Midnight Resistance CPC Plus Patch?!

[viddi]

Hi,

I´d like to play MR on my Plus machine but it doesn´t do anything when I have to press a key to continue right after the title screen.
Do you guys know if there is a Plus compatible version out there, or do we need a patch? 

Thanks a lot for your help!

[arnoldemu]

Hi,

I´d like to play MR on my Plus machine but it doesn´t do anything when I have to press a key to continue right after the title screen.
Do you guys know if there is a Plus compatible version out there, or do we need a patch? 

Thanks a lot for your help!

T&J website confirms that the keyboard routine is not compatible with plus.
Not sure if a patch exists yet...
Which version did you need a patch for?
hacked disc/tape or original tape/disc?

[viddi]

Thanks for your reply, arnoldemu!

The Two Mag version would be nice:
http://www.cpc-power.com/pages/download_part.php?fiche=1417&dsk=1&part=Midnight%20Resistance%20%28UK%29%20%281990%29.dsk


I think it´s 100% complete...

[MacDeath]

Too bad the game would remain a sluggish speccy proc...tort...

[ukmarkh]

Eh! Back off, this was a bloody good game on the CPC

[Gryzor]

Well... I think it *was* a good game, because I adored the arcade, but really you need the special arcade controller to play it to its full potential...

[Devilmarkus]

There exist many really good games (gameplay, game idea etc) but with poor GFX adapted from spectrum
I think because lack of time when these games have been coded.
They surely first coded speccy version and then, in little time only, they adapted them for CPC...

[viddi]

Right, but I think using Mode 1 here was a great idea.
The graphics are highly detailed and do have a clever colour scheme.

...much better than the C64 version...

[arnoldemu]

Right, but I think using Mode 1 here was a great idea.
The graphics are highly detailed and do have a clever colour scheme.

...much better than the C64 version...

I looked at the keyboard routine, trying to make a version which is compatible with the CPC+ AND will fit into the space used by the existing function.

[viddi]

I looked at the keyboard routine, trying to make a version which is compatible with the CPC+ AND will fit into the space used by the existing function.

Wow, thank you very much for your efforts.
It´ll hopefully work. Fingers crossed.

[MacDeath]

There exist many really good games (gameplay, game idea etc) but with   poor GFX adapted from spectrum
I think because lack of time   when these games have been coded.
They surely first coded speccy   version and then, in little time only, they adapted them for CPC...

I agree the speccy port is not that bad in this case.
They properly re-coloured the Graphix so it looks well.

And this kind of proper "codoe" of the Graphix is more sign of a Cross dev than a shitty port, but we know the difference betwen both is often quite slight..

Yet the game still remains with some traditionnal Speccy port flaws :

--too small screen with to big sprites :  GThe big sprite fill too much of the screen and each time you activate the vertical scrolling, it's terribly slow...yet because the screen is small, you activate this scrolling too often.

You know, this kind of feeling with Strider or Black Tiger ? that each time you jump, the games is starting scrolling everywhere sluggishly...
Of course it's not as bad in Midnight resistance because you can control your jumps betterly.

--Sprites are too square and larges : seems to be as large as high. Of course a square shape enable to lower a bit the colour clashes on the speccy.
But on and Amstrad it's bad and may even use a bit to much tiles/Datas IMO..

--Bad shoots spriting : some of your shoots are too big IMO, and to slow.
Sometime you even seem to run faster than your shoots.

--Perhaps too much animation frames for some stuff...
Explosion are not that great and may be too heavy in my opinion for the engine.


But on the overall the game is not too bad at all, being relatively quite faithfull to the Arcade.

And yes the Graphics are good for a Mode1.

Well... I think it *was* a good game, because I adored the arcade, but   really you need the special arcade controller to play it to its full   potential...

That's one of the stuff I try to promote...
The games of our youth were often badly restricted to a 1 button joy while it could have been easy to actually get 6 button Joy or even double directionnal joy.

The Nunchaku technique may enable the use of one Paddle in each hand, and getting ability to move with one and fire at wanted direction with the other.

Most multidirectional shooters/platformshooters/run and guns with only 1 player mode may have used this.

Gryzor, Commando, Midnight Resistance, Robocop, Tank, etc...

Of course you may put this with games like Ikari Warriors or Forgotten Worlds...
And many Shooters may be great with such a system : Dead on Time IMO could do well with this...


Another way may also be (for a 2 Player mode) to mix Keyboards + directionnal paddle...

So enabling a 2 player mode.

Not that different from First person shooters on a modern PC (with a mix Keyboard + Mouse).

Or on a PLUS, mixing with 2 Joys and 2 Anal joys...


Rewirinbg a modern PC joyPaddle may be great, but as no games support such gameplay no one do it, and as no one do it, no games support such gameplay (lol).

Perhaps some kind of heavy patch on existing games tyo support those kind of gameplay

[Tom&Jerry]

Hello,

You can find here a patched release of this game :

http://tj.gpa.free.fr/temp/MIDNIGHT.ZIP

have fun :-).

T&J/GPA

[Gryzor]

Patched, doing what?

[Devilmarkus]

Patched, doing what?

Fixes the keyboard?
(That was the topic here...)

[arnoldemu]

MacDeath confused things a little with his rant about speccy ports

[Gryzor]

Exactly - I thought maybe someone patched it for dual controllers and scrolling screen

[Devilmarkus]

Exactly - I thought maybe someone patched it for dual controllers and scrolling screen

+ DMA hifi stereo music

[TomEtJerry]

Exactly - I thought maybe someone patched it for dual controllers and scrolling screen

Sorry to have made your heart beat faster for a little while, but, of course, that's just a keyboard routine patch :-). I am not able to make reverse engeenering on such a game and I have no time for that :-).

T&J/GPA

[Devilmarkus]

Sorry to have made your heart beat faster for a little while, but, of course, that's just a keyboard routine patch :-). I am not able to make reverse engeenering on such a game and I have no time for that :-).

But we want it!!!
You are held now in this forum until you have a realtime rendered 3d-version with hifi-stereo sound and analog joystick control!

[Cholo]

But we want it!!!
... a realtime rendered 3d-version with hifi-stereo sound ...

Yes YES I see it too. I assume this refer to the brand new 3D tv that Samsung has just launch for the home marked today ( anyone who can borrow me £3000 that the tv+box+glasses cost?).

World Cup Soccer and Midnight Resistance CPC in 3D .. what more do you need this sommer?

[viddi]

Wow, great news!!


I´ll try it out tom.
Thank you very much so far.

[ukmarkh]

I played a game on the CPC many years ago, it was in 3D and you had to play it wearing the glassess. You basically walked FPS style through some sort of cave, Can't remember the name, it might have been a pile of shizzle, but kinda cool all the same.

[MacDeath]

I see I get criticised because of my personnal crusade against the speccy...

Sorry, i was probably drunk.

Long live the speccy porcs !

I played a game on the CPC many years ago, it was in 3D and you had to   play it wearing the glassess.

Relief Action from Loriciels ?
http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&onglet=pub&num=1783
http://www.cpc-power.com/images/pub/1783_1.jpg

[arnoldemu]

I see I get criticised because of my personnal crusade against the speccy...

Sorry, i was probably drunk.

Long live the speccy porcs !

Relief Action from Loriciels ?
http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&onglet=pub&num=1783
http://www.cpc-power.com/images/pub/1783_1.jpg

I did not criticise you.
Please continue your crusade.

[Devilmarkus]

I want "Fallout 3" for CPC 464 on tape!