GamesTest/double_dragon_1.htm (http://cpcrulez.fr/GamesTest/double_dragon_1.htm)
http://cpcrulez.fr/GamesTest/double_dragon_1-animagic.htm (http://cpcrulez.fr/GamesTest/double_dragon_1-animagic.htm)
http://cpcrulez.fr/GamesTest/double_dragon_2.htm (http://cpcrulez.fr/GamesTest/double_dragon_2.htm)
http://cpcrulez.fr/GamesTest/double_dragon_2-animagic.htm (http://cpcrulez.fr/GamesTest/double_dragon_2-animagic.htm)
J
Not entirely sure what counts, but here goes:
- the Bubble Bobble 4CPC remake
- Ghostbusters has 2 versions, one with a bounching ball and one with a arrow.
- Dizzy has a christmas version on a Amstrad Action covertape where the items are placed differently than the orginal Dizzy.
- Most Microprose games like Silent Service & Pirates! has multiple language versions, with different box art as well.
- The tape version Final Fight had an error so it crashed after a couple of levels. A few years ago a fixed version was released.
- Jack and the Beanstalk had a similar error. A repaired version was released long time ago that makes the game playable beyond map 3
- Many games was released with mutiple versions, even on the same tape and/or disc. This was usually bacause of the giant 16k screen size of the amstrad. So games like Yi Ar Kung Fu has 2 versions on the same tape .. one side has the game with the waterfall background and the version on the other side has the temple background. But the disc version uses both backgrounds in the same one version aka has the waterfall for the first 4 char fights and temple for the last 4. Barbarian probably takes the prices as it has 4 different versions on one tape. I recall seeing a strategy game (name escapes me) that had both a single player game on one side of the tape & a multiplayer version on the other.
- text/adventure games quite often has muliple system versions (cpc, pcw, spec3+) on the same disk and even on the same side of the disk. Quite common to have a normal version and a "extended graphics" version for 128k as well.