Hello,
Orion Prime, the biggest aventure game on CPC, can now be ordered in English, Spanish, and French ! The ordering will stop at the end of April, so don't waste time and order as soon as possible, by cheque or Paypal. Downloadable versions will be available at the end of June.
Evrything you need to know is here :
http://op.cpcscene.com
See you soon,
Targhan/Arkos.
Hi Julien,
how's about a German version? Is it cancelled or will it also be released?
Ordered my version :).
@Devilmarkus: Here is what they wrote on their website
Quote
German version will not be released as a Package. It may also not be released as download.
Order placed. I'm still interested in a german version, but don't mind playing it in english before. ;D
P.s. Did you consider offering bank-transfer? With IBAN it's not hard inside the european union. You probably already have an IBAN number with your bank account, even though you might not know. Much easier than sending a cheque and interesting for those people who refuse to use paypal.
Quote from: nurgle on 22:19, 15 March 10
P.s. Did you consider offering bank-transfer? With IBAN it's not hard inside the european union. You probably already have an IBAN number with your bank account, even though you might not know. Much easier than sending a cheque and interesting for those people who refuse to use paypal.
I would also order when I can pay with IBAN/BIC!
Ordered and payed :). Can't wait to get my version...
Don't count on the german version. I've tried several times to get it done, I may change my mind but right now, I'm fed up with it. Sorry :). Octoate did a great job and proof readed efficiently, but both translators stopped responding.
@DevilMarkus:
I'm not confident about spreading my IBAN/BIC around the web, that's why Paypal will be used. Remember we're not an industry, just normal guys with no offshore account :).
Trg.Aks
Quote from: Targhan on 23:14, 15 March 10
@DevilMarkus:
I'm not confident about spreading my IBAN/BIC around the web, that's why Paypal will be used. Remember we're not an industry, just normal guys with no offshore account :).
Well, you shouldn't spread it... But if someone asks, you could PM it ;)
(I have no paypal and cheque)
Aaaaah, finally! I was already boring Julien when the english version will be finally released! :P
It is a pitty that the german version is on hold, as it would have completed the release, even I prefer the english version.
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 23:51, 15 March 10
(I have no paypal and cheque)
PayPal is nowadays almost a must in my opinion. So much stuff I could have never ordered without my PayPal account. And I dont see the problem into using it, as it just deducts the money from my banking account as I used it. Not much different then electronic bank transfer itself!
So Markus, go and make a PayPal account, takes just 5 minutes! ;D
Yeah, ordered mine! 8)
Markus, I could pay for you if you want.
Just send me the money via bank transfer...
PM me if you want me to do it. :)
Quote from: Targhan on 23:14, 15 March 10
Don't count on the german version. I've tried several times to get it done, I may change my mind but right now, I'm fed up with it. Sorry :). Octoate did a great job and proof readed efficiently, but both translators stopped responding.
Trg.Aks
So like offered already very often... ;-) Send me the text to futuresoft@gmx.de and you will get the translation quick. I'm not Prodatron, I'm not Poliander - I'm TFM and I uphold my word. Octoate will be pleased to proofread my translation!.
Hope really we can save the german version !!!
TFM
Placed my order for the English version... woo hoo
Ordered, both in 3" and 3.5". I haven't spent that much money for new CPC software since.... well, I don't remember actually!!! Over 20 years maybe!
This game had better live upto the hype? The distrubution seems to be handled far better than Star Sabre, I was never able to buy a copy of that game on any sort of disk, only shitty tape.
Quote from: Gryzor on 13:01, 19 March 10
Ordered, both in 3" and 3.5". I haven't spent that much money for new CPC software since.... well, I don't remember actually!!! Over 20 years maybe!
And I thought you cracked all the games 20 years ago ;-)
Looking forward for the Boxed Version! (Only have to get that cheque out). OP writes legends and displaces the c64 finally! What a great job!
Quote from: ukmarkh on 16:48, 19 March 10
This game had better live upto the hype? The distrubution seems to be handled far better than Star Sabre, I was never able to buy a copy of that game on any sort of disk, only shitty tape.
Yes, the tape idea was a nice joke, but a 3" disc (or even better 3.5" disc) would have been fine. Great game anyway.
Quote from: TFM/FS on 17:44, 19 March 10
And I thought you cracked all the games 20 years ago ;-)
Looking forward for the Boxed Version! (Only have to get that cheque out). OP writes legends and displaces the c64 finally! What a great job!
Will there be a boxed version? Really??? Oh crap, another load of money down the CPC drain :D
And, well, I didn't pirate ALL of them, just most of them :) Makes me wonder what was the last game I bought as an original... now that's an interesting discussion!
Quote from: ukmarkh on 16:48, 19 March 10
This game had better live upto the hype? The distrubution seems to be handled far better than Star Sabre, I was never able to buy a copy of that game on any sort of disk, only shitty tape.
Not true
available from psytronik on 3" disk
http://www.binaryzone.org/retrostore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=87_100&products_id=519 (http://www.binaryzone.org/retrostore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=87_100&products_id=519)
What do you mean not true, this has only just become available on 3" disk... Star Sabre has been out for ages now. ::)
Big question here, I do wanna buy it, but why so expensive?
Yeah, true, GBP13 plus P&P is a bit steep... But I want it! I don't remember if I have bought it before though :D
Hi all,
Just a little and last reminder to tell that only one and a half week remains before the end of the ordering session of Orion Prime ! Once April the 30th is passed, all non paid orders will be cancelled, and it won't be EVER possible to order the package release.
For the people interested : http://op.cpcscene.com
Targhan/Arkos.
Quote from: Targhan on 16:26, 20 April 10
Hi all,
Just a little and last reminder to tell that only one and a half week remains before the end of the ordering session of Orion Prime ! Once April the 30th is passed, all non paid orders will be cancelled, and it won't be EVER possible to order the package release.
For the people interested : http://op.cpcscene.com (http://op.cpcscene.com/)
Targhan/Arkos.
Hurry on guys, don't miss this chance! The developpers really deserve any kind of appeciation. No commercial project ever reached the level of OP!
If I wasn't getting married I'd get a box full of both versions...
Quote from: Gryzor on 08:34, 21 April 10
If I wasn't getting married I'd get a box full of both versions...
I'll miss out, as I don't get paid until the 1st of May... i'm gonna cry :'( can this date not be extended a bit???
Quote from: ukmarkh on 11:52, 21 April 10I'll miss out, as I don't get paid until the 1st of May... i'm gonna cry :'( can this date not be extended a bit???
Maybe you can buy a copy from one of those people who's ordering 2 copies.
Try contacting them, I'm sure they can show some compassion :)
Quote from: Gryzor on 12:42, 21 April 10
Try contacting them, I'm sure they can show some compassion :)
Yes, but you have to write the PM in proper french. That helps hopefully. Well, a bit more serious... Gryzor is right, just explain Targhan your situation, send him a contract writtin with your blood, that you will owe him your soul and one 3" disc in case you will not pay in may.
Ehhhhmmm... sorry, it's hard to be serious for a mad scientist working with a CPC evey day ;-)
... so now seriously: Do what Gryzor had said :-)
Finally managed to pay for it today... yipeeee
Good, now wait with the rest of us :)
Preordering ends tomorrow !
I am in 8)
Quote from: TFM/FS on 17:03, 21 April 10but you have to write the PM in proper french. That helps hopefully.
You know, that's an art so rarely fully mastered even by native speakers that they actually run national televised spelling bees :) while other peoples spend their prime time in star search for the likes of Paul Potts.
It's not just disk-mags (decades old from an age before computers were much help correcting them) that are full of "typos": in French e.g. misspelled mix-ups of infinitive and participle also abound in more than a few major print publications sold at newsstands.
Then again, "even" in English, Hollywood has its own running gag of police never getting (the letters of) "Homicide" right.
German in turn was "reformed" in such a way that even the quarter or so of people that had once grokked it at least approximately cannot now make much sense of its spelling anymore either.
So, in the words of Sharika: Don't bother (http://www.lyricsbay.com/dont_bother_lyrics-shakira.html)...;)
I'm not sure why my payment was refunded for Orion Prime, I paid before the deadline. My only choice now is a ROM. Does anyone know where I can download the English version. And could somebody photo copy the instructions for me? Pretty please, would like to feature this game in the book.
>I'm not sure why my payment was refunded for Orion Prime, I paid before the deadline. My only choice now is a ROM. Does anyone know where I can download the English version. And could somebody photo copy the instructions for me? Pretty please, would like to feature this game in the book.
Huh ? What are you talking about ? Your payment has been accepted, and your copy will very soon be sent (we had a little problem when producing the packaging, so we're a little late but don't worry !!). I always keep good contact with people ordering us a copy (and everyone else actually :). If we had had any problem with your order, you can be sure I'd have contacted you way before the deadline.
Don't worry ! If you have more questions, please PM me !
Targhan/Arkos.
So it seems you're getting a game AND your money back :D
Oh man can't wait for my copy and a calm weekend...
Is Orion Prime on the way to the customers? According to the website the copies are sent on 25th of May.
Yes, most are. We were a little late, we're sorry. The last packages will be sent soon.
Trg.Aks
Sweet Jesus... can't wait to play it. :P
You can wait till I've found my 6128... :D
COuldn't wait and today I took a peak on an emulator. Fantastic intro...
I got home yesterday and saw a parcel had been delivered. I carefully openend the packaging and saw Orion Prime in a DVD style case. Its ever-so-well presented, artwork looks good and the audio logs is a very nice touch. I have to say, so far its bloody amazing! I'm so glad I waited until I could play it on my real to life 6128.
Good work chaps, can't wait for your next game... all involved should go down in CPC history.
I also got mine yesterday and I got surprised as well with the overall quality of the product.
Congratulations to Arkos and Les Sucres en Morceaux for creating such good game!
(I have to say I really hate the primary pump mini-game, but everyting else is close to perfect ;) )
Got mine yesterday as well.
Thanks a lot for this polished product! :)
I received my copy on thursday. It has been a while since I had used my CPC 6128s and the diskdrive on both machines had problems - probably due to old drive belts. I don't want to play it on my 464 so I have to wait until I find time to fix my 6128s...
The packaging and documentation has a very professional look and feel to it.
My one year old son listen like he has never have done before when I put on the log CD.
Quality! :D
Maybe tomorrow? http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Changing_the_drive_belt
>the diskdrive on both machines had problems
All the disks were thoroughly tested with reliable drives, so I really hope you'll manage to get the game to work ! If not even after changing the drive belt, please PM me and we'll see what we can do.
Trg.Aks
I tried it on my 64kB 464 today, and I was able to "cat" the disc and run"Orion". Wasn't able to play or see much except the information about that the game needs 128 kB memory. As expected! :)
Thanks for your nice offer Thargan, I am 99% sure my 6128s need new drive belts and that will fix the problem.
Right then! I've spent more than my allowable hours playing this game, the wife complained i'm not pulling my weight around the house. The game is bloody addictive, but I need to stop playing now. My wife and kids have finally worked out that 'just another 5 mins' is actually code for 'piss off and leave me alone'. Yep, it's beyond a joke now, my family and life is starting to suffer. I'll probably never be able to play it again after the argument we had.
I have received my copies today. :)
It surely looks like we're about to go on a very interesting journey in a universe much like the one in Blade Runner. Very nice touch with the included stuff. (Won't mention what, so I don't spoil it for anyone).
I haven't started anything yet though, will wait for my girlfriend to join me. We will play it together. :)
(She's the brain when it comes to adventure games).
I hope Bryce will have my Digiblaster ready soon, so I can enjoy that digitized music in great quality (if the game supports Digiblaster output)...
Currently can't make up my mind whether to move my CPC to the living room for the next weeks, and hook it up to the big TV, or play the game using my 14" CRT monitor.... :)
The game doesn't support Digiblaster. It doesn't need it :). And I don't code for chipset that no one is using... 18khz 4 bits is enough anyway :).
On the minicd, there's a folder named PICTURES that's empty. Is that supposed to be empty?
I didn't think it was too much trouble making it possible for the user to select output method.
@mr_lou: that's a great idea. Since my girlfriend finished all the online point-and-click adventures she could find, I'll propose OP next!
...unless she starts replaying Phantasmagoria first...
Quote from: Gryzor on 07:49, 08 June 10
@mr_lou: that's a great idea. Since my girlfriend finished all the online point-and-click adventures she could find, I'll propose OP next!
...unless she starts replaying Phantasmagoria first...
If she hasn't played it already, The CPC Adventure is a fine point and click game. Outside the CPC tell her to try Full Throttle, Sam and Max and Blade Runner.
>On the minicd, there's a folder named PICTURES that's empty. Is that supposed to be empty?
Yes, it is empty. It's a folder created by default, I didn't ask for it to be created.
>I didn't think it was too much trouble making it possible for the user to select output method.
Come on... I worked my ass off to get a 18,3 Khz music, a quality that no one even thought was possible with three channels... Don't ask me to do more than that just because you suddenly discovered an almost-never-used card some fifteen years after its creation...
Trg.Aks
Quote from: Targhan on 20:10, 08 June 10
>I didn't think it was too much trouble making it possible for the user to select output method.
Come on... I worked my ass off to get a 18,3 Khz music, a quality that no one even thought was possible with three channels... Don't ask me to do more than that just because you suddenly discovered an almost-never-used card some fifteen years after its creation...
With all due respect, you need to work on your perception of things.
I never asked you to do anything. I merely explained that, with my limited knowledge, I didn't think it was a big job to include Digiblaster output. I'm not saying what you did isn't great, but I have no clue how many hz is possible and not possible, so I wouldn't know if 18,3 Khz music is great or not. I do know however that a Digiblaster sound-output sounds better than what's possible with digitized music on AY-output, even though it's 18,3 Khz. I'm still not saying that what you did isn't great here.
Try to understand that I'm not following the scene as such, and I wouldn't know what's been done and what's not been done. The name Arkos however pops up a lot, so I just assumed that this would probably be one of those groups that would use such stuff.
Could you please try to remember that I am in no way complaining or mocking you with my posts. I would appreciate if you also didn't mock me. Thanks.
>Could you please try to remember that I am in no way complaining or mocking you with my posts. I would appreciate if you also didn't mock me. Thanks.
I don't mock or insult you in any kind of way. Please note how I always answered your previous post about digidrums and stuff, because I think it's important to spread knowledge, and I always help people when they ask questions.
However, we present you a five years work game, with more innovations in one introduction that in all professional games combined, so please forgive me if your remark sounded a little irritative.
Play the game, enjoy it for what it is, have fun. If you're interested in doing better than us, I'd be delighted to give some clues on how to do it.
Quote from: Targhan on 20:54, 08 June 10
However, we present you a five years work game, with more innovations in one introduction that in all professional games combined, so please forgive me if your remark sounded a little irritative.
There'll always be people asking questions or making comments that seems stupid to the developers, no matter how long time was spent developing the game.
Such things shouldn't annoy you, even if they are in fact complains about certain lacks. But it's apparent that they do. It's easily read between the lines, when you make suggestions that I should just code my own game, or my own player-routine etc, and do better than you. That makes the replies seem slightly arrogant, and looks like they're signed with "P.S.: You're stupid" - which I indeed am regarding CPC coding and such, but I can't be good at everything, nor do I intend to be.
Seeing as my questions usually seem to annoy you a bit (judging from comments in the replies), I'm just letting you know that I merely belong in that group that just asks questions because I don't know anything, and therefor am searching for knowledge. These questions may seem stupid to you because the answer is so obvious to you, being the hardcore geek you are. (That is meant as a compliment in case you're in doubt).
But I don't ask questions or make comments because I'm unhappy with anything, or to complain, or to say "Dude you suck because you didn't do this". I don't ask stupid questions or make stupid comments to annoy you.
The only thing about Orion Prime that's been a bit of a let down so far, is the duct-tape used to seal the hole of a 1.44mb disk to become a 720kb disk. That part kinda sticks out from everything else that's otherwise very nicely done. But I don't make a thread or post to complain about things I think could have been done better. I leave that part to other people. I'm more interested in other things, and I can easily enjoy a production for what it is.
Orion Prime is a CPC masterpiece, which I believe I've said several times, and which is also why I supported your work by buying two copies of the game.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
I think what we have here is a classic example of developer/user interaction. Some people work their asses off for years and produce something new, exciting and big, and there'll always be someone who will ask for that little bit of extra juice, always with good intentions. And the devs get pissed off.
I understand both sides. Lou, I know what you mean and how you said what you said, but try to look at it from his side. I know *my* reaction would be "oh, is he kidding us now, asking for this or that instead of recognising all the hard work we've put into it?". And, what's more, adding the feature you requested is a bit too much IMO. So it sounds like you're nitpicking through the guys' work. I know you do it in good faith, but us end-users should stop asking for stuff at some point...
Btw, my girlfriend is a seasoned adventure-player this side of 1995 :)
Quote from: Gryzor on 08:49, 09 June 10
adding the feature you requested is a bit too much IMO.
I have never ever requested anything.
That is my whole point.
And I
would never ever request additions like that.
As I said, I just
assumed that Digiblaster output was probably an option, since there was digitized music. That's it! I was never requesting it, and I'm not requesting it now, and I will not request it later. I merely thought it was possible.
Exactly why it is interpreted as if I'm asking it to
become possible, I don't know. Obviously I must be phrasing it wrongly. But I generally don't ask for additional features for finished projects, because I do agree with you that it would be nitpicking, and I generally don't like when people do that.
But this here is what I said: "I hope Bryce will have my Digiblaster ready soon, so I can enjoy that digitized music in great quality (if the game supports Digiblaster output)..."
To this Targhan replied: "The game doesn't support Digiblaster. It doesn't need it (http://cpcwiki.eu/forum/Smileys/akyhne/smiley.gif). And I don't code for chipset that no one is using... 18khz 4 bits is enough anyway (http://cpcwiki.eu/forum/Smileys/akyhne/smiley.gif)."
I replied: "I didn't think it was too much trouble making it possible for the user to select output method.", and this is probably where it went wrong then. I was just trying to explain why I assumed it was possible, but I guess it was interpreted like "Make it possible now" instead. But I never meant it like that.
Are we clear on things now?
For me it *is* clear :) But let's drop the issue, shall we? The more we talk about it the worse it gets... :)
But I have a request for Gryzor. Can you come over to my house and fix my 6128s. I need to play this excellent game soon! :D BTW, I live in Oslo Norway :P
I think you're overreacting a bit, but I did too, and I'm sorry for this.
Please, do not think I underestimate you or anyone that doesn't have extensive CPC knownledge, that's absolutely not true... I love your songs by the way.
I got a little irritated by your comment, because out of context it sounded like you were complaining, but you were not.
Now if you must know why I didn't include Digiblaster support :
- I don't own one, so I couldn't test the result.
- I believe in "Raw CPC power", so I'm not the one that will code something for a specific extension (unless it eases the development, like the CPCBooster).
- Digiblaster isn't well known. I generally don't code for a few people...
- Digiblaster allows 8 bits samples, which are not as packable as well as the lesser quality samples that I use, as the output is 4 bits only (an important argument, especially with such big samples).
- Selecting the digiblaster would have resulted in a menu or a keyboard combinaison, I wasn't fond of it.
For all these reasons, I didn't want to include any digiblaster support in OP... Pretty understandable, I think.
Trg.Aks
Yes, those are fine arguments.
I assumed it was 8-bit samples, and that the music was made with some kind of tracker like Digitracker.
Making a choice to use 4-bit samples, and preferring "raw" cpc power, is perfectly acceptable, and of course then it wouldn't make any sense at all to add Digiblaster output.
Sorry if I overreacted. I just hate when people have the wrong impression, so when it happens I have to try to correct it.
I don't think you underestimate people that doesn't have extensive CPC knowledge. I think you underestimate your own knowledge sometimes, and doing that can result in difficulties understanding why someone else doesn't get it. ;) (Not that uncommon a scenario really).
Anyway, I'm glad it's cleared up. Let's move along.
>and that the music was made with some kind of tracker like Digitracker.
Actually, it was composed with ModPlug tracker on PC :).
Quote from: Targhan on 19:24, 09 June 10
Actually, it was composed with ModPlug tracker on PC :).
Ooh! So, can you release the mods?
Quote from: Targhan on 19:17, 07 June 10
The game doesn't support Digiblaster. It doesn't need it :) . And I don't code for chipset that no one is using... 18khz 4 bits is enough anyway :) .
Well, some people indeed use the Digiblaster, because it's cheap and genious. I'm one of them ;-) But OP must not support _everything_ ever made for the CPC.
>Ooh! So, can you release the mods?
I don't think so, because they really sound better on CPC :). But I shall release an Orion Prime soundtrack (as MP3) a bit after the internet release (which will happen on June, 30th).
That's great news!
And much appreciated too.
Merci Beaucoup!
Good enough :) I'll wait!
Hi all,
Orion Prime, the greatest adventure game on CPC (yeah !) is now available freely on the net, in 3" and 3,5" versions, and in French, English and Spanish.
You can download the archive here :
http://www.orion.cpcscene.com/
Enjoy,
Targhan/Arkos.
Good for you guys... can you give some numbers? How many copies were sold?
>can you give some numbers? How many copies were sold?
Millions !!! :)
Seriously though, combining the two ordering sessions :
175 copies sold in total, including 121 (FR), 33 (EN), and 21 (SP).
Trg.Aks
Only 33 English copies? That's *weird*... Also, given the strength of the spanish scene I'd expect it to be second to France! How many more disks do you have?
England beat Spain... woo-hoo
Then it's obvious a football wasn't involved :D
Bryce.
>How many more disks do you have?
0. We made pre ordering so that we would know exactly how many copies to produce.
Trg.Aks
Quote from: Bryce on 17:17, 30 June 10
Then it's obvious a football wasn't involved :D
Bryce.
Sickening blow to the groin area... :'(
Quote from: Targhan on 12:25, 30 June 10
>can you give some numbers? How many copies were sold?
Millions !!! :)
Seriously though, combining the two ordering sessions :
175 copies sold in total, including 121 (FR), 33 (EN), and 21 (SP).
Trg.Aks
Not bad for a computer many considered
near dead 20 years ago
and stone dead 15 years ago
I am surprised if Amigagames sell more
This is seriously good news for the CPC... long may it continue. I reckon it won't be long before someone releases a game on the CPC that nobody thought possible, and sales reach a thousand or more.
Sorry Mark, nothing personal, I just couldn't resist it :)
Bryce.
Quote from: Targhan on 12:25, 30 June 10
>can you give some numbers? How many copies were sold?
Millions !!! :)
Seriously though, combining the two ordering sessions :
175 copies sold in total, including 121 (FR), 33 (EN), and 21 (SP).
Trg.Aks
Ok, great! Now I will learn French again! Will release everything in French! Anything else suXXX!
What a shame for the rest of the world!
I was considering buying the french and spanish versions as well (I got both the english 3/3.5" ones), but no money, no honey...
Keep us posted for the number of downloads, too :)
Quote from: TFM/FS on 05:47, 01 July 10
Ok, great! Now I will learn French again! Will release everything in French! Anything else suXXX!
What a shame for the rest of the world!
It's probably because the game was more of an adventure... People in the UK maybe prefer the arcade stuff. But 33 sales for the UK still adds up, so don't alienate yourself. Has the programmer considered converting it across to the Speccy and C64... might end up selling shed loads. The extra cash could help finance other CPC projects?
Quote from: ukmarkh on 12:30, 01 July 10
It's probably because the game was more of an adventure... People in the UK maybe prefer the arcade stuff.
I'm also more of an arcade gamer. I've never had the brains to figure out adventure games, and I couldn't complete Monkey Island (even today) if my life depended on it. I can also say, that Dead on Time is much more interesting to me than Orion Prime.
But Orion Prime is no ordinary adventure game in my opinion. It's a CPC adventure game! And the most impressive one by far. It
must be played. :) hehe
I admit, I haven't played it a whole lot yet, but I'm saving it for the right moment. Then I'll appreciate it more.
Quote from: ukmarkh on 12:30, 01 July 10
... But 33 sales for the UK still adds up, ....
Well, only 32 because I ordered the english box ;-) But honestly I think that this 32 boxes have been spread over the world to all non-french & non-spanish speaking countries. I know at least some other germans who got the english box, DeveloppmentMarkus and Octoate for example...
How much english boxes did really go to the UK?
And yes, the number of downloads would be of great interrest!
Quote from: ukmarkh on 12:30, 01 July 10Has the programmer considered converting it across to the Speccy and C64...
blasphemy :police:
Everything in this game has been done especially for the CPC.
QuoteOk, great! Now I will learn French again! Will release everything in French! Anything else suXXX!
Perhaps because in France, we search better than games co-produced ion Speccy and MSX, as quite a good portion of spanish recent production is, As I saw iat Madrid.
Not bad yet, as long as the game runs well on CPC and has specificly designed graphics.
QuotePeople in the UK maybe prefer the arcade stuff. But 33 sales for the UK still adds up, so don't alienate yourself. Has the programmer considered converting it across to the Speccy and C64... might end up selling shed loads. The extra cash could help finance other CPC projects?
I recognize the "perfide Albyon" who spammed us with speccy porks... erh... ports.
Lol, not only thx god...
Actually, Orion Prime is so heavily graphic oriented and Supersly so CPC maniac that...I'm actually not sure the game would be that great on C64 or Speccy, or even on Atari 8 bit...
The main argument is that supersly put a heavy Graphical presence, and worked so hard on CPC 3*3 palette that...well... and with no attribute limitation too...
Only MSXs (not 1 perhaps 2 and certaily 2+ and turbo R) can pretend to this.
Enterprise or sam coupé also perhaps....
Or Thomson MO6/TO8 or Amstrad PLUS (of course).
Concerning the "Scene".
French scene was more into Demo and crack/cracktros...at the time...
But we start at last to produce games...
Germany has never be that into games. yet great in Hardwares/OS.
Notable Exception being bollaware... but it was in the late 90's early 2000's...
Briton...well, you are a lot into CPC preservation, but don't produce a lot of games Am I right ?
Yet the fact is, a net-based co-production is quite possible and by all our powers combined...er... WTF ?
Sorry, drank some beers...and listening to Colour lines musics.... :D
So more seriously, C64 and Speccy can't do a OrionPrime as on CPC.
Graphics are too good as a CPC based game.
It's as if "Bard's Tale" or "Pirates!" had a CPC version first, with a great CPC specialized Graphist...
And as such, the CPC scene has to be more brilliant than speccy or Commodork scene...
Or even 16 bit...
As the Game producing company were... Amstrad version being the first (Zombi, Ubi Soft...) or the best...Captain blood...Sqweek...er...Xyphoes ? lol)
But also Gryzor or Sorcery (from british companies, not ?) or Commando or Barbarian... (well, draw actually)
France has actually produced another Captain Blood 2009 on CPC, even badasser than the original Captain Blood... :P on CPC/8 bit... Orion Prime was its name...
And unless you use a CPC, a Thomson (yet sucks at sounds...[good part of even only OrionPrime's intro... :-[ ]and shitty 1mghz... lol...) or a MSX... (but Japanese can't do european games well... can they ? We have mostly MSX1 in europa... perhaps MSX2... but no real market...) no mass-market 8 bit is really a match....
Until C128 perhaps...er...not him...well more likely C-16 actually... (bad on animation but good on graphics) or Russian "overclocked video speccies"...(but hey, speccy is graphically flawned from the start...we know it...)
Of course, finding a proper Japanese translator and porting the game on MSX 2+ / turboR...may work...for the export sales... ::)
But yeah, on graphic adventures/reflexion (RPG?) games with no "sprites" (not heavy user of those actually) nor Scrolls...CPC6128 is still damn better. 8)
Well, Sam coupé scene or Enterprise 128 scene may try to get it on their machines ?
Especially the Enterprise folks who use to port CPC softs...directly...
The good part is that a project as Color Lines managed to put together peoples from 3 Amstrad countries...perhaps more...
We can achieve even better.
Er... Panother concern... perhaps some american do own a CPC in their collection ? are there any ? they should be given an edition to show of in museum... :)
I got two of the English copies, as mentioned. In Greece.
and I have one english copy in Norway
And Deepfb 3 copies, one on each language.
Quote from: Targhan on 12:25, 30 June 10175 copies sold in total, including 121 (FR), 33 (EN), and 21 (SP).
Does this include all of the copies that were sent to everyone who was involved in bringing the game to fruition (such as myself)?
Quote from: ukmarkh on 22:25, 30 June 10I reckon it won't be long before someone releases a game on the CPC that nobody thought possible, and sales reach a thousand or more.
I thought
Orion Prime is exactly that game?! ;) I can't see anyone releasing a better game (in the sense of stretching the CPC's capabilities to its limits) in the near future.
Quote from: Nich on 20:33, 02 July 10
I thought Orion Prime is exactly that game?! ;) I can't see anyone releasing a better game (in the sense of stretching the CPC's capabilities to its limits) in the near future.
Orion Prime lives IMHO the most from the Graphics, the huge world it provides, the endless number of things that must be done, things like the minigames and also the great songs, and not so much "in the sense of stretching the CPC's capabilities to its limits". It's an adventure not an action or arcade game. That should be kept in mind. And I love it like it is. But this does not mean that in other genres nobody can "stretching the CPC's capabilities to its limits" a bit more.
>Does this include all of the copies that were sent to everyone who was involved in bringing the game to fruition (such as myself)?
It does include all the copies *produced*. Some were sent to the same people, who may use only one copy and put the others on a shelf as trophies :).
Doesn't matter! ;D Looks like 99% of all CPC owners bought the boxed OP. I wouldn't wonder if people bought OP first and then bought a CPC (maybe after years again).
And if you see, how much you get for that small amount of money - it's amazing!
Quote from: TFM/FS on 20:39, 02 July 10
Orion Prime lives IMHO the most from the Graphics, the huge world it provides, the endless number of things that must be done, things like the minigames and also the great songs, and not so much "in the sense of stretching the CPC's capabilities to its limits". It's an adventure not an action or arcade game. That should be kept in mind. And I love it like it is. But this does not mean that in other genres nobody can "stretching the CPC's capabilities to its limits" a bit more.
I agree. While I long for a new arcade-type game of the same magnitude, OP is just fantastic. I'd better withhold opinion till I play it to the end, but I think it is the pinnacle of the CPC megagames (there is a thread about that I think?)...
I didn't mean this wasn't a fine adventure, just saying it'll probably inspire people to go on and go one better, regardless of the genre. I foresee a shoot-em-up or plat-former to set the standard in the same way Orion Prime has done for its genre.
The future looks bright, the future is 16 colour
Hey guys ... I ordered and received the game some weeks ago now so apologies for remaining silent...
Well this is because I was waiting for a free evening where I could be left alone, turn the lights off, set the mood and give myself a few hours to play it through properly.
What can I say except...
This is F***ING AMAZING!!!!
I absolutely love it, and well n truly addicted to it! I've never been much of an 'adventure game' fan, the most I ever got was playing "The Famous Five" adventure on an Amstrad Action cover tape, but this isn't at all a standard text adventure game... this is much more like B.A.T. which I loved, but didn't really bother progressing far... maybe because I wasn't sure where and what I was doing.. so this is testament to what an excellently designed game Orion Prime is because the learning curve is spot on and just continues to draw you in further and further. Incredibly well paced so ... what strikes me more than the excellent graphics, music and presentation (probably the best in any CPC game) is the whole game design aspect. Game design as a concept and process is still in these modern times often overlooked, and here in 2010 we have a CPC game that exemplifies what game design should be like.
Saying that, I'm not sure 'how far' I am into the game ... the timer says 2 hours + and I've just completed the mini game sections for turning on the primary pump. Would you say I'm at the half way point or do I have much much further to go?! I've gotten so into the game that for the first time I've sat down with pen and paper and drawn out maps and notes of where everything is and all that! Normally I would never have the patience or the attention span to do this!
Talking of mini games, I don't want to give away any spoilers but there's so many extras such as the 'easter egg' (ha! see the new Dan Dare topic ... perhaps the Wiki could do with a section for these!) in the bar room!! Amazing!! I just love these little touches.
I wish I go back and revise that Top 20 Amstrad games vid I did on YouTube a few months back, because this game should surely belong in there.
Any criticisms?
I have a minor one, but going into detail might give away spoilers, so I'll save that for a later time when people have really played it through.
Not found any bugs so far at all, only occasionally it asks me to insert the same disc side that's already in there which I can live with for the super fast loader! :D
10/10
QuoteWould you say I'm at the half way point or do I have much much further to go?!
something like much much much much further to go :)
I guess we're expecting a video soon :)
Someone I spoke with recently thought Orion Prime was a bit boring... can't mention names for obvious reasons.
We are not fanatic fanboys , everyone can have an opinion about it , good or bad...
Hey, when I came here just now this topic had *99* replies and *1999* views :D :D :D
So one negative critique can't be all that bad, plus adventures do have a specialised audience...
Quote from: ukmarkh on 15:24, 14 July 10
Someone I spoke with recently thought Orion Prime was a bit boring... can't mention names for obvious reasons.
I would understand why, it's not a shoot-em-up you can pick up and play easily, although it is staged very well for newcomers to the genre to get into fairly quickly.
On saying that though if I hadn't sat with pen and paper, made a map and notes of where everything is I probably would have got quite frustrated and lost. I am currently at a point where I've been to every room I can get to and seemingly picked up everything possible and now just trying anything and everything on random things. I didn't play as much today as for a good half an hour I got no where, got pissed off and went to bed :P
Quote from: Gryzor on 07:47, 14 July 10
I guess we're expecting a video soon :)
Yup!
I think I'll do a special 'live' vid showing the packaging (which is exceptional) and it running on a real CPC.
When I've completed it depending on how long the game is (Grim : OMG! haha!) I'll probably do a long play ... but as people are still playing through it I may leave that for a while so as not to spoil anything.
Has anyone completed it yet?
As an adventure game, you like or not...
But concerning realisation, it"s obviously up the mountain.
The debate is often like : just can't wait an ation game with the same level of details...
Well...
Action game engine is obviously heavier to get.
Perhaps an action game with short levels and a lot of re-loading, if you want it to run at a grap^hically heavy pace with "only" 128K RAM...
Or else, the lot of loading may kill it too.
Was thinking : a "Moonstone" like game may be suitable...
No scrollings, fun, multiplayer, Graphically heavy... and not that much complicated than a Barbarian or Golden Axe game in action phases...
I'm thinking about it.
But a 128k Intro is just so fine and great.