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Title: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: chinnyhill10 on 22:38, 21 July 14
Another visit to the Amsoft vaults of tat and this time it's The Game Of Dragons.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw3FB9lodsM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw3FB9lodsM#ws)


Always found it curious why it doesn't have the standard Amsoft loading screen. But then again they seemed to move away from the standard loading screen around this time anyway.
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: MacDeath on 23:19, 21 July 14
A bit slow but nice animation and graphics indeed.
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: CraigsBar on 23:39, 21 July 14
Another reasonable looking Amsoft Title I had not heard of before, thanks for that. Perhaps not the best looking Amsoft, Personally I think that goes to Airwolf, although in the case of that game looks are deceiving, It looks decent but is nearly impossible not to get frustrated to hell with the controls and tighter than tight environment.


Oh well at least this one looks playable. Not as addictive as Oh Mummy! I bet.


Craig

Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: chinnyhill10 on 05:40, 22 July 14
Quote from: MacDeath on 23:19, 21 July 14
A bit slow but nice animation and graphics indeed.


The eggs remind me of Penguin Land on the Master System. That also came out in 1985 but the author can't have possibly have seen it so I think it's just coincidence.
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: arnoldemu on 09:23, 22 July 14
Quote from: MacDeath on 23:19, 21 July 14
A bit slow but nice animation and graphics indeed.
I was thinking the same.
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: robcfg on 11:58, 22 July 14
Looks definitely nice! But these yellow dragons are a bunch of bastards... XD
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: Carnivius on 12:05, 22 July 14
For a 1985 game, particularly an Amsoft game, that looks pretty damn lovely.  The graphic artist certainly had some talent and understanding about how to use the wide-pixels.  Does anyone know who it was and if they did any more games?
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: pinace on 16:39, 22 July 14
I think it's the only Amstrad CPC game that made O. Goodman
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: arnoldemu on 17:29, 22 July 14
Quote from: pinace on 16:39, 22 July 14
I think it's the only Amstrad CPC game that made O. Goodman
correct.

This is from his Linkedin profile:
"
University of Oxford (https://www.linkedin.com/edu/school?id=12716&trk=prof-edu-school-name)BA, Mathematics (https://www.linkedin.com/search?search=&keywords=Mathematics&sortCriteria=R&keepFacets=true&trk=prof-edu-field_of_study)1983 – 1986During my first long vacation I wrote a video game for the Amstrad CPC 464 which I was able to sell for enough money to keep me out of debt for the remainder of student years.
Activities and Societies: Played Bridge (https://www.linkedin.com/search?search=&keywords=Played+Bridge&sortCriteria=R&keepFacets=true&trk=prof-edu-activities_and_societies), Croquet (https://www.linkedin.com/search?search=&keywords=Croquet&sortCriteria=R&keepFacets=true&trk=prof-edu-activities_and_societies), Squash. (https://www.linkedin.com/search?search=&keywords=Squash%2E&sortCriteria=R&keepFacets=true&trk=prof-edu-activities_and_societies)"

Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: pinace on 18:08, 22 July 14
Only if possible ... Can you say the name of the programmer? Is to update the entry in cpc-power :)
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: arnoldemu on 18:26, 22 July 14
Quote from: pinace on 18:08, 22 July 14
Only if possible ... Can you say the name of the programmer? Is to update the entry in cpc-power :)
Oliver Goodman.
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: chinnyhill10 on 18:56, 22 July 14
It is basically a Chuckie Egg variant. but one with awful collision detection and infuriating enemy AI. The speed isn't so much the problem but like so many games of the era the AI is unforgiving.
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: pinace on 19:50, 22 July 14
Quote from: arnoldemu on 18:26, 22 July 14
Oliver Goodman.

Thanks ;)
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: Carnivius on 21:40, 22 July 14
Quote from: chinnyhill10 on 18:56, 22 July 14
It is basically a Chuckie Egg variant. but one with awful collision detection and infuriating enemy AI. The speed isn't so much the problem but like so many games of the era the AI is unforgiving.

I dunno.  I quite enjoyed it when I played it earlier and I was never fond of Chuckie Egg.  :)
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: dragon on 21:54, 22 July 14
Ohh, this is my holy grail game,I mean i am the owner of the only copy Conserved(of the spanish versión) with the blue caratule :).

I conserved it from 16  years? was a gift from a pool partner.(he gift me her all games).


Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: Carnivius on 21:56, 22 July 14
Quote from: chinnyhill10 on 18:56, 22 July 14
It is basically a Chuckie Egg variant. but one with awful collision detection and infuriating enemy AI. The speed isn't so much the problem but like so many games of the era the AI is unforgiving.

Just wondering if these things can be 'fixed' somehow by one of the talented codey folks on this forum.
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: pelrun on 07:24, 23 July 14
I'm of the opinion that the AI doesn't really need to be 'fixed' - it's frustrating, sure, but the behaviour is completely deterministic.


The trick to completing a level is learning how to manipulate the dragons - I was almost screaming at the video because it was blindingly obvious to me that all Chinny had to do to avoid those two yellow dragons was to wait at one point for just a couple of seconds longer instead of rushing forward. That would have got them down onto a lower platform and stuck there for long enough to go up and around them.
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: Axelay on 12:45, 23 July 14
This was amongst the first dozen or so games I had for the CPC, and I guess I have a soft spot for it as it had the first real clever use of colour in mode 0 that I had seen.  I never had a problem with the AI either, two of the three standard dragons simply follow paths from memory and the yellow ones, as pelrun says, were easy enough to manipulate if you just use their predictable AI to make them go where you want.


The only real problem I had with the game was that it could be quite fiddly to get on the vines, and just felt less responsive than it should.  In a way the low speed of the game helped counter this, but of course control is a pretty fundamental part of a game so the problem is not trivial.  A nice early effort though, I thought.
Title: Re: ChinnyVision - The Game Of Dragons
Post by: chinnyhill10 on 18:43, 23 July 14
Quote from: pelrun on 07:24, 23 July 14
I'm of the opinion that the AI doesn't really need to be 'fixed' - it's frustrating, sure, but the behaviour is completely deterministic.


The trick to completing a level is learning how to manipulate the dragons - I was almost screaming at the video because it was blindingly obvious to me that all Chinny had to do to avoid those two yellow dragons was to wait at one point for just a couple of seconds longer instead of rushing forward. That would have got them down onto a lower platform and stuck there for long enough to go up and around them.


From having now played it more, they do move in a predicable pattern but it often seems to be pot luck if the collision detection actually works or if they move towards you or not. Sometimes you can overlap them and not die, other times you do.
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