X-Mass help please

[angelcaio]

It's possible to connect the DOM disk to the PC whit a adapter IDE 44 male to IDE 40 male and a standard 
IDE 40 pines cable?
Possible to copy, read, format...?
Need power supply?



For example this adapter is valid?

2 5 IDE 44 Pin Male to 40 Pin 3 5 IDE Male Dom HDD Adapter 40pin 44pin M M |


Thanks in advance.

[TotO]

I have already bought this adapter. It not work. (I have hacked a ribbon cable with pins for my tests)
I think that I will have to build my own adapter to plug over a 2"1/2 IDE to USB reader and allow CPC users what you are asking.

[Cpcmaniaco]

I buy this adapter and work OK for me :


44pin IDE male to male M-M extension adapter converter card [ST4444] - $5.99 :


With an adapter like this :


New USB 2 0 to IDE SATA 5 25 s ATA 2 5 3 5 Adapter Cable HG | eBay

[Audronic]

If anybody is interested (and this was inspired by CraigsBar's excellent SymbOS Quick Start Guide  ).

Here is what I did to get BonnyDOS working with the X-Mass.

There is no English User Manual as far a I can tell...so here goes.

Get the ROMs/Files from here...BonnyDOS - CPCWiki

* BonnyDOS ROMs (v1.72) <-- Use these ROMs (BDOS ROM + 2x Addon ROMs)
* BonnyDOS System Disks <-- Use the Setup on these Discs

Note: The System Disc's include the slightly earlier version 1.71 BDOS ROM.

Place the ROM(s) in positions below the AmsDOS ROM in postition 7

* BonnyDOS does not replace the AmsDOS ROM.

I placed them in positions 4, 5, 6.

On the 'SetupA' disc, run"disce (English).

The initial screen is in German, but once loaded the Menu's are in English.

Select 'Install'.

Select 'Create'.

For a single partition, select 'Maximum' then 'Go'.

The partition is created and then you are asked to create a Supervisor Account.

Select 'Yes' and follow steps (choose user & password).

After partitioning your disk, it must be formatted.

Exit the setup utility.

Reboot the CPC and Enter |LOGIN

Enter your previously configured 'User & password'

Enter |FORMAT

When formatting is completed you can enter a partition/disk name.

Once completed, reboot the CPC.

Now you should be able to access the X-mass with |C and 'cat'.

To go back to the 'A' drive enter |AMS

You can create folders (directories) with the |MD,"DISK1" command (DISK1 is an example only).

You can copy files from the 'A' drive to the 'C' drive with |DCOPY,"TEST.BAS" or *.BAS etc.

* Remember to go into the directory on 'C' that you want the files copied to before beginning the copy.

* Note, BonnyDOS uses it's own File System. SymbOS cannot read it once formatted under BonnyDOS.


Cheers,
Shane

Hi Shane


BonnyDos and the 6128 Plus X-Mem and X-Mass

Hi I am able to install the 3 BonnyDos Roms ok into the X-mem.
I have put them into 4-5-6

BUT when i reboot (After full power down) or just reset.
The machine locks up at the BonnyDos Line.

Do I have to Format - Partition the DOM in some way

Sorry for the poor second photo.
This was obtained by switching out the roms so i could run the DISCE installer.

Thanks   Ray

[00WReX]

Hi Ray,

Yes the X-Mass/DOM will need to be formatted with the BDOS config tool.

On the 'SetupA' disc, run"disce (English).

The initial screen is in German, but once loaded the Menu's are in English.

Select 'Install'.

Select 'Create'.

For a single partition, select 'Maximum' then 'Go'.

The partition is created and then you are asked to create a Supervisor Account.

Select 'Yes' and follow steps (choose user & password).

After partitioning your disk, it must be formatted.

Exit the setup utility.

Reboot the CPC and Enter |LOGIN

Enter your previously configured 'User & password'

Enter |FORMAT

When formatting is completed you can enter a partition/disk name.

Once completed, reboot the CPC.

Now you should be able to access the X-mass with |C and 'cat'.

Cheers,
Shane


EDIT 1:Ooh, I just re-read what you wrote and realised you are locking up after installing the ROMs, therefore you cannot get to format.

Mmm, it's been a long time since I did all my config of BDOS (Still working like a charm by the way).

I will have to think some more (it's a shame you are not just around the corner, could have a look for you).

EDIT 2: That first screen shot seems to ring a bell...I'm sure that happened to me at some point during my initial attempts with BDOS. Hmmm

EDIT 3: First thought, ensure all other ROMS are parked...just leave the BDOS ROMs active (if you have not tried that already).

Cheers,
Shane

[TotO]

Really strange... 
I will do some extra test this sunday, because that worked fine for me and no problem to format before shipping them.

[Audronic]

Hi Ray,

Yes the X-Mass/DOM will need to be formatted with the BDOS config tool.

Cheers,
Shane


EDIT 1:Ooh, I just re-read what you wrote and realised you are locking up after installing the ROMs, therefore you cannot get to format.

Mmm, it's been a long time since I did all my config of BDOS (Still working like a charm by the way).

I will have to think some more (it's a shame you are not just around the corner, could have a look for you).




EDIT 2: That first screen shot seems to ring a bell...I'm sure that happened to me at some point during my initial attempts with BDOS. Hmmm


If it comes to the front please tell me.




EDIT 3: First thought, ensure all other ROMS are parked...just leave the BDOS ROMs active (if you have not tried that already).


Yes i have decommisioned all the Roms Including FW3.15 (and 3.16) and have only the BDos  Roms active, and changed DOM
I will do some Voltage and ripple tests tomorrow.


Its looking like the X-Mass board is unwell.


Cheers,
Shane

Oops answers in the Quote Above.

Thanks Ray

[Audronic]

Well, this cable should do it. The closest lower pin on the right corresponds to pin 1 of the DOM. On the left the corresponding pin is the closest upper pin, which corresponds to pin 1 of a 44-pin IDE drive. I've ordered an IDE to USB adapter.

Hi protek


Did the Male to Male adapter work with the 128 Meg DOM


Thanks    Ray

[angelcaio]

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[angelcaio]

I buy this adapter and work OK for me :


44pin IDE male to male M-M extension adapter converter card [ST4444] - $5.99 :


With an adapter like this :


New USB 2 0 to IDE SATA 5 25 s ATA 2 5 3 5 Adapter Cable HG | eBay

Thank you very much.
Almost two months after I received the ide male-male adapter and it works perfectly for me. I could transfer to the videos for SymbOS: More than 40 mb

[Audronic]

@angelcaio


Thanks for the Photo of the Sintech adapter.
I had just ordered this one about a week ago from china.


2 Adapters, 2 Cables


Sintech 2SET 44pin IDE Male TO Male Extension Adapter Card 10cms Cable 4 DOM SSD


waiting for its arrival.


Ray

[SOS]

Do i need some special male-male adapter for a cheap USB2IDE (ebay) or is a simple 1:1 44-pin connecting plug (male-male) ok?
When i remove the DOM from the XMASS, i see the message  "Pins are inverted" - what does it mean?

[TotO]

USB2IDE devices are 2.5" female, like the DOM. You only require a male/male gender adapter to plug it.
The message "Pins are inverted" inform that you have to plug the DOM on the other way[nb]It is a board design optimisation. Best, this allow to directly plug a CF card adapter on it.[/nb]. It's why the DOM key was cut...
(take care to plug it on the good way to the PC, else it will be not detected)

[Audronic]

Do i need some special male-male adapter for a cheap USB2IDE (ebay) or is a simple 1:1 44-pin connecting plug (male-male) ok?

@SOS.
I am purchasing this adapter for the DOM I use in the X-Mass.
Sintech 2set 44pin IDE male to male extension adapter card+10cms cable 4 DOM SSD

Ray

[TotO]

I am purchasing this adapter for the DOM I use in the X-Mass.

Expensive for what it is... I should build some of them for peoples requiring that.

[Audronic]

@TotO
""  Expensive for what it is... I should build some of them for peoples requiring that. ""
You do get 2 Adapters and 2 Cables


Damn, to late.

Oh Well   Ray

[TotO]

Oups... I have not seen that was a set of two! 

By the way, the ribbon cable is not required. This should be enough:
44 Pin 44pin Male IDE PATA to 44pin 44 Pin Male IDE PATA M M Adapter | eBay

[Audronic]

@Tot0


I Looked for about 3 Hours thing to find that adapter but we must get a different Ebay feed Down here.
I also found from the same company Sintech has a 40 - 40 Male - Male for an other project i am working with.


Thanks for the link.


Ray

[TotO]

Ray,

If your item was not sent, you should see with the seller to cancel it. 

[Audronic]

Tot0


To late already they have sent it about a week ago.
Now if it was coming from France it should be here tomorrow.


Ray

[TotO]

To late already they have sent it about a week ago.
Now if it was coming from France it should be here tomorrow.

Hahaha! 
May be someone leaving South-Australia will be interested to get your second adapter in 7 days! 

[Audronic]

@TotO


? Who is Leaving South Australia, is He/She coming to Melbourne. It might be here by then, I only want 1 Adapter.


Thanks


Ray

[SOS]

This should be enough:
44 Pin 44pin Male IDE PATA to 44pin 44 Pin Male IDE PATA M M Adapter | eBay

Do you think, a more simple solution will work?
IDE PATA Adapter 44 Pin 44 Pin Mit Male Stecker Auf Beiden Seiten | eBay

[Audronic]

@SOS


No. 1=2, 2=1, 3=4, 4=3 etc


Ray

[Audronic]

This adapter works with the DOMs


Ray