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Title: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: cwpab on 10:32, 28 November 23
Let's create one. What would be your takes?
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 11:20, 28 November 23
Orion Prime (2009). Not only is it exclusive but extremely limited. 175 physical copies produced, most of them in French and all sold out now. :) 
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: cwpab on 14:54, 28 November 23
I asked the mods for permission to edit the first message of the topic. I suggest we use this method to create the top 10: every mention of a game gets the game a vote. Of course, a single user can't mention a game twice!

Before I check some French and Spanish games, I will mention Sorcery and Roland in Space so we can at least have a list of 3 good games to start with (even if I hate Sorcery! And I had it as a kid). Also, I'd love to say "Baba's Palace", but it was released for Android.

Updated list:

(1) Orion Prime
(1) Sorcery
(1) Roland in Space*

* Roland in Space and Roland in Time, I believe they are unofficial ports of other games with other names for other system by the same devs, possibly the system was the BBC Micro.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Gryzor on 14:58, 28 November 23
I'll see if we can have a poll with open answers for this purpose. 
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Prodatron on 15:14, 28 November 23
- Xyphoes Fantasy
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: cwpab on 15:22, 28 November 23
Quote from: Gryzor on 14:58, 28 November 23I'll see if we can have a poll with open answers for this purpose.

Sounds good! But just to be clear, do you mean each user can write new answers? Never saw a poll like that, would be cool. (Otherwise we would need a 25-50 game list of exclusives including some modern homebrews to add to the fixed answers.

Updated list:

(1) Orion Prime
(1) Sorcery
(1) Roland in Space*
(1) Xyphoes Fantasy

* Roland in Space and Roland in Time, I believe they are unofficial ports of other games with other names for other system by the same devs, possibly the system was the BBC Micro.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: ago on 15:27, 28 November 23
El tesoro perdido de Cuauhtemoc. Graphics, music, gameplay, it has everything. 10/10.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Gryzor on 16:15, 28 November 23
Quote from: cwpab on 15:22, 28 November 23
Quote from: Gryzor on 14:58, 28 November 23I'll see if we can have a poll with open answers for this purpose.

Sounds good! But just to be clear, do you mean each user can write new answers? Never saw a poll like that, would be cool. (Otherwise we would need a 25-50 game list of exclusives including some modern homebrews to add to the fixed answers.

Updated list:

(1) Orion Prime
(1) Sorcery
(1) Roland in Space*
(1) Xyphoes Fantasy

* Roland in Space and Roland in Time, I believe they are unofficial ports of other games with other names for other system by the same devs, possibly the system was the BBC Micro.
Facebook polls work like that, it's really handy, but FB is the only place I've seen it.

Unfortunately that is not an option here. What's more, I can't add a poll to this thread - had forgotten that you can only add a poll if you create a new POLL instead of a new POST... This should've been better thought out beforehand. If you want we can close the thread and post a new one with a poll.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: cwpab on 17:30, 28 November 23
Thanks, Gryzor! I guess we can continue counting the games manually for now. But it would be great if I could just edit the first message multiple times, is that an option?
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: eto on 18:29, 28 November 23
The list will probably mostly contain recent releases as there are very few exclusive games from the commercial era.

E.g. Sorcery is no exclusive.

Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: dodogildo on 18:41, 28 November 23
Quote from: eto on 18:29, 28 November 23there are very few exclusive games from the commercial era.

Kinda sad. Was the situation similar with other 8 bits? Or did Speccy and C64 have more commercial era exclusives?
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: asertus on 18:52, 28 November 23
Many winners of CPCRetrodev.., Operation Alexandra, Space Moves, Outlaws, The abduction of Oscar Z...
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: eto on 18:54, 28 November 23
Quote from: dodogildo on 18:41, 28 November 23Kinda sad. Was the situation similar with other 8 bits? Or did Speccy and C64 have more commercial era exclusives?
The CPC was very late to the market and its market share was probably not big enough to focus exclusively on the CPC for a game.

In the UK we had Speccy ports - and the few game that were developed on the CPC were developed with a conversion to the Spectrum in mind (Oliver twins games e.g.).

In France many games were developed on the CPC but were later converted to other systems. If not to other 8bits, then at least to the Atari ST and/or DOS.

Maybe in Spain there are a few exclusives...
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Gryzor on 18:55, 28 November 23
Quote from: cwpab on 17:30, 28 November 23Thanks, Gryzor! I guess we can continue counting the games manually for now. But it would be great if I could just edit the first message multiple times, is that an option?
I sent you a PM earlier, unfortunately not technically possible... 
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: cwpab on 19:55, 28 November 23
Updated list:

(1) Orion Prime
(1) Roland in Space*
(1) Xyphoes Fantasy
(1) Operation Alexandra
(1) Space Moves
(1) Outlaws
(1) The Abduction of Oscar Z

* Roland in Space and Roland in Time, I believe they are unofficial ports of other games with other names for other system by the same devs, possibly the system was the BBC Micro.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: VincentGR on 21:33, 28 November 23
Billy 2 was exclusive, right?
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: xesrjb on 21:38, 28 November 23
Showdown in Tombstone City (a Type in with a little mistske)
Karl Treasures Hunt

xesrjb 
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: angry on 22:28, 28 November 23
Ground Zero - is that exclusive?
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: mahlemiut on 22:36, 28 November 23
Sorcery isn't exclusive, but Sorcery+ was.
I think Fly Spy is exclusive?  Had fun playing that back in the day (once figured out).
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: HAL6128 on 22:54, 28 November 23
Defence
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: eto on 23:50, 28 November 23
Quote from: mahlemiut on 22:36, 28 November 23Sorcery isn't exclusive, but Sorcery+ was.
Sorcery+ was released for the Atari ST and Amiga. 
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: dodogildo on 08:48, 29 November 23
I think, before voting we need a list of exclusive CPC games. Maybe it would end up to a solid CPCWiki article eventually.

Here's a very timid starting point:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Amstrad_CPC-only_games
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: asertus on 10:28, 29 November 23
Well, lets add "El Tesoro Perdido de Cuauhtemoc"


Red Sunset,



Galactic Tomb:

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YYpC2fm-ooM/WuNXZRZPi2I/AAAAAAABUo0/wMpJQmkTLV8oM9ULX7EOrYL2Xg08ewA_ACLcBGAs/s1600/captura1.jpg)


Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: asertus on 10:30, 29 November 23
Of course, Alcon 2020... although you may say this is a "conversion" only of Slap fight.., but well done..
 
(https://abalore.com/images/screenshots/ss2.png)
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: GUNHED on 18:12, 29 November 23
Space Chicken II ;-)
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Nich on 22:11, 29 November 23
Six games I can think of that are CPC exclusives (as far as I know):

Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Xyphoe on 11:58, 30 November 23
Killer Cobra is an awesome Super Cobra (Scramble) clone and Amstrad exclusive!

https://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=159
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Xyphoe on 12:02, 30 November 23
Zap'T'Balls (and the 'The Advanced Edition) 

https://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=1333
https://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=1322

Burnin' Rubber ;D  If we're counting GX4000 games!
https://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=3564
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: andycadley on 12:24, 30 November 23
There's the interesting question of whether the "Roland" games count. Roland on the Ropes is obviously just Fred rebadged etc. Roland In Time is, as far as I know, a proper exclusive though.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 13:55, 30 November 23
Quote from: andycadley on 12:24, 30 November 23There's the interesting question of whether the "Roland" games count. Roland on the Ropes is obviously just Fred rebadged etc. Roland In Time is, as far as I know, a proper exclusive though.
Roland In The Caves is Bugaboo The Flea repackaged as well.

Roland Goes Digging has a big question mark over it. It's a Space Panic clone, but I'm unsure if it ever got released on any other format, even under a different name.
(nope! title was inspired by Dragon32's Cuthbert Goes Digging... every day's a school day huh?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ngG7YlPEY
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Jean-Marie on 14:12, 30 November 23
Quote from: andycadley on 12:24, 30 November 23There's the interesting question of whether the "Roland" games count. Roland on the Ropes is obviously just Fred rebadged etc. Roland In Time is, as far as I know, a proper exclusive though.
Recently, I discovered that Roland in Time was ported to the Tatung Einstein. The name was changed to Time Trap.
Check out at 3"30.
Alligata made 2 exclusive games, if I'm not mistaken. And good ones : Doppleganger and Meltdown.
Many early french games are exclusive too : Buggy 2, Rally 2, Sram, Orphée,  Billy la banlieue, Fusion 2, Pacific, ...
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: eto on 16:44, 30 November 23
The Top 10 will probably be "all exclusives" as there are so few - unless we count in the homebrew stuff after 2000. But then it will become a "best of homebrew" list, as most exlusives from 198x are rubbish compared to the new stuff.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: andycadley on 18:30, 30 November 23
We need to think of at least 10 good exclusives or Bridge It is going to have to go on the list...
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: norecess464 on 18:39, 30 November 23
Quote from: Xyphoe on 12:02, 30 November 23Burnin' Rubber ;D  If we're counting GX4000 games!
https://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=3564
Burnin' Rubber is not an exclusive, it also existed on the Commodore Amiga. ;)
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: VincentGR on 18:57, 30 November 23
They are both from Ocean, but look different.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: norecess464 on 19:14, 30 November 23
Same license, same company, but 2 different implementations yes!
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: dodogildo on 20:42, 30 November 23
1983 C64 Burnin' Rubber from Colosoftware  :P

(https://www.lemon64.com/assets/images/games/screens/burnin_rubber/burnin_rubber_02.png)
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: andycadley on 21:51, 30 November 23
Quote from: norecess464 on 19:14, 30 November 23Same license, same company, but 2 different implementations yes!
Totally different game, don't think that counts.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: mahlemiut on 22:28, 30 November 23
Quote from: dodogildo on 20:42, 30 November 231983 C64 Burnin' Rubber from Colosoftware  :P

(https://www.lemon64.com/assets/images/games/screens/burnin_rubber/burnin_rubber_02.png)
Looks like a port of the Data East arcade game (which was aka Bump 'n Jump)
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Axelay on 12:02, 01 December 23
I think if you look at the time before licensed multiformat titles became the norm there's perhaps quite a few, or at least a lot more than 10, as well as a few after those big publishers moved on.

Just thinking about some early games I played, read about or became aware of later, and couldn't see anything obvious about having versions on other platforms in some quick searches, I think these might be possibilities:





Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 12:38, 01 December 23
Regret to inform that Fruity Frank isn't an Amstrad exclusive. The MSX got it as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6kDNuVSwg
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: eto on 18:22, 01 December 23
Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 12:38, 01 December 23Regret to inform that Fruity Frank isn't an Amstrad exclusive. The MSX got it as well.
Same for 



At least we can update the Wiki page for CPC Exclusives.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: GUNHED on 23:40, 01 December 23
For CPC only: Burnin Wheels!  ;)
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: eto on 00:26, 02 December 23
Quote from: GUNHED on 23:40, 01 December 23For CPC only: Burnin Wheels!  ;)
Do you mean the type-in? 
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: norecess464 on 15:27, 02 December 23
Raahhh I was about to suggest Basket Master. (https://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=866) ... it has Amstrad logos in the background after all ! but after some research it also exists on other platforms :picard: (https://www.lemon64.com/game/basket-master)
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Gryzor on 18:12, 02 December 23
Ah, I did know there was a Speccy version but I didn't know about the c64 one - probably best left alone... 
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: GUNHED on 20:40, 02 December 23
Quote from: eto on 00:26, 02 December 23
Quote from: GUNHED on 23:40, 01 December 23For CPC only: Burnin Wheels!  ;)
Do you mean the type-in?

Yes. I couldn't find another one though.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 09:44, 05 December 23
Quote from: norecess464 on 15:27, 02 December 23Raahhh I was about to suggest Basket Master. (https://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=866) ... it has Amstrad logos in the background after all ! but after some research it also exists on other platforms :picard: (https://www.lemon64.com/game/basket-master)

Nah, that was on the Game, Set and Match II compilation on practically every format. :D
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 09:46, 05 December 23
Guys, I hate to dare suggest this, I REALLY hate to dare suggest this but...

Was the abomination better known as Bridge-It released on any other platforms?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
(Hey! At least it's December now and we can play it for the Amstrad rendition of Jingle Bells and it'll still sound better than Buble!)
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: dirtybb on 12:54, 05 December 23
Hi, 
I think Billy la banlieue & Billy 2 are CPC exclusive.
Love these games back in the dayz.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: RetroTony on 20:44, 05 December 23
Roland in Time/Space weren't Amstrad exclusives.  They were also released by Gem Software under the Einsoft label for the Tatung Einstein as Time Trap/Space Trap.  Interestingly, at least some the Dr Who references seem to have been removed.  Perhaps someone 'had a quiet word.' 
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Gryzor on 10:26, 08 December 23
So 1/3rd of the Einstein library are CPC ports? :D
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Anthony Flack on 07:30, 10 December 23
Interesting to learn that some "exclusives" are actually not exclusive at all, but received obscure ports. Even Tubaruba got a Spectrum port. I can't find any record of Radzone on c64, though? I'm pretty sure Flyspy at least was a one-off for the CPC.

I just checked out BurninG Rubber on the Amiga and not only is it a different game, it's nowhere near as good. 
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: zhulien on 14:51, 13 December 23
Highway Encounter is on Atari ST, it is pretty cool on there also.

Is UBI Soft's Aslphalt CPC only?
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Dubliner on 12:22, 17 December 23
I think all the games by Damir Petkovic are CPC exclusives. Suicidal Tendencies and Hardmare are pretty cool.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: BSC on 13:38, 17 December 23
I like this thread - it seems to be incredibly hard to actually come up with a list of 10 CPC-only games, something I would not have thought back in the days. This seems to be implying that any mediocre (or better) game concept was ported to other systems, presumably to milk as much money as possible out of it. 

What's the actual list btw? 
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: cwpab on 21:01, 17 December 23
Quote from: BSC on 13:38, 17 December 23I like this thread - it seems to be incredibly hard to actually come up with a list of 10 CPC-only games, something I would not have thought back in the days. This seems to be implying that any mediocre (or better) game concept was ported to other systems, presumably to milk as much money as possible out of it.

What's the actual list btw?
We should organize teams to check each game in CPC Power year-by-year opening hundreds of tabs on the browser to create a full list of Amstrad CPC exclusives, honestly. I currently don't have the time, but it would be interesting.
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Anthony Flack on 22:44, 17 December 23
When it comes down to I think being the lead platform matters more than being exclusive. 
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: ZorrO on 00:30, 03 January 24
Maybe in recent years, large console producers have been willing to pay big money to software companies not to release certain titles for other platforms, at least for a few years, because they want to have a certain game only on their console to tempt people to buy it. And they don't spare a lot of money to make the game perfect.

But years ago, in the 8-bit era, if something was exclusive, it was usually a bad title that owners of other platforms did not want to have. The more ports there were of a game to other platforms, the more it proved that the game was good. That's why I'm not sure if it's worth looking for exclusives, or worrying that there are so few of them. :)
Title: Re: Top 10 exclusive CPC games
Post by: Anthony Flack on 02:05, 03 January 24
Sometimes it indicates an obscure first game written on spec by a bedroom coder, published on a budget label, that wasn't economical to pay a professional coder to port to any other system, or maybe the port was botched. Hence a game like Flyspy.

Sometimes I think a good game like Radzone is simply overlooked. 
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