Title: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: buzby on 23:06, 08 October 12
Post by: buzby on 23:06, 08 October 12
so whilst going through all our software me and my mate yoshi doshi were wondering who had got the rarest or hard to find software ?
or who thinks they have rare stuff but it actually NOT
or who thinks they have rare stuff but it actually NOT
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: TFM on 00:04, 09 October 12
Post by: TFM on 00:04, 09 October 12
One candidate would be the CHQ2 cartridge for the Plus. Else... all our unreleased stuff :laugh:
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: MacDeath on 02:04, 09 October 12
Post by: MacDeath on 02:04, 09 October 12
Amstrad rarest ever...
chèze HècheQiou 2 ... 1 exemplary... the rest ? french and that's its...
chèze HècheQiou 2 ... 1 exemplary... the rest ? french and that's its...
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: TFM on 02:24, 09 October 12
Post by: TFM on 02:24, 09 October 12
Is that something you made? Any informations?
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: fano on 02:43, 09 October 12
Post by: fano on 02:43, 09 October 12
I think he meant Chaise Hache Cul 2 ::)
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: MacDeath on 16:06, 09 October 12
Post by: MacDeath on 16:06, 09 October 12
QuoteI think he meant Chaise Hache Cul 2ach damn, I knew I screwed it somewhere.
Thx Fano.
Gazza2 on GX4000 was also tested in a few magazines so the game is supposed to have existed too, hence it must be quite rare if not disapeared into oblivion.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Cholo on 23:30, 09 October 12
Post by: Cholo on 23:30, 09 October 12
Really good question there because what is really rare.
Like there is a lot of original Amsoft games collectors out there and i often wonder if the "rare" games really are rare or its just that they get snatched away from ebay so fast that i dont get to see em. No doubt there is some genuine rare amsoft titles out there.
Genuine rare games today is usually the games that people didnt buy much of back in the days, so in general you could say:
- disc games
- overpriced games
- non-action games
- single batch or "old" games
- multiformat games
- hardware restriced games
- odds & end
- back to the future
Lets start off by saying that compilations really arnt rare at all. Sure there may be exceptions but in general compilations .. tape or disc .. is as common as the amsoft games pack you got when buying an amstrad.
Disc games: was more expensive than tapes, so your disc games will automaticly be a lot more rare than tape ones. Tapes also seem to last better than disc games, so actually having a genuine working disc game in a nice fullprice big box with manual & stuff is definately hard to get.
Overpriced games: especially early on some of the quite horrible amsoft (or memorable early programming attempts) games sold at full price 9.95 or worse. Probably better than magazine type-ins .. but not much better :D The budget marked cought up really fast though.
Non-action games: Kinda tricky this one as popular action games can "hide" as rare game. Still no hiding when some major action blockbusters like Robocop shows up 3 times a week on ebay (disc or tape dosnt matter). I personally stopped counting how many copies of Ghostbusters i got as once i got past 10 it really stopped to matter. Anyways, any non-action game is usually fairly rare .. simply as it was only bought by adults only. Flight simulators and even war games might get you into the semi-rare i guess but only slightly. To get into the genuine rare stuff youll need to get into the really "dull" stuff like text adventures.
Single batch or "old" game: if a game was only sold once and never got onto budget/compilation its probably gonna be hard to get now. Like a original disc copy of Donkey Kong in the nice big wrapper casing it came with like a few of the early game. The game was never sold as budget or re-released if i remember correctly. Even cheaper tape version in a cheap normal dual cassette box sell for silly high money.
Multiformat games: youd think having discs with multiple format games on them would have sold more. Sadly the upto 3x format cpc, pcw & spec+ format discs usually ment "installing" or reformatting of the original disc to the wanted format for the system.
Hardware restricted games: Like the 128k only games. Or even worse the 6128 only games. Dont work on a 464 or 646 even with the rare DDI & ram expansions usually. Like Pirates! or Addams Family. Yes, there was sold a tape version Addams Family too .. but it still only loads on a real 6128 .. if they have the right tape cable .. and if they have a REAL datarecorder (wont work with a normal walkman as it dosnt have the datarecorder motor input). Then there is a few PLUS games out there. The plus range never really catched on and is probably even more rare than the GX4000 console range (and that one is quite rare or high on the spenders list no doubt).
Odds and end: Some games was only released in one region only. Like most people probably think that B.A.T. and Defender of the Crown was great game on the Amiga. Probably missed out on the great amstrad versions.
Back to the future: Small batches of games is still released from time to time. Perhaps more on a fun homebrew basis but non the less in extreme few copies when it happens. Of cause you could argue its not really commercial when someone "sells" 30 copies of a game. Still, statistically it cant get much rare than that :)
In the end it quite hard to tell unless you list your games :) Having a stack of ol' Level 9, Rainbird and infocom textadventures .. and you might have a bit of a rare collection i guess.
The fake's: quite a few fake GX4000 games have been seen on ebay. Like dont get fooled into thinking you have found some rare undiscovered GX4000 game .. like Saboteur, Frogger or Iznogood or similar. They pop up from time to time at silly high prices and forget to admit they are actually some homebrew cart transfers of normal amstrad games onto cart format. Quite easy to spot as they usually omit copyright marks aka software house on the game label/front etc. Technically speaking these games are quite rare of cause .. but i think not the kinda rare youd want to get into.
Like there is a lot of original Amsoft games collectors out there and i often wonder if the "rare" games really are rare or its just that they get snatched away from ebay so fast that i dont get to see em. No doubt there is some genuine rare amsoft titles out there.
Genuine rare games today is usually the games that people didnt buy much of back in the days, so in general you could say:
- disc games
- overpriced games
- non-action games
- single batch or "old" games
- multiformat games
- hardware restriced games
- odds & end
- back to the future
Lets start off by saying that compilations really arnt rare at all. Sure there may be exceptions but in general compilations .. tape or disc .. is as common as the amsoft games pack you got when buying an amstrad.
Disc games: was more expensive than tapes, so your disc games will automaticly be a lot more rare than tape ones. Tapes also seem to last better than disc games, so actually having a genuine working disc game in a nice fullprice big box with manual & stuff is definately hard to get.
Overpriced games: especially early on some of the quite horrible amsoft (or memorable early programming attempts) games sold at full price 9.95 or worse. Probably better than magazine type-ins .. but not much better :D The budget marked cought up really fast though.
Non-action games: Kinda tricky this one as popular action games can "hide" as rare game. Still no hiding when some major action blockbusters like Robocop shows up 3 times a week on ebay (disc or tape dosnt matter). I personally stopped counting how many copies of Ghostbusters i got as once i got past 10 it really stopped to matter. Anyways, any non-action game is usually fairly rare .. simply as it was only bought by adults only. Flight simulators and even war games might get you into the semi-rare i guess but only slightly. To get into the genuine rare stuff youll need to get into the really "dull" stuff like text adventures.
Single batch or "old" game: if a game was only sold once and never got onto budget/compilation its probably gonna be hard to get now. Like a original disc copy of Donkey Kong in the nice big wrapper casing it came with like a few of the early game. The game was never sold as budget or re-released if i remember correctly. Even cheaper tape version in a cheap normal dual cassette box sell for silly high money.
Multiformat games: youd think having discs with multiple format games on them would have sold more. Sadly the upto 3x format cpc, pcw & spec+ format discs usually ment "installing" or reformatting of the original disc to the wanted format for the system.
Hardware restricted games: Like the 128k only games. Or even worse the 6128 only games. Dont work on a 464 or 646 even with the rare DDI & ram expansions usually. Like Pirates! or Addams Family. Yes, there was sold a tape version Addams Family too .. but it still only loads on a real 6128 .. if they have the right tape cable .. and if they have a REAL datarecorder (wont work with a normal walkman as it dosnt have the datarecorder motor input). Then there is a few PLUS games out there. The plus range never really catched on and is probably even more rare than the GX4000 console range (and that one is quite rare or high on the spenders list no doubt).
Odds and end: Some games was only released in one region only. Like most people probably think that B.A.T. and Defender of the Crown was great game on the Amiga. Probably missed out on the great amstrad versions.
Back to the future: Small batches of games is still released from time to time. Perhaps more on a fun homebrew basis but non the less in extreme few copies when it happens. Of cause you could argue its not really commercial when someone "sells" 30 copies of a game. Still, statistically it cant get much rare than that :)
In the end it quite hard to tell unless you list your games :) Having a stack of ol' Level 9, Rainbird and infocom textadventures .. and you might have a bit of a rare collection i guess.
The fake's: quite a few fake GX4000 games have been seen on ebay. Like dont get fooled into thinking you have found some rare undiscovered GX4000 game .. like Saboteur, Frogger or Iznogood or similar. They pop up from time to time at silly high prices and forget to admit they are actually some homebrew cart transfers of normal amstrad games onto cart format. Quite easy to spot as they usually omit copyright marks aka software house on the game label/front etc. Technically speaking these games are quite rare of cause .. but i think not the kinda rare youd want to get into.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: buzby on 02:01, 10 October 12
Post by: buzby on 02:01, 10 October 12
now thats narrowed it down cholo, ive just listed all my software and its took me weeks but at least they are all catalogued now.
now ive got a large pile of doubles and triples to sell on
amsoft titles you say, now i collect them and its getting really difficult now. like you say they get snapped up fast of people want silly prices for them.
now ive got a large pile of doubles and triples to sell on
amsoft titles you say, now i collect them and its getting really difficult now. like you say they get snapped up fast of people want silly prices for them.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Xyphoe on 02:19, 11 October 12
Post by: Xyphoe on 02:19, 11 October 12
Top 3 most prized I would personally say... are strangely enough all GX4000 related ...
1) Chase HQ 2 (cat)
2) Gazza 2 (cart)
3) Trojan Light Phaser in box with Enforcer and Skeet Shoot carts
Otherwise it's boxed (good condition box), with instructions and working DISK games that are otherwise most prized putting aside strange hardware addons.
I would say these are the most valued disks...
B.A.T.
Indiana Jones & The Fate Of Atlantis
Xyphoes Fantasy
Prehistorik II
Super Cauldron
Space Gun
Prince Of Persia
Lemmings
Titus The Fox
North & South
Knight Force
After The War
AMC
Head Over Heels
Purple Saturn Day
Werewolves Of London (Viz Designs original full price release)
Zap T Balls / Megablasters / Fluff - with these three independant home-brew releases I'm not 100% sure if they had box and instructions.
Any of the above should net you £20 each minimum on fleaBay!
There's loads more I've forgotten about - there was a Retro Gamer magazine article and collectors guide recently but their list of games was bizarre and missed many far rarer and of more interest.
1) Chase HQ 2 (cat)
2) Gazza 2 (cart)
3) Trojan Light Phaser in box with Enforcer and Skeet Shoot carts
Otherwise it's boxed (good condition box), with instructions and working DISK games that are otherwise most prized putting aside strange hardware addons.
I would say these are the most valued disks...
B.A.T.
Indiana Jones & The Fate Of Atlantis
Xyphoes Fantasy
Prehistorik II
Super Cauldron
Space Gun
Prince Of Persia
Lemmings
Titus The Fox
North & South
Knight Force
After The War
AMC
Head Over Heels
Purple Saturn Day
Werewolves Of London (Viz Designs original full price release)
Zap T Balls / Megablasters / Fluff - with these three independant home-brew releases I'm not 100% sure if they had box and instructions.
Any of the above should net you £20 each minimum on fleaBay!
There's loads more I've forgotten about - there was a Retro Gamer magazine article and collectors guide recently but their list of games was bizarre and missed many far rarer and of more interest.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Gryzor on 14:12, 11 October 12
Post by: Gryzor on 14:12, 11 October 12
Quote from: XyphoeTop 3 most prized I would personally say... are strangely enough all GX4000 related ...Well, the cat version of CHQ2 is indeed very expensive, but I'd say the ferret version beats them all.
1) Chase HQ 2 (cat)
2) Gazza 2 (cart)
3) Trojan Light Phaser in box with Enforcer and Skeet Shoot carts
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: TFM on 17:26, 11 October 12
Post by: TFM on 17:26, 11 October 12
Megablasters and Fluff both have boxes. I got both from Odiesoft back that day. All original.
Now... you forgot one of the most prescious pieces...
The original Black Land Box (original release in German!). This box has not only the autograms of both producers, it also has a complex handmade drawing on it. It took Siggi a very long time to paint all that pictures. So every box is 100% individual. Some of them were sold at the COM-1 meeting in that day. (I just remember all that old days :laugh: ).
Now... you forgot one of the most prescious pieces...
The original Black Land Box (original release in German!). This box has not only the autograms of both producers, it also has a complex handmade drawing on it. It took Siggi a very long time to paint all that pictures. So every box is 100% individual. Some of them were sold at the COM-1 meeting in that day. (I just remember all that old days :laugh: ).
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: ralferoo on 19:43, 11 October 12
Post by: ralferoo on 19:43, 11 October 12
I finally got round to "cataloguing" the collection of games I've acquired with the CPCs I've bought over the years. By cataloguing, I mean the laziest possible way - simply taking a photo of the box before putting it back in the box! CPC tapes (http://ranulf.net/cpc-tapes/)
Still, amongst the usual dross, there's quite a few here that I've never even heard of and even a couple I'd actually like to try, e.g. North and South!
I've also found about 10 of what look like "barely touched" condition Amsoft disc games, although I'd put the camera away by then. Again, mostly ones I'd never heard of before.
Still, amongst the usual dross, there's quite a few here that I've never even heard of and even a couple I'd actually like to try, e.g. North and South!
I've also found about 10 of what look like "barely touched" condition Amsoft disc games, although I'd put the camera away by then. Again, mostly ones I'd never heard of before.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Cholo on 19:34, 13 October 12
Post by: Cholo on 19:34, 13 October 12
Quote from: ralferoo on 19:43, 11 October 12
I finally got round to "cataloguing" the collection of games I've acquired with the CPCs I've bought over the years. By cataloguing, I mean the laziest possible way - simply taking a photo of the box before putting it back in the box! CPC tapes (http://ranulf.net/cpc-tapes/) ...
Nice collection :) I i have to pick one that made me raise my eyebrows its your copy of "Friday the 13th". Not that its the best game in the world .. but definately fairly rare. And the last time i saw one (at german ebay i think) it sold for silly high money. Purple Saturn Day and Cinderella aint bad either. Lots of other great ones like Druid 2 and YES! do check out North & South .. its as great as the amiga version even though though the tape version dont have the train chase.
Still havnt gotten around to make a full game list of my own. I always get halfway thru the first crate and end up quitting :P But the picture taking actually makes sense .. i gotta try that.
Quote from: Xyphoe on 02:19, 11 October 12Nice list indeed. Definately some freakishly hard to get games in there. Must be quite a few more french/spanish only games that i cant remember too.
Top 3 most prized I would personally say... are strangely enough all GX4000 related ...
1) Chase HQ 2 (cat)
2) Gazza 2 (cart)
3) Trojan Light Phaser in box with Enforcer and Skeet Shoot carts
Otherwise it's boxed (good condition box), with instructions and working DISK games that are otherwise most prized putting aside strange hardware addons.
I would say these are the most valued disks...
B.A.T.
Indiana Jones & The Fate Of Atlantis
Xyphoes Fantasy
Prehistorik II
Super Cauldron
Space Gun
Prince Of Persia
Lemmings
Titus The Fox
North & South
Knight Force
After The War
AMC
Head Over Heels
Purple Saturn Day
Werewolves Of London (Viz Designs original full price release)
Zap T Balls / Megablasters / Fluff - with these three independant home-brew releases I'm not 100% sure if they had box and instructions.
Any of the above should net you £20 each minimum on fleaBay!
There's loads more I've forgotten about - there was a Retro Gamer magazine article and collectors guide recently but their list of games was bizarre and missed many far rarer and of more interest.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: ralferoo on 23:14, 16 October 12
Post by: ralferoo on 23:14, 16 October 12
Quote from: Cholo on 19:34, 13 October 12Sadly, my copy of North and South is the tape version, but I'll definitely have to have a go playing some of these. Those last couple of pictures (from the first tapes with no inlays cards onwards) are of bare tapes / inlay cards without tapes, so Cinderella is just the instructions. I must admit, from the name, it's probably not a game I'd have played without a recommendation...
Nice collection :) I i have to pick one that made me raise my eyebrows its your copy of "Friday the 13th". Not that its the best game in the world .. but definately fairly rare. And the last time i saw one (at german ebay i think) it sold for silly high money. Purple Saturn Day and Cinderella aint bad either. Lots of other great ones like Druid 2 and YES! do check out North & South .. its as great as the amiga version even though though the tape version dont have the train chase.
Interestingly, there seem to be a couple of the Bug Byte re-release of Friday 13th on ebay as buy it now fairly cheaply, but not the Domark copy I have (which also seems different from the artwork here Image: Friday the 13th - The Computer Game - Computing History (http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/big/17484/Friday-the-13th-The-Computer-Game/) ). Anyway, I'll give it a go some time!
The only reason I got round to taking all the photos was I unpacked all the tapes onto the bed in the spare room to sort them into duplicates. And then I started noting them down and it was taking ages, so I just left them there for about a month. And then I needed to make the spare room sleepable in for a visitor and didn't want to just put them all away, so the quickest way was just to photo everything one handed as I was putting them into boxes again... :-X
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: AMSDOS on 10:37, 20 October 12
Post by: AMSDOS on 10:37, 20 October 12
I've been have a look around for the Pandora Manual from Swift Software, well I guess it's just hard to find. :laugh:
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Gryzor on 15:16, 30 October 12
Post by: Gryzor on 15:16, 30 October 12
I was going to say "damn this is lazy!" as I started scrolling down that page, but the mere sight of those covers made me feel so nostalgic! I just love the Amsoft Demo tape, but there are quite a few I wouldn't mind having in there ;)
And yes, North and South is surprisingly good for the platform!
And yes, North and South is surprisingly good for the platform!
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Nich on 21:31, 30 October 12
Post by: Nich on 21:31, 30 October 12
Quote from: Xyphoe on 02:19, 11 October 12Xyphoes Fantasy recently sold for €144.00 on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.fr/XYPHOES-FANTASY-SILMARILS-AMSTRAD-CPC-COMPLET-/370663507623?pt=FR_Jeux_Vid%C3%A9o&hash=item564d4446a7) (that's approximately £116 at the time of writing). 8)
I would say these are the most valued disks...
Xyphoes Fantasy
Any of the above should net you £20 each minimum on fleaBay!
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: AMSDOS on 09:04, 31 October 12
Post by: AMSDOS on 09:04, 31 October 12
Quote from: Gryzor on 15:16, 30 October 12
I just love the Amsoft Demo tape, but there are quite a few I wouldn't mind having in there ;)
Have you seen the Demo which accompanies CP/M 2.2 on Side 4 for the 6128? :D
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Xyphoe on 09:07, 31 October 12
Post by: Xyphoe on 09:07, 31 October 12
Quote from: Nich on 21:31, 30 October 12
Xyphoes Fantasy recently sold for €144.00 on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.fr/XYPHOES-FANTASY-SILMARILS-AMSTRAD-CPC-COMPLET-/370663507623?pt=FR_Jeux_Vid%C3%A9o&hash=item564d4446a7) (that's approximately £116 at the time of writing). 8)
Damn!! Can't believe I missed that one!! But then probably a good thing, as I should be saving money for Xma$!
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Xyphoe on 09:33, 31 October 12
Post by: Xyphoe on 09:33, 31 October 12
£100 for Lords Of Midnight disk! :D
LORDS OF MIDNIGHT BIG BOX FOR AMSTRAD CPC 464 / 664 / 6128 DISK DISC GAME | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LORDS-OF-MIDNIGHT-BIG-BOX-FOR-AMSTRAD-CPC-464-664-6128-DISK-DISC-GAME-/360501598588?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item53ef91d97c)
LORDS OF MIDNIGHT BIG BOX FOR AMSTRAD CPC 464 / 664 / 6128 DISK DISC GAME | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LORDS-OF-MIDNIGHT-BIG-BOX-FOR-AMSTRAD-CPC-464-664-6128-DISK-DISC-GAME-/360501598588?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item53ef91d97c)
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Gryzor on 11:36, 31 October 12
Post by: Gryzor on 11:36, 31 October 12
Quote from: CP/M UserQuote from: Gryzor on Yesterday at 16:16:02I just love the Amsoft Demo tape, but there are quite a few I wouldn't mind having in thereHm, actually no, I have not!
Have you seen the Demo which accompanies CP/M 2.2 on Side 4 for the 6128?
@Xyphoe: I guess Lords of Midnight on the CPC is rare enough indeed... I don't remember it being any huge success outside the Speccy?
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: AMSDOS on 05:43, 01 November 12
Post by: AMSDOS on 05:43, 01 November 12
Quote from: Gryzor on 11:36, 31 October 12
Hm, actually no, I have not!
Oh well, I haven't seen the 664 version. I'm kind of thinking what the differences would be, I think the 6128 version does some Bank switching, I'm not sure though. It has things like Roland in Time as the Demo and does some BASIC 1.1 stuff like FILL.
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@Xyphoe: I guess Lords of Midnight on the CPC is rare enough indeed... I don't remember it being any huge success outside the Speccy?
Isn't Lords of Midnight a sequel to Laser Squad? I'm not sure cause I haven't played either, though know they are similar games.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Gryzor on 12:45, 01 November 12
Post by: Gryzor on 12:45, 01 November 12
Quote from: CP/M UserSimilar? Wouldn't say so...
Isn't Lords of Midnight a sequel to Laser Squad? I'm not sure cause I haven't played either, though know they are similar games.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Gryzor on 12:47, 01 November 12
Post by: Gryzor on 12:47, 01 November 12
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Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: AMSDOS on 20:06, 01 November 12
Post by: AMSDOS on 20:06, 01 November 12
Sorry, I'm thinking of Lords of Chaos.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Cholo on 22:17, 01 November 12
Post by: Cholo on 22:17, 01 November 12
Might add another category or 2 to "rare software" as i resently got hold of "Baby Jo - In Going Home". Now Baby Jo is indeed a disc only & 128kb game only .. but what surpriced me was the size of the game box. Easily half a inch larger than most of my amiga game boxes (and those are pretty big indeed). The 16bits did tend to make boxes twice the size of the 8bits so perhaps it isnt so odd that late 8bit games also got a large box as well sometimes.
So "rare" is:
- Late amstrad software aka 91' or later. Like Indy 4 is a 94 game i think .. and probably as rare as the holy grail :)
- Large box software in general. And not just games as programs did tend to come nice big boxes with binders and whatnot. Do note that a large box dosnt mean that its a better program though .. but it does usually mean there was less sold (or big boxes took up to much space so only the disc/tapes themselves turn up later on).
- Still sealed software. Again there is probably a lot of exceptions (like there are probably still some larger stock budget tape sellers on ebay) but if its a sealed disc game it might make it even more rare.
So "rare" is:
- Late amstrad software aka 91' or later. Like Indy 4 is a 94 game i think .. and probably as rare as the holy grail :)
- Large box software in general. And not just games as programs did tend to come nice big boxes with binders and whatnot. Do note that a large box dosnt mean that its a better program though .. but it does usually mean there was less sold (or big boxes took up to much space so only the disc/tapes themselves turn up later on).
- Still sealed software. Again there is probably a lot of exceptions (like there are probably still some larger stock budget tape sellers on ebay) but if its a sealed disc game it might make it even more rare.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Gryzor on 16:17, 02 November 12
Post by: Gryzor on 16:17, 02 November 12
Ah, then yes. I had forgotten about that.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: TCMSLP on 16:19, 06 November 12
Post by: TCMSLP on 16:19, 06 November 12
Cholo mentions a CPC release in 1994. I wonder, what were the last commercially produced games for the CPC?
Who was the last major publisher supporting the platform, and when did they cease support?
I'm guessing anything ~1994 could have only sold in small quantities.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: TFM on 21:10, 06 November 12
Post by: TFM on 21:10, 06 November 12
There were some during the last years, f.e. Subhunter. And there will be a relase at 2013 too ;-) Yes, a official software company release.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Bryce on 21:20, 06 November 12
Post by: Bryce on 21:20, 06 November 12
Getting back to the original question. Rarest / hard to find software. I have to say, with both software and hardware, the rarest / hardest thing to find, is the thing that you happen to be looking for at the moment! If I for example browse ebay I could see 10 DDI-1 on offer within a month, but if I decide I want one, ebay is suddenly devoid of them and the few that do turn up are stupidly over-priced.
So as far as I'm concerned, the rarest software is the one you happen to be looking for. :D
Bryce.
So as far as I'm concerned, the rarest software is the one you happen to be looking for. :D
Bryce.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: ivarf on 21:59, 06 November 12
Post by: ivarf on 21:59, 06 November 12
Quote from: TFM/FS on 21:10, 06 November 12
There were some during the last years, f.e. Subhunter. And there will be a relase at 2013 too ;-) Yes, a official software company release.
but not from a major publisher like in the old days
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: remax on 00:14, 07 November 12
Post by: remax on 00:14, 07 November 12
Quote from: CP/M User on 09:04, 31 October 12
Have you seen the Demo which accompanies CP/M 2.2 on Side 4 for the 6128? :D
Ahhh the memories!
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: TFM on 19:53, 07 November 12
Post by: TFM on 19:53, 07 November 12
Quote from: ivarf on 21:59, 06 November 12Just be patient for 2013 ;) The 464 version is 95%[nb]5% is just some sound effects, and a title song[/nb] finished (TAPE). 6128/Disc will take some time more. CPC and PC versions are there.
but not from a major publisher like in the old days
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Cholo on 23:30, 08 November 12
Post by: Cholo on 23:30, 08 November 12
Quote from: TCMSLP on 16:19, 06 November 12I had a quick look over at the cpc-power site and it thankfully has a search on year. I was wrong about Indy 4 though its "only" a 93' game (but one of extremely few commercial games). In 94 it gets really low and there is basicly only the 5 games released by Radical Software. 95' its pretty much only public domain.
Cholo mentions a CPC release in 1994. I wonder, what were the last commercially produced games for the CPC?
Who was the last major publisher supporting the platform, and when did they cease support?
I'm guessing anything ~1994 could have only sold in small quantities.
93' does see a few major commercial games like:
Codemasters: Wrestling Superstars, Robin Hood - Legend Quest
Titus: Prehistorik 2, Super Cauldron
Gremlin: Nigel Mansell's World Championship
U.S.Gold: Indiana Jones And The Fate Of Atlantis
Radical: Ball Bearing
Alternative: Bully's Sporting Darts
and perhaps a couple more "stragglers" or "oneshots" too.
As mentioned by people earlier there has actually been quite a few "commercially" sold games in the last couple of years. Like Orion Prime being probably the most "flashy" one being sold in dvd cover with extras inside and in different versions (3" and 3,5") and languages.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: remax on 13:32, 09 November 12
Post by: remax on 13:32, 09 November 12
I heard that the Boxed CPC Version of ALS, by a small deutsch company was really rare. None has seen it to these days, but people says that the programmer might have some remaining sealed boxes of this game, which saw a really confidential distribution in its days.
If we knew his name, perhaps we could contact him and ask him directly ::)
At least, the disk at been dumped for preservation!
If we knew his name, perhaps we could contact him and ask him directly ::)
At least, the disk at been dumped for preservation!
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Gryzor on 14:00, 09 November 12
Post by: Gryzor on 14:00, 09 November 12
Huh, I don't think I've ever seen Indiana Jones And The Fate Of Atlantis before... better check it out!
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Devilmarkus on 23:43, 09 November 12
Post by: Devilmarkus on 23:43, 09 November 12
Quote from: remax on 13:32, 09 November 12
I heard that the Boxed CPC Version of ALS, by a small deutsch company was really rare. None has seen it to these days, but people says that the programmer might have some remaining sealed boxes of this game, which saw a really confidential distribution in its days.
If we knew his name, perhaps we could contact him and ask him directly ::)
At least, the disk at been dumped for preservation!
So sorry, but the last boxed version I accidentially destroyed while using my lawn mower :(
But hey the DSK survived!
http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=6262 (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=6262)
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: remax on 23:48, 09 November 12
Post by: remax on 23:48, 09 November 12
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 23:43, 09 November 12
So sorry, but the last boxed version I accidentially destroyed while using my lawn mower :(
But hey the DSK survived!
http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=6262 (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=6262)
Even the K7 version :( What a shame!
You lawnmowed hundreds of dollars!
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: steve on 11:13, 10 November 12
Post by: steve on 11:13, 10 November 12
Quote from: Devilmarkus on 23:43, 09 November 12
So sorry, but the last boxed version I accidentially destroyed while using my lawn mower :(
But hey the DSK survived!
http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=6262 (http://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?page=detail&num=6262)
Did you confuse lawn mower with lawn mower simulator? ;D
Or do you keep your software on the lawn?
Please explain how this happened.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Devilmarkus on 12:20, 10 November 12
Post by: Devilmarkus on 12:20, 10 November 12
Quote from: steve on 11:13, 10 November 12
Did you confuse lawn mower with lawn mower simulator? ;D
Or do you keep your software on the lawn?
Please explain how this happened.
Err... Emmm..... Well...
I always use my lawn mower to tidy up my room :D
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 19:39, 18 November 12
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 19:39, 18 November 12
Just wondering if this would qualify, but what about Italy 1990 - The World Cup Starts here by U.S Gold?
I don't think a lot of these hit the shelves because there was a bug in the game where the the losing team is announced the winner. So they repackaged the game after the bug was fixed and released it as Italy 1990 - Winners Edition.
That would probably make the original release somewhat of a rarity?
I don't think a lot of these hit the shelves because there was a bug in the game where the the losing team is announced the winner. So they repackaged the game after the bug was fixed and released it as Italy 1990 - Winners Edition.
That would probably make the original release somewhat of a rarity?
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: buzby on 04:10, 20 November 12
Post by: buzby on 04:10, 20 November 12
Quote from: Shaun M. Neary on 19:39, 18 November 12
Just wondering if this would qualify, but what about Italy 1990 - The World Cup Starts here by U.S Gold?
I don't think a lot of these hit the shelves because there was a bug in the game where the the losing team is announced the winner. So they repackaged the game after the bug was fixed and released it as Italy 1990 - Winners Edition.
That would probably make the original release somewhat of a rarity?
i know the game your on about as i have it so i will check mine to see which version it is
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: buzby on 04:13, 20 November 12
Post by: buzby on 04:13, 20 November 12
i have just brought this due to the fact that i have never seen this edition before and i didnt know that codemasters did a plus version of there games
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PROFESSIONAL-BMX-SIMULATOR-FOR-AMSTRAD-LARGE-CASSETTE-CASE-VERY-GOOD-CON-V-RARE-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqV,!k0FBR67QW-sBQ(1DhOl2Q~~60_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PROFESSIONAL-BMX-SIMULATOR-FOR-AMSTRAD-LARGE-CASSETTE-CASE-VERY-GOOD-CON-V-RARE-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqV,!k0FBR67QW-sBQ(1DhOl2Q~~60_12.JPG)
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 04:57, 20 November 12
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 04:57, 20 November 12
Quote from: buzby on 04:10, 20 November 12
i know the game your on about as i have it so i will check mine to see which version it is
It's very easy to tell them apart:
Original version: (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTIwWDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqVHJDcE9!T+Rz0RBPVTccrZjw~~60_35.JPG)
Winners edition: (http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2527/p1080317g.jpg)
The loading screens differed slightly too, the Subtitle under the Italy 1990 logo changed from "The World Cup Starts Here" to "Winners Edition"
Not sure how many of the originals got out before the fixed version replaced it.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Xyphoe on 05:03, 20 November 12
Post by: Xyphoe on 05:03, 20 November 12
Winners Edition also appeared on other formats (eg C64) - I don't think they had the same bug but a few player names were adjusted to match the actual squads used in the finals.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Bryce on 09:40, 20 November 12
Post by: Bryce on 09:40, 20 November 12
Quote from: buzby on 04:13, 20 November 12
i have just brought this due to the fact that i have never seen this edition before and i didnt know that codemasters did a plus version of there games
The "Plus" in "CodeMasters Plus" doesn't mean it's for the CPC Plus. It was just their name for re-released games with bonus content.
Bryce.
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 16:20, 20 November 12
Post by: Shaun M. Neary on 16:20, 20 November 12
Quote from: Xyphoe on 05:03, 20 November 12
Winners Edition also appeared on other formats (eg C64) - I don't think they had the same bug but a few player names were adjusted to match the actual squads used in the finals.
They all have one thing in common, once the Winners edition arrived, the original disappeared off the shelves pretty quickly.
It's almost as if they were recalled and replaced. By proxy, it would make the first release a rarity for all formats, no?
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: buzby on 16:01, 26 February 13
Post by: buzby on 16:01, 26 February 13
So today I have managed to pick up the original back to the future game by electric dreams
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Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Gryzor on 16:07, 26 February 13
Post by: Gryzor on 16:07, 26 February 13
Where's the photo then? :D
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: buzby on 18:19, 26 February 13
Post by: buzby on 18:19, 26 February 13
Quote from: Gryzor on 16:07, 26 February 13just for you gryzor ;D
Where's the photo then? :D
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: buzby on 18:24, 26 February 13
Post by: buzby on 18:24, 26 February 13
i also picked these up, thanks yoshi doshi
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: yoshi.doshi on 02:11, 27 February 13
Post by: yoshi.doshi on 02:11, 27 February 13
Quote from: buzby on 18:24, 26 February 13
i also picked these up, thanks yoshi doshi
No worries glad to add to your already impressive collection!! And your not to far away!!
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: yoshi.doshi on 02:54, 27 February 13
Post by: yoshi.doshi on 02:54, 27 February 13
these were hard for me to find!!
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Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: Gryzor on 12:16, 27 February 13
Post by: Gryzor on 12:16, 27 February 13
@Buzby: Heh, cheers. You know we're all suckers for retro pr0n :D
@yoshi: these look like new!
@yoshi: these look like new!
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: beaker on 14:25, 27 February 13
Post by: beaker on 14:25, 27 February 13
Nice, I wouldn't mind finding a copy of the Indy game myself one day.
I'll shove on the copy of Prehistorik 2 I bought a few months back as well for the hell of it as it took me 10 years to buy a copy ???
I'll shove on the copy of Prehistorik 2 I bought a few months back as well for the hell of it as it took me 10 years to buy a copy ???
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: yoshi.doshi on 23:22, 28 February 13
Post by: yoshi.doshi on 23:22, 28 February 13
Quote from: Gryzor on 12:16, 27 February 13
@Buzby: Heh, cheers. You know we're all suckers for retro pr0n :D
@yoshi: these look like new!
Indy i think is new old stock! picked it up with a couple of other cassette small box releases including smash tv which i had only on budget (hit squad)
But Dracula and the 6128 training course are just in well looked after condition!!
Title: Re: rarest / hard to find software
Post by: TFM on 23:52, 28 February 13
Post by: TFM on 23:52, 28 February 13
I bet nobody is able to find a German version of Gunship (it does exist I had a copy, then bought the original... it was French! :( ).