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Title: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 16:50, 30 June 15
Hi everyone, i almost feel like a fraud joining an amstrad forum having never owned any amstrad computers (although i did use to sell them but mainly the 1st generation pc's and pcw's) however i have owned a gx4000 since it's early days.


i'm a 50+ year old retro gamer mostly consoles but i do have (or have owned) pretty much every games, handheld and home computer system, i currently have around 60 systems and approximately 4000 games but a disability has forced me towards using flashcards as i can no longer go rooting through cupboards to find what i want to play but i do play, i buy games to play them, none of this keeping them sealed for me games are to be played not looked at.


i never really considered myself a retro gamer as i always just bough whatever was new (and still do, it's a habbit) but modern gaming has driven me to appreciate the pleasure of owning a complete, working game that will continue to work whenever and wherever i want as long as i have access to the correct hardware.


so what persuaded me to sign up here? well to be honest i've been lurking for quite a while but i finally decided to buy one of those fantastic cpc flashcards and it seems the only way to order one is to sign up.


i'm honestly still unsure about the whole amstrad ecosystem as i was (and still am at heart) an atari man but several of my online "friends" seem to rate the cpc systems so i'm thinking of giving it a go at some point in the not too distant future and at that point i'm going to need a whole lot of help and guidance and this seems like the place to get it.


just before anyone thinks my excessive flashcard use is just an excuse for piracy i'll point out that i still regularly buy games that i can already play on them as they tend to open my eyes to games i'd never considered previously, in fact i bought a bunch of atari 2600 and philips g70000 carts only last week.


anyway, thats enough  chat from me, i have a new flashcard to go and order :o .



Title: Re: Hello
Post by: CraigsBar on 17:01, 30 June 15
Welcome. To be honest I think all retro gamers these days use flash in at least one device. It's not a piracy thing, its a convenience thing for me at least.

Her is the place for CPC help all right. I hope you enjoy yourself, we do trybto help where we can, and when we can't someone else can, or someone else can fix it.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Apollo on 23:37, 30 June 15
Welcome to the board, Craig said already about the flashcards, as I use this kind of tools just because it is easier as to open some old game box that I have nicely stored away.

Hope you like you stay and the appreciation to the CPC world we love and share.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: andycadley on 23:48, 30 June 15
I'm not sure it's even possible to be a massive pirate in the GX4000, there weren't ever enough titles to warrant it!  :laugh:

A flash cart is definitely the best way to play the now hundred odd GX-ready titles, so definitely worth the investment.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: CraigsBar on 23:50, 30 June 15
Quote from: andycadley on 23:48, 30 June 15
I'm not sure it's even possible to be a massive pirate in the GX4000, there weren't ever enough titles to warrant it!  :laugh:

A flash cart is definitely the best way to play the now hundred odd GX-ready titles, so definitely worth the investment.
unless you are the owner of one of the 2 know Chase HQ2 carts.. in which case you need to keep your investment safe. :-( If only one of those 2 people would generously dump the cart.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Dizrythmia on 00:32, 01 July 15
There has to be a heap of them sitting in a warehouse somewhere... I've never stopped believing that :)
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: CraigsBar on 09:42, 01 July 15
Even if it is bad, I want to play that game lol.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 13:01, 01 July 15
well, i may be showing the first signs of catching some kind of bug ;)


i just bought an amstrad aj-5 joystick, but it seems that nothing on the gx4000 uses it and as i'm not a pc gamer (nor does my pc have an old gameport) i think i'm going to have to find something else i can use it on, i know my bbc b+ has a 15 pin port but from what i recall like everything on the bbc it's "standard" is pretty non standard so i guess that's going to put me in the market for a cpc plus but looking around the prices do seem amazingly high considering they barely run anything that wasn't designed for a £20 464.


by the way, looking yesterday in my gx4000 box i noticed i had 2 burning rubber carts, one has a red/pink stripe the other yellow is it just a matter of different stickers or is there a difference?


and is there anything on the gx4000 that can use this aj-5? or converted to use the c4cpc i'm now on the waiting list for  ;D .



Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 13:08, 01 July 15
Quote from: CraigsBar on 23:50, 30 June 15
unless you are the owner of one of the 2 know Chase HQ2 carts.. in which case you need to keep your investment safe. :-( If only one of those 2 people would generously dump the cart.


please don' tell me the amstrad scene is like it is on coleco where homebrew comes on very limited run carts which no one will dump even when they are long sold out because "it would devalue the carts if everyone could play them". (obviously, that only applies to certain titles not all). i just don't understand it, especially with old games where the ip holder is never going to make anything from it in the future on that platform.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: CraigsBar on 13:13, 01 July 15
Quote from: ImpaledGryphon on 13:01, 01 July 15
well, i may be showing the first signs of catching some kind of bug ;)


i just bought an amstrad aj-5 joystick, but it seems that nothing on the gx4000 uses it and as i'm not a pc gamer (nor does my pc have an old gameport) i think i'm going to have to find something else i can use it on, i know my bbc b+ has a 15 pin port but from what i recall like everything on the bbc it's "standard" is pretty non standard so i guess that's going to put me in the market for a cpc plus but looking around the prices do seem amazingly high considering they barely run anything that wasn't designed for a £20 464.


by the way, looking yesterday in my gx4000 box i noticed i had 2 burning rubber carts, one has a red/pink stripe the other yellow is it just a matter of different stickers or is there a difference?


and is there anything on the gx4000 that can use this aj-5? or converted to use the c4cpc i'm now on the waiting list for  ;D .
The yellow stripe is for a 464+ or 6128+ it contains burning rubber and the os  with a boot menu to select between them.

Craig.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: CraigsBar on 13:16, 01 July 15
Quote from: ImpaledGryphon on 13:08, 01 July 15

please don' tell me the amstrad scene is like it is on coleco where homebrew comes on very limited run carts which no one will dump even when they are long sold out because "it would devalue the carts if everyone could play them". (obviously, that only applies to certain titles not all). i just don't understand it, especially with old games where the ip holder is never going to make anything from it in the future on that platform.
No, chase HQ 2 was a full retail release. It was thought to have been pulled pre launch, up until 2 copies were found in the wild, going for mental money on eBay. Currently the only 2 known copies. And their owners don't seem to want to dump them. :(
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 13:26, 01 July 15
Quote from: CraigsBar on 13:16, 01 July 15
No, chase HQ 2 was a full retail release. It was thought to have been pulled pre launch, up until 2 copies were found in the wild, going for mental money on eBay. Currently the only 2 known copies. And their owners don't seem to want to dump them. :(


assuming they aren't sealed and dumping is a risk free operation that just seams mean.


thanks for explaining the yellow stripe, i wonder how i came about that cart as i've never owned a cpc let alone a plus.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: CraigsBar on 13:47, 01 July 15
Who knows. It won't work on the gx 4000 anyway. As it hangs when it doors not find the plus hardware.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: arnoldemu on 13:49, 01 July 15
Quote from: CraigsBar on 13:47, 01 July 15
Who knows. It won't work on the gx 4000 anyway. As it hangs when it doors not find the plus hardware.
I found that yellow cart will go to a basic screen on gx4000 but without any keyboard it's hard to type ;)

@ImpaledGryphon (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1444): Pro Tennis Tour supports the analogue  joystick I believe for one of the players.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: dthrone on 13:53, 01 July 15
It's Tennis Cup II. 


Those AJ-5s are hard to come by.  Hang on to it, it will be perfect for future analogue homebrew.....


..... or give it to me  :P
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: arnoldemu on 13:55, 01 July 15
Quote from: dthrone on 13:53, 01 July 15
It's Tennis Cup II. 
Thanks, I knew it was one of those tennis games.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: arnoldemu on 13:56, 01 July 15
Quote from: ImpaledGryphon on 13:26, 01 July 15
thanks for explaining the yellow stripe, i wonder how i came about that cart as i've never owned a cpc let alone a plus.
keep it for when you get a plus.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 14:01, 01 July 15
thanks folks for the info, i've not noticed a keyboard on my gx4000 (pity it's not like the atari xegs) so it sounds like i'm out of luck on that yellow striped cart, but it's good to know that tennis game will work with the joystick even though i have 2 pads maybe i can convince someone who's better at it than me to play using it as i'm sure it'll hinder them, pity it doesnt work on some of the driving games.


@arnoldemu (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=122), seeing the prices the plus goes for that could be a long while, i paid less for a psx.


@dthrone (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=350), yeah i'll hang on to it, hopefully more will / can use it in the future, i didn't realise they were hard to come by i paid £10 for it.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: dthrone on 14:17, 01 July 15
oh, once you've got your C4CPC you could also use it with the Arnold diagnostic cart.  It will probably keep you more amused than some of the cart games...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 15:04, 01 July 15
Quote from: dthrone on 14:17, 01 July 15
oh, once you've got your C4CPC you could also use it with the Arnold diagnostic cart.  It will probably keep you more amused than some of the cart games...  :laugh:


diagnostic cart? sorry, i don't have one of those (or a rom dump) but yes, i recall the last time i had the gx4000 turned on and i could well believe that watching diagnostics running would be more fun but going from 5 carts (and no, no chase hq 2) to lots to play will hopefully make a difference even if barely anything makes use of the extra features of the gx/plus.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: dthrone on 15:14, 01 July 15
The diagnostic cart file comes preloaded on the C4CPC, along with all the other carts  ;)   See the relevant section on -


http://www.grimware.org/doku.php/documentations/hardware/amstrad.cartridge.released (http://www.grimware.org/doku.php/documentations/hardware/amstrad.cartridge.released)



Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 16:03, 01 July 15
Quote from: dthrone on 15:14, 01 July 15
The diagnostic cart file comes preloaded on the C4CPC, along with all the other carts  ;)   See the relevant section on -


http://www.grimware.org/doku.php/documentations/hardware/amstrad.cartridge.released (http://www.grimware.org/doku.php/documentations/hardware/amstrad.cartridge.released)


i didn't realise it came preloaded with anything other than the firmware and selector, i just planned to use the 26 rom dumps and 167 conversions i had from the selector as nowhere seemed to have any instructions for the c4cpc dip switches, kind of hoped they came with the cart itself.


that site was interesting though, it seems the yellow cart may work on the gx as it says that if you wait 30 seconds it autoboots to burning rubber, i'll have to try that.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: dthrone on 16:12, 01 July 15
The instructions that come with it are limited to which way round it should go in.  Instructions are given here -


C4CPC - CPCWiki (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/C4CPC)


Basically, the selector is in slot 16 (all dip switches "on").  You can download the various conversions etc. onto the SD card and run them via the selector.


Sorry, I should really say the 16th slot, i.e. slot 15  ::)
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 17:08, 01 July 15
Quote from: dthrone on 16:12, 01 July 15
The instructions that come with it are limited to which way round it should go in.  Instructions are given here -


C4CPC - CPCWiki (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/C4CPC)


Basically, the selector is in slot 16 (all dip switches "on").  You can download the various conversions etc. onto the SD card and run them via the selector.


Sorry, I should really say the 16th slot, i.e. slot 15  ::)

cheers i looked on the wiki but it says the dip switches are there but gives no hint as to what setting is what, kind of like having a g7000 233 in 1 without its manual (only a lot less switches, the g700 multi cart has 14 of the suckers).

anyway "all switches on" is all i think i'm going to need 99% of the time. ;D


(at least until i have a desire to load the diagnostic cart for some entertainment)
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: andycadley on 18:28, 01 July 15
Quote from: ImpaledGryphon on 17:08, 01 July 15
cheers i looked on the wiki but it says the dip switches are there but gives no hint as to what setting is what, kind of like having a g7000 233 in 1 without its manual (only a lot less switches, the g700 multi cart has 14 of the suckers).

anyway "all switches on" is all i think i'm going to need 99% of the time. ;D


(at least until i have a desire to load the diagnostic cart for some entertainment)
Basically the dip switches select one of 16 cartridges to boot. You can put any cartridge you like in each numbered slot by following the right directory structure on the SD card. One of the cartridges is "special", it knows how to read the SD Card filesystem directly and lets you navigate a directory listing and load any cartridge you'd like. Unless you're doing something very unusual, leaving the dip switches set to boot the special cart and using the menu to launch software will be fine. Even the diagnostic cart can be started from there!  ;)
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: CraigsBar on 21:47, 01 July 15
Quote from: ImpaledGryphon on 17:08, 01 July 15
cheers i looked on the wiki but it says the dip switches are there but gives no hint as to what setting is what, kind of like having a g7000 233 in 1 without its manual (only a lot less switches, the g700 multi cart has 14 of the suckers).

anyway "all switches on" is all i think i'm going to need 99% of the time. ;D


(at least until i have a desire to load the diagnostic cart for some entertainment)
I have just cpatured a short video of the c4cpc in use on my 464++ (128k and Disk Interface)


It shows both the CART Selector in Slot 15 but also the Patched Cart in Slot 0 and FW3.15 in slot 1


YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hOyN64ROtY)


If wanted I'll add one from the GX4000 too  :)



Teeheehee, I just noticed the soundtrack playing on my Mac is audible in the background. Can anyone identify *EXACTLY* what I was listening to tonight - And it's a wierd one!!
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: seanb on 00:31, 02 July 15
Something by bieber if I know you
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: CraigsBar on 00:39, 02 July 15
Quote from: seanb on 00:31, 02 July 15
Something by bieber if I know you
Erm, Not quite... Not even close.. Hell you don't know how far wrong that would be, I am not even sure it is possible to be more wrong ;) I just listened again, there are quite a lot of clues in there.




Title: Re: Hello
Post by: seanb on 00:42, 02 July 15
It says the video is private
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: CraigsBar on 00:55, 02 July 15
Quote from: seanb on 00:42, 02 July 15
It says the video is private
Try now... Damn YouTube, changed defaults again.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: seanb on 00:58, 02 July 15
Ha. Rocky horror.
Love the first half but have never managed to finish the second
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 21:12, 02 July 15
Quote from: CraigsBar on 21:47, 01 July 15
I have just cpatured a short video of the c4cpc in use on my 464++ (128k and Disk Interface)


It shows both the CART Selector in Slot 15 but also the Patched Cart in Slot 0 and FW3.15 in slot 1


YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hOyN64ROtY)


If wanted I'll add one from the GX4000 too  :)



Teeheehee, I just noticed the soundtrack playing on my Mac is audible in the background. Can anyone identify *EXACTLY* what I was listening to tonight - And it's a wierd one!!


thanks for that, makes things a little more obvious i just wish the makers had simply added something to say slot 0 = 0000, slot 1 = 1000 and so on upto slot 15 = 1111 like pretty much every switched card on the market, i do love the fact that you can customise those slots though, that's very neat.


that 464 plus may not have sold well and been massively underpowered compared to it's compatriots but i have to admit it's a very nice looking machine  (better than anything else of its era) especially when compared to the draught excluder style of the cpc's and amstrad produced spectrums.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: CraigsBar on 21:55, 02 July 15
I like it. Although mine has been to doctor @Bryce 's workshop of delights to be upgraded to 6128+ spec. It's either a 4128+ or a 464++

Although I have 2 6128+ machines as well, it's the 464+ that I user most of the time.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 02:59, 03 July 15
Quote from: CraigsBar on 21:55, 02 July 15
I like it. Although mine has been to doctor @Bryce (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=225) 's workshop of delights to be upgraded to 6128+ spec. It's either a 4128+ or a 464++

Although I have 2 6128+ machines as well, it's the 464+ that I user most of the time.


i really don't blame you, as i said it's an absolutely great looking machine i really can see one in my future even if it's only to look at ;) (but it'll probable get wired to my hcx assuming it's just a simple cable swap to take it off my st, although obviously i'd need to get some kind of a disc interface for the 464+ as if i recall from reading about it they didn't include one).


but sadly it'll have to wait.

Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 02:08, 19 July 15
well, i've finally gone and done it :D


just bought a 464 with scart cable and a copy of the beau jolly big box so i still need a psu but then i'll be a fully fledged cpc owner and feel less of a fraud on here, i'm assuming that i can use my gx joypads or any regular atari type joystick like my quickshot 128f or 138f.


what should i be looking for in a psu? consider that it's likely i'll be adding bits to the machine at some future point so i'll need some spare capacity.

Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Dizrythmia on 02:42, 19 July 15
I'm currently hosting a retro gaming museum at a convention where my 6128 & GX4000 are side by side, each with those controllers :)
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 08:44, 19 July 15
Quote from: Dizrythmia on 02:42, 19 July 15
I'm currently hosting a retro gaming museum at a convention where my 6128 & GX4000 are side by side, each with those controllers :)


that's good to know, at least it's not like the amstrad speccys that need an adaptor to use a standard controller.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Gryzor on 16:44, 18 August 15
A bit late to the party (still catching up with the threads after my vacation), but welcome, @ImpaledGryphon (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1444) !


Funny way to see it, describing yourself as a fraud :D I'd say everyone is welcome even if one has no machines whatsoever, but I understand the feeling :)
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: ImpaledGryphon on 17:15, 18 August 15
Quote from: Gryzor on 16:44, 18 August 15
A bit late to the party (still catching up with the threads after my vacation), but welcome, @ImpaledGryphon (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1444) !


Funny way to see it, describing yourself as a fraud :D I'd say everyone is welcome even if one has no machines whatsoever, but I understand the feeling :)


i have to say, i've been made to feel most welcome, which is nice.


my c4cpc shipped last week so hopefully it'll be here soon then i can finally get to expand my gx4000 horizons.


i did buy a cpc 464 a few weeks ago but as yet it hasn't been sent, i thought no psu was included but the seller said she'd lost it and was still looking so i've been waiting for her to find it, hopefully it'll get sent in the next week or so.


i'm no closer to a plus, i just can't warrant the prices they go for at the moment.


i had a bit of a recount of my systems, turns out i'm around the 100 mark not 60 as i originally thought.



Title: Re: Hello
Post by: TFM on 18:59, 22 June 16
Quote from: arnoldemu on 13:49, 01 July 15
... Pro Tennis Tour supports the analogue  joystick I believe for one of the players.


Well, I'm sorry to tell that the 6128 Plus game Pro Tennis Tour on Cartridge does NOT support the analogue joystick port. I tested two different analogue joysticks which worked with other software. Took me quite a while to check this, but I kept it on my TO DO list.  :)
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