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Title: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 06:10, 22 April 24
The authors of the  " Paket Engine "  have already prepared the first game that will use this engine.
Releasing the 1st of a 3 chapters adventure , First on 27 April at Retropolis Event.

Reminder link : https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/games/paket-engine-demo-(-amstrad-cpc-)/



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Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 17:08, 27 April 24



https://www.paketesoft.com/es/thekey
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Jean-Marie on 18:26, 27 April 24
The download link is :
Spoiler: ShowHide

removed!!

Inglès traduccion cuando ?  ;D
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 18:30, 27 April 24

Please remove download link ... People have to complete puzzle
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Jean-Marie on 18:33, 27 April 24
Okay! 
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Maniac on 19:33, 27 April 24
This looks amazing! Anyone know if there's going to be an English translation?
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: sigh on 20:02, 27 April 24
Well done to the team! Looks wonderful.
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 21:05, 27 April 24
Quote from: Maniac on 19:33, 27 April 24This looks amazing! Anyone know if there's going to be an English translation?
Yes , english coming soon and french later
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Gryzor on 04:19, 28 April 24
Looks beautiful, really, eagerly awaiting the English version!
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Mr. DVG on 06:16, 28 April 24
I didn't understand the puzzle (I'm completely rubbish at this type of game), but from the video I can tell that the game is really fantastic! 

I solved their first mini-adventure a few years ago with great taste and I would also be available to carry out a translation into Italian if I had the texts available (and if the programmers are interested in this further option).
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: ||C|-|E|| on 07:44, 30 April 24
It looks really amazing, I have been itching for something like this in the CPC.
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 12:22, 30 April 24
how it was made


Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: GUNHED on 14:59, 30 April 24
If you guys need a translation into German too, just let me know. I did Orion Prime before.
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: cwpab on 15:53, 30 April 24
It would be nice for them to release the PAKET engine for free at some point.
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Targhan on 09:51, 01 May 24
Looks great, looking forward to playing it in english (or french!). But where is the spanish download link?
(... oh nevermind, the download link is related to the puzzle on the website.)
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Targhan on 10:00, 01 May 24
Mmmh, the puzzle is pretty simple and I get a logical answer, but the subdomain doesn't seem to be working. Is it just me?
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: HAL6128 on 10:39, 01 May 24
It works for me... https://www.paketesoft.com/solution or https://www.paketesoft.com/es/solution
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: eto on 11:50, 01 May 24
Quote from: Targhan on 10:00, 01 May 24Mmmh, the puzzle is pretty simple and I get a logical answer, but the subdomain doesn't seem to be working. Is it just me?
Yeah, I struggled there too. However the diagram is just misleading. It looks like you need to change the subdomain but all you need to do is to replace the path after the server address.
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Targhan on 23:03, 01 May 24
@HAL6128 Both URLs give 404...
@eto Ah yeah, it's not the subdomain, it's an additional part in the path, thanks.
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: GUNHED on 16:25, 02 May 24
Well, just add a ZIP here...  :)
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: XeNoMoRPH on 15:36, 03 May 24
English versión out !!!

https://Twitter.com/jsureda/status/1786118066004271440?t=ennhjhIYAsbGN4lrlz31xQ
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: dodogildo on 16:15, 03 May 24
Amazing work!
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: cwpab on 16:17, 03 May 24
And Italian, French and German versions will follow very soon, according to Jordi (on the following message).

He says it's very easy to edit thanks to the PAKET engine... That engine needs to go public ASAP (or at least they should do like Carmack and release it when they create the PAKET 2.0 one).  ;D
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Nich on 17:45, 03 May 24
Quote from: GUNHED on 16:25, 02 May 24Well, just add a ZIP here...  :)

Did you not read XeNoMoRPH's earlier post (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/games/the-key-a-a-full-point-and-click-game-for-cpc/msg239066/#msg239066) first?
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: genesis8 on 07:45, 04 May 24
Quote from: Nich on 17:45, 03 May 24
Quote from: GUNHED on 16:25, 02 May 24Well, just add a ZIP here...  :)

Did you not read XeNoMoRPH's earlier post (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/games/the-key-a-a-full-point-and-click-game-for-cpc/msg239066/#msg239066) first?
The riddle is easy, they rewrote it so it's easier now, for example I was typing the word at the wrong place, and in reverse order...

It's worth the effort to play the game.
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Gryzor on 09:16, 04 May 24
https://twitter.com/jsureda/status/1786118066004271440

("correct" tweet format for embedding)
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: St-BeidE(DE/GB) on 10:14, 04 May 24
Funny puzzle !
Well done  :D
Thank you very much for your effort.

Steven
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Targhan on 19:39, 04 May 24
I started playing it, it seems rather interesting but... come on, no save game on disk, only on tape?!
Once again a game that forces us to play on emulator and not on a real machine :(.
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: trocoloco on 20:00, 04 May 24
Quote from: Targhan on 19:39, 04 May 24I started playing it, it seems rather interesting but... come on, no save game on disk, only on tape?!
Once again a game that forces us to play on emulator and not on a real machine :(.
what they said at Retropolis 2024 is that this is due to no memory left to implement the disc saving game routine
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Targhan on 20:49, 04 May 24
Come on, this is 2024... At least allow 128k users to use that, or generate a password or something... My problem is that this once again dismisses players that want to play it on the real machine.
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: dodogildo on 21:33, 04 May 24
Quote from: Targhan on 20:49, 04 May 24Come on, this is 2024... At least allow 128k users to use that, or generate a password or something... My problem is that this once again dismisses players that want to play it on the real machine.
I totally agree.
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: ldaneels on 05:24, 05 May 24
The game is about half an hour long on the first playthrough and 5 minutes when you know what you're doing. A save function is not all that necessary.
Otherwise, there is the Mirage Imager, which I believe would let you save your state on a real CPC...
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Mr. DVG on 05:45, 05 May 24
The solution of the English version on my YouTube channel... not to be seen for those who don't want spoilers! ;) 

Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Targhan on 09:56, 05 May 24
Quote from: ldaneels on 05:24, 05 May 24The game is about half an hour long on the first playthrough and 5 minutes when you know what you're doing. A save function is not all that necessary

Well, I didn't know that and don't want to know that before starting the game :). But on TwittX, the author told me the save option on disc was on its way, which is great. Since they've made a generic engine, I think it's a required option for the forthcoming games!
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: GUNHED on 15:15, 05 May 24
Quote from: Nich on 17:45, 03 May 24
Quote from: GUNHED on 16:25, 02 May 24Well, just add a ZIP here...  :)

Did you not read XeNoMoRPH's earlier post (https://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/games/the-key-a-a-full-point-and-click-game-for-cpc/msg239066/#msg239066) first?
Of course I did. But...
Didn't you see that in doesn't work? 
It's still error 404!
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: GUNHED on 15:23, 05 May 24
Quote from: HAL6128 on 10:39, 01 May 24It works for me... https://www.paketesoft.com/solution or https://www.paketesoft.com/es/solution
None of them works. All error 404.
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: St-BeidE(DE/GB) on 15:25, 05 May 24
My first thoughts where the same.
I just have no tapedeck at all.
On the other hand, it forces me to build
an arduino solution...
Not sooo bad at least.

Stefan
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: St-BeidE(DE/GB) on 15:27, 05 May 24
Quote from: GUNHED on 15:23, 05 May 24
Quote from: HAL6128 on 10:39, 01 May 24It works for me... https://www.paketesoft.com/solution or https://www.paketesoft.com/es/solution
None of them works. All error 404.
Err... yes. You may replace the word solution with the result of the puzzle.
Trust me, it did work for me.

Steven
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: dodogildo on 16:04, 05 May 24
Quote from: ldaneels on 05:24, 05 May 24The game is about half an hour long on the first playthrough and 5 minutes when you know what you're doing. A save function is not all that necessary.
That makes sense. Cheers
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Prodatron on 22:04, 05 May 24
Quote from: GUNHED on 15:23, 05 May 24None of them works. All error 404.
Seems, that for some people it's too hard to understand the puzzle... :D
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: SerErris on 12:52, 06 May 24
And if you never have seen the puzzle, it is ... https://www.paketesoft.com/es/the-key-eng-version

You need to find the key in the puzzle ...
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Gryzor on 13:39, 06 May 24
I mean I'm not what I used to be back in the day when it comes to adventures, but I hardly consider this a puzzle...
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: St-BeidE(DE/GB) on 21:21, 06 May 24
Quote from: St-BeidE(DE/GB) on 15:25, 05 May 24My first thoughts where the same.
I just have no tapedeck at all.
On the other hand, it forces me to build
an arduino solution...
Not sooo bad at least.

Stefan
Errr... damn.
I just recognized, there is no Arduino based solution
of a "tape recorder" that is able to "record".
Seems, it's only PLAY file capable ?

Steven
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: GUNHED on 19:43, 07 May 24
Quote from: Prodatron on 22:04, 05 May 24
Quote from: GUNHED on 15:23, 05 May 24None of them works. All error 404.
Seems, that for some people it's too hard to understand the puzzle... :D
Yes, but never mind. It worked for me as soon as I used another PC instead my old 2009 Laptop. No wonder that you couldn't solve it using symbos.  ;)
Just PM me and I'll tell you how to get to the solution.  :)
One hint right here: it got something to do with the directions. And the compass works as key. :)
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: The Electric Monk on 16:54, 08 May 24
Just had a chance for a playthrough, and I'm absolutely blown away! Major kudos to the programmers for providing an English version, or I would probably never have any incentive to play the game. (BTW, I found one instance where Spanish text remains - when you try using keys on invalid objects, the status message is not translated)

Very much looking forward to more of this. Very very well done!
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: vasilisk on 18:49, 08 May 24
With careful observation it is easy to solve...  :D
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: The Electric Monk on 09:36, 09 May 24
Quote from: vasilisk on 18:49, 08 May 24With careful observation it is easy to solve...  :D

I love that the final puzzle has more than one clue on how to solve it. (You can get it via the name or via the numbers)
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: vasilisk on 09:44, 09 May 24
Quote from: The Electric Monk on 09:36, 09 May 24
Quote from: vasilisk on 18:49, 08 May 24With careful observation it is easy to solve...  :D

I love that the final puzzle has more than one clue on how to solve it. (You can get it via the name or via the numbers)

I was talking about the puzzle to download the game. Haven't played it yet ;D
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: cwpab on 20:49, 09 May 24
I just watched part of a live interview to the PAKET team on the Juanje Juega Youtube channel.

The guys are very intelligent: the mansion is admitedly copied from Luigi's Mansion, they will be releasing parts 2 and 3, they don't want people to buy the game to never play it... And they plan to include a TDK casette with the physical edition, a reproduction of a real cassette the programmer found on a drawer with a CPC Basic game programmed by his 10yo brother in the 80s.

I'm a fan of "escape the room" Flash games, so I will play it at some point. I'm lately not a fan of 3rd person graphic adventures (you end up watching your character walk 90% of the time). I believe, just like Mario 64 destroyed video games with the forced analog stick and camera controls, what IBM did with King's Quest (forcing them to add "cool animations") in a way not destroyed, but it certainly complicated a genre that was having lots of problems before that.

So instead of fixing the "moon logic" stuff, graphic adventures (not the ones who made the first 2 Monkey Islands and Indiana Jones, or Space Quest 1, 4 and 5, and I also like Coktel Vision's 1st person games except for a couple of crazy puzzles) went full "animations" mode with the 3rd person view. And only in a few years, voice acting and FMV actually destroyed the genre by increasing the budgets exponentially.

The logical, my friends, progression of text adventures was something like Myst (but not so confusing), not King's Quest. And 3rd person action games are usually better in 3D because of Miyamoto (who admitted they had to make jumps much easier in Mario 64 due to the control problems... seriously, what's the fun of going in any direction/speed if you can't really control it and you lose all the digital precision?).

Back to The Key, I guess it will win the Best of 2024 award or the Sugars or whatever... There are still 8 more months, but I don't think any worthy rival will appear. 
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: Nadori on 07:56, 13 May 24
The game looks wonderful.
I've started playing it on tape on real hardware but there's a problem: the loading of a saving game from tape doesn't work: I can save but when I try to load, the tape doesn't start after pressing PLAY and SPACE as requested. It's just me?
Title: Re: The Key, a A "full" point and click game for CPC
Post by: St-BeidE(DE/GB) on 14:27, 13 May 24

May you wait a couple of days? I have an 6128, but no tape or recorder at all. However,  I catched one on @bay, and already own the "adapter" cable needed...
I'll test save and load as soon as possible. 

Steven 
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