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Title: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Gryzor on 08:39, 06 April 11
Hello guys,
Anyone here who could do a pixel art rendering of a CPC? Should be easy enough for someone with the skills - I'd really love to make a t-shirt out of it...
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Devilmarkus on 09:07, 06 April 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 08:39, 06 April 11
Hello guys,
Anyone here who could do a pixel art rendering of a CPC? Should be easy enough for someone with the skills - I'd really love to make a t-shirt out of it...


INK 0,0:BORDER 0:INK 1,2:MODE 1:PLOT 320,200,1

This is a photorealistic picture from the earth! (Viewn from sun) ;)
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: AMSDOS on 10:42, 06 April 11
I've been known to dabble a little bit of computer art (this for instance (http://forums.envirotalk.com.au/Computer-Art-user1753-album26.html)), the trouble is I'm using a PC with an infinite range of colours  ???  Even some of my images are using 16 colours at low-res as attached!  :(

What I need to do is gather the CPC colours and get them into GIMP (or perhaps put them into Paint which looks easy enough and then get them into GIMP), then try some effects. Another program I like is Ultimate Paint!  ;D
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Bryce on 10:51, 06 April 11
Your "This for instance" is Forbidden - Access denied.

Bryce.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Devilmarkus on 11:03, 06 April 11
Quote from: Bryce on 10:51, 06 April 11
Your "This for instance" is Forbidden - Access denied.

For me it works ok...
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: AMSDOS on 11:05, 06 April 11
Quote from: Bryce on 10:51, 06 April 11
Your "This for instance" is Forbidden - Access denied.

Bryce.

Hmmm, I don't know why it won't allow you in, had no problems on my side. Perhaps you'll be able to see that art from the threads in that forum - this one (http://forums.envirotalk.com.au/Computer-Graphics-t7365.html) & that one (http://forums.envirotalk.com.au/computer-art-t8134.html).

The CPC seems to have it's strength in the Blues & Greens, a pity cause I sort of fancied one of my Grey pictures only to see it had a whole grey depth thing! :(
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Gryzor on 11:12, 06 April 11
Works for me, but there's no pixel art there :)

In any case, nobody talked about the CPC palette..?
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: arnoldemu on 11:22, 06 April 11
Quote from: CP/M User on 10:42, 06 April 11
What I need to do is gather the CPC colours and get them into GIMP (or perhaps put them into Paint which looks easy enough and then get them into GIMP), then try some effects. Another program I like is Ultimate Paint!  ;D

http://www.cpctech.org.uk/download/gimp.zip (http://www.cpctech.org.uk/download/gimp.zip)


for mode 0, I set a different x and y aspect, then use view "dot for dot".
Then you can enjoy chunkyness.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: arnoldemu on 11:45, 06 April 11
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 09:07, 06 April 11

INK 0,0:BORDER 0:INK 1,2:MODE 1:PLOT 320,200,1

This is a photorealistic picture from the earth! (Viewn from sun) ;)
I like the minimalist approach. The single pixel, alone and unloved, desperately seeking others to be with. This pixel wishes it was brown.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: MacDeath on 14:51, 06 April 11
QuoteIn any case, nobody talked about the CPC palette..?
Don't get me started again... :laugh:

http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Video_modes (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/Video_modes)

(http://www.cpcwiki.eu/imgs/e/ee/Cubic_palette1.png)

(http://www.cpcwiki.eu/imgs/5/51/Mire_CPC.png)

(http://cpcrulez.fr/forum/download/file.php?id=426)

QuoteAnyone here who could do a pixel art rendering of a CPC? Should be easy   enough for someone with the skills - I'd really love to make a t-shirt   out of it...
What resolution ?
What mode ?
What Model ?

Have a photo as model ?

QuoteWhat I need to do is gather the CPC colours and get them into GIMP (or   perhaps put them into Paint which looks easy enough and then get them   into GIMP), then try some effects. Another program I like is Ultimate   Paint!
Paint.net is perfect for this.

I made my own CPC palette into it...
(http://cpcrulez.fr/forum/download/file.php?id=360&mode=view)
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Gryzor on 14:53, 06 April 11
erm... any resolution, any model (though the 464 would be the best and probably easiest). Mode??????? I guess one pixel for each key would be the minimum in order to achieve the cursor keys cross.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: MacDeath on 15:07, 06 April 11
Google for noobs...

(http://amigamuseum.emu-france.com/Fichiers/Biographie/images/amstrad_cpc6128/cpcmag05_00.png)

(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/150/i/2010/345/1/a/amstar_cpc_464_by_denema-d34oelm.jpg)

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/345/1/a/amstar_cpc_464_by_denema-d34oelm.jpg)

(http://www.grimware.org/lib/exe/fetch.php/documentations/hardware/amstrad.cpc/bw.cpc.6128.png?w=160)(http://www.grimware.org/lib/exe/fetch.php/documentations/hardware/amstrad.cpc/bw.cpc.664.png?w=160)(http://www.grimware.org/lib/exe/fetch.php/documentations/hardware/amstrad.cpc/bw.cpc.464.png?w=160)
(http://www.grimware.org/lib/exe/fetch.php/documentations/hardware/amstrad.plus/bw.6128.plus.png?w=160)(http://www.grimware.org/lib/exe/fetch.php/documentations/hardware/amstrad.plus/bw.464.plus.png?w=160)(http://www.grimware.org/lib/exe/fetch.php/documentations/hardware/amstrad.plus/bw.gx.4000.png?w=160)

(http://membres.multimania.fr/neslp/amstrad.gif)
http://www.grospixels.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=11307&forum=1&19

(http://titan08.free.fr/divers/sprites/amiga_sprites_detourage02.png)

(http://a6.idata.over-blog.com/0/01/53/72/consoles-retro/gx4000-plan.gif)


enjoy...
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Gryzor on 15:10, 06 April 11
Erm... yes, of these only the isometric animated gif is pixel art.Quite nice, actually. The rest are either not pixel art or not showing a CPC. What I had in mind was the 464 itself (no monitor) from above...
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: MacDeath on 15:20, 06 April 11
QuoteWhat I had in mind was the 464 itself (no monitor) from above...
So I can nothing for you as my fetish is 6128 only... ;D
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: EgoTrip on 21:23, 06 April 11
Dunno if this is what you want, but theres no keyboard lettering. The scale is not perfect.
(deleted due to new version being uploaded)
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: MacDeath on 22:06, 06 April 11
mmmh...

perhaps this one I did today ?

It is quite a stub a ctually...

I tried something in mode0... but I haven't give some relief to the keys yet...

It may need a bigger size to get properly detailed...

I just tried to keep a quite correct proportion but I failed to give it the real form...

The real CPC464 is slightly "diagonal" shaped... sort of (don't know of to explain this in English, sorry ...)

Also As the low resolution is quite low...
Couldn't detail that much the Logos or signs...


Post Edition :

Ok here a new batch...

the resolution (screen dimensions) is a bit bastardish, yet fully displayable on a CPC in  slightly redimensionned screen...Hope you'll like it..?

The square pixels version pass well into convimgCPC.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Gryzor on 09:49, 07 April 11
Hehhhh these are all nice, especially yours, EgoTrip! Dunno if it's usable for a t-shirt (I'll try), but can I use it for my sig? :)

MacDeath, the Mode1 ones are really nice. Mode2 doesn't really help I think...
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: MacDeath on 10:19, 07 April 11
Thx, but the mode1 version have the exact same pixel surfaces...

In what the Mode0 doesn't helps ?

Oh yeah, T-shirts are more expensive depending  onthe number of colours you want ?


There the last version, in 384x272 full screen resolution...
Good to go into convimgCPC...

This one features a bit more highlights, hence it uses the full 16 colours.


Also the mode0 pixels are exactly what is needed for a proper isometric.
But of course this is not as precise as a true 3D rendering, it is stylised a bit...
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: AMSDOS on 10:30, 07 April 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 11:12, 06 April 11
Works for me, but there's no pixel art there :)

Wha??  ???

Quote
In any case, nobody talked about the CPC palette..?

No, it's just me taking over this thread - why waste starting up another thread when this one exists?

Anyway I made these in Black and white which I should be able to make some CPC variation for.

Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: EgoTrip on 10:42, 07 April 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 09:49, 07 April 11
Hehhhh these are all nice, especially yours, EgoTrip! Dunno if it's usable for a t-shirt (I'll try), but can I use it for my sig? :)

MacDeath, the Mode1 ones are really nice. Mode2 doesn't really help I think...


Sure, feel free to use it unedited for anything you want. I do think MacDeath's are better though especially the second one.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: MacDeath on 10:57, 07 April 11
QuoteAnyway I made these in Black and white which I should be able to make some CPC variation for.
This looks good but would need more proper/regular/cleaner ditherings...

QuoteWha??
What is commonly called pixel Art is art... where you actually see the pixels...
Lowres-like...(be it false...)


Of course many "pixel art" we see (isometric, often) actually use shittons of colours and so on... and couldn't actually run on the machines it mimics.
Also most of those found on the internet are in fucking JPG... so there is no more art in the pixel...

If pixels are properly set, dithered and regular, you may get an awesome feeling with only 16 colours...
Today's High resolution is even better to see the true potential of such a well pixelised picture... but this implies a lot of work...  ::)

QuoteAnyway I made these in Black and white which I should be able to make some CPC variation for.
Mode2 or 1 ?

If mode1 you could use the Grey to smoother this.

QuoteI do think MacDeath's are better though especially the second one.
Thx... which second one ?

the 4 colours version was roughly ported and need actually a better colour choice IMO... perhaps the use a some rasters too so the text would be in Yellow and the CPC in... not yellow.


Here, my shot on the wormhole... :-[

I used Graphixwizard old version (it givesthe best monocolour mode1 ditherings IMO) to get a 3 colours version...
Then I used Paint.net to recolour according to the zones/circles.

I hope you don't mind me doing this...

let's compare :
(http://cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2145.0;attach=1471;image)
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: EgoTrip on 11:41, 07 April 11
Heres my one again, I had to fix a couple of minor details. There is also one with keyboard lettering. Anyone is free to use them provided they use as-is, if you want anything changing let me know.


MacDeath: the last one you posted
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Gryzor on 11:55, 07 April 11
Heheh the lettering is over the top :D Fantastic job!

Only two notices - it could probably do with some shading (even though it would mean more colours), and the counter should read "464" :)

Thanks again!

Btw, I prefer this one for no reason other than that I didn't have iso in mind...

PS It's 464px wide...
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: EgoTrip on 12:10, 07 April 11
How/where do you want the shading?


I have changed the counter to 464...
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: AMSDOS on 12:12, 07 April 11
Quote from: MacDeath on 10:57, 07 April 11
This looks good but would need more proper/regular/cleaner ditherings...

I've got ConvImgCPC and just played around with it one of those images, unfortunately I because it's using a based on a range of images I made previously it's done in that size! So if I reduce it, I lose detail and if I play around converting the original image so it becomes a CPC image it becomes Blocky!  ???

QuoteWhat is commonly called pixel Art is art... where you actually see the pixels...
Lowres-like...(be it false...)

I've done Low-res stuff with the aim of scale the image up and still retain the same quality of it (only larger), which I've attached.

Though I'm unsure what Gryzor was referring to, I interpreted it as "I can see the thread, but see no imagery", though it could mean "I see no pixelated art", to which I thought some of it was, perhaps not all cause some of it are photos transformed into Digital Drawings in an effect to make it look hand drawn.

QuoteOf course many "pixel art" we see (isometric, often) actually use shittons of colours and so on... and couldn't actually run on the machines it mimics.
Also most of those found on the internet are in fucking JPG... so there is no more art in the pixel...

Beware the Converter which converts whatever your image is in into JPG too!  :(

QuoteIf pixels are properly set, dithered and regular, you may get an awesome feeling with only 16 colours...
Today's High resolution is even better to see the true potential of such a well pixelised picture... but this implies a lot of work...  ::)
Mode2 or 1 ?

This is where I'm unsure if something like ConvImgCPC can simply be used as a tool to generate the right feeling, obviously something which offers a vast amount of options or personal selections, I just thought it would be good to try some experimentation with Paint and GIMP with CPC colouring and resolution to generate some effects which would work on an Amstrad!  ;D

QuoteHere, my shot on the wormhole... :-[

I used Graphixwizard old version (it givesthe best monocolour mode1 ditherings IMO) to get a 3 colours version...
Then I used Paint.net to recolour according to the zones/circles.

I hope you don't mind me doing this...

Yeah I know it's a silly name for that image (wormhole - blame the Jon Pertwee era of Dr Who for that  :-[ ), I won't mind having a look at that Graphixwizard cause that do over you've done looks good.  ;D
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Bryce on 12:13, 07 April 11
How about an animated version where the counter rolls over?

Bryce.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: AMSDOS on 12:21, 07 April 11
Quote from: arnoldemu on 11:22, 06 April 11
http://www.cpctech.org.uk/download/gimp.zip (http://www.cpctech.org.uk/download/gimp.zip)


for mode 0, I set a different x and y aspect, then use view "dot for dot".
Then you can enjoy chunkyness.

I noticed something like this on your site some time back, unfortunately I'm using a later version of GIMP which was set out a bit different from the instructions on your site, will have to dig them up again to see if I can make sense of what I can do in GIMP to generate the right effect.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: remax on 12:51, 07 April 11
Quote from: Bryce on 12:13, 07 April 11
How about an animated version where the counter rolls over?

Bryce.


Hard to do on a T-Shirt  ;D
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Bryce on 13:13, 07 April 11
Quote from: remax on 12:51, 07 April 11

Hard to do on a T-Shirt  ;D

You're just afraid of the challenge :D Could be done with a small LCD stuck on the front :)

In fact adding a working power LED, now that would be cool (extremely nerdy).

Bryce.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: MacDeath on 14:11, 07 April 11
Ok so I guess my isometric won't make it into production stage... :-[
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: sigh on 14:14, 07 April 11
Quote from: remax on 12:51, 07 April 11

Hard to do on a T-Shirt  ;D

You could have it as a lenticular/hologram. I have a lenticular Astro boy  t-shirt from Japan that animates in 2 images. The first image being the astro boy and the second, the mechanics inside his body.

This would look pretty nice with computers showing the inner workings of the motherboard.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: EgoTrip on 14:26, 07 April 11
Quote from: MacDeath on 14:11, 07 April 11
Ok so I guess my isometric won't make it into production stage... :-[


I'm sure someone will find a use for it, I personally think it would look better on a t-shirt than mine would.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Gryzor on 14:51, 07 April 11
@CP/M User: apologies mate if I offended you. Pixel art is something different than digital painting. From Wikipedia:
QuotePixel art is a form of digital art, created through the use of raster graphics software, where images are edited on the pixel level. Graphics in most old (or relatively limited) computer and video games, graphing calculator games, and many mobile phone games are mostly pixel art.

So, basically, it's when you draw something pixel by pixel

@EgoTrip: regarding shading, hm, not really sure, maybe some diagonal gradients from lighter to darker?
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: EgoTrip on 16:46, 07 April 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 14:51, 07 April 11
@CP/M User: apologies mate if I offended you. Pixel art is something different than digital painting. From Wikipedia:
So, basically, it's when you draw something pixel by pixel

@EgoTrip: regarding shading, hm, not really sure, maybe some diagonal gradients from lighter to darker?


No promises but I will see what I can do, im a novice at pixel art.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Gryzor on 07:21, 08 April 11
If you're a novice, you're off to a great start mate... :)
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: AMSDOS on 10:26, 08 April 11
Quote from: Gryzor on 14:51, 07 April 11
@CP/M User: apologies mate if I offended you. Pixel art is something different than digital painting. From Wikipedia:
So, basically, it's when you draw something pixel by pixel

No offence taken.

I sent arnoldemu a few routines which plots pixles from a series of colours which almost makes plotting an image straightfoward, well the last one I wrote is, since it isn't hungry on memory, of course it would need some adjustments to go in mode 0 and mode 2.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Devilmarkus on 11:45, 08 April 11
I like this:
(http://retrospec.sgn.net/users/tomcat/yu/gfx/IsoCPC.gif)
found on http://retrospec.sgn.net/users/tomcat/yu
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Gryzor on 16:53, 08 April 11
Ahhh this is ultra-cute (although it's much thinner than it should!). I've actually seen this elsewhere... I wonder who's done it. I'm thinking new wiki logo :)
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Devilmarkus on 17:01, 08 April 11
I added the link to the website of the owner who made it. ;)
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Gryzor on 17:06, 08 April 11
Ah! It's retrospec... that's probably where I had seen it! But I like the idea of such a rendering (I mean the CPC in pixel-style) for the logo :)
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: MacDeath on 21:33, 08 April 11
QuoteI like this:
(http://retrospec.sgn.net/users/tomcat/yu/gfx/IsoCPC.gif)

:'( :'( :'(
But mine is CPC-diplayable...
:'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: steve on 22:20, 08 April 11
If you want an image to print on a t-shirt, I would have thought a high resolution image would look better on a t-shirt than a low resolution image.
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: EgoTrip on 16:15, 09 April 11
Quote from: steve on 22:20, 08 April 11
If you want an image to print on a t-shirt, I would have thought a high resolution image would look better on a t-shirt than a low resolution image.


Unless of course you are going for the blocky, retro pixel look
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: steve on 13:45, 13 April 11
@Gryzor, someone is selling T-shirts with a CPC 464 design on ebay now.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Amstrad-CPC-464-Retro-Mens-T-Shirt-/250776588649?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item80100b5bdf (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Amstrad-CPC-464-Retro-Mens-T-Shirt-/250776588649?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item80100b5bdf)
Title: Re: Any pixel artists?
Post by: Gryzor on 16:45, 16 April 11
Thanks, Steve, though this is not pixel art but a render. These are the ones advertised in Retro Gamer, too.
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