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General Category => NC100, NC200, PCW, PDA600 - the rest of the Family! => Topic started by: empirerecords on 21:26, 13 November 12

Title: PCW on the internet??! Telnet?? IRC??
Post by: empirerecords on 21:26, 13 November 12
Hey all


Is it possible to get a PCW on the web? Obviously i don't mean to use a browser or anything but... is it possible to get it on IRC? or get it onto Telnet??


I've seen this http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/File:Cps8256-case-upper.jpg (http://www.cpcwiki.eu/index.php/File:Cps8256-case-upper.jpg) could this be used?


I had a commodore 64 which i got online... just wondered if it could be done with the PCW too...?


What can be done?? What can't be done? please fill me in! :)
Title: Re: PCW on the internet??! Telnet?? IRC??
Post by: Bryce on 22:24, 13 November 12
The retro way of doing it, would be to get one of these: CPS-8256 seriell / parallel Interface Schneider Joyce PCW dt. Centronics Stecker (http://www.ebay.de/itm/CPS-8256-seriell-parallel-Interface-Schneider-Joyce-PCW-dt-Centronics-Stecker-/230833719119?pt=Klassische_Computer&hash=item35bec3074f)
and connect an analogue modem to it. That way you could at least connect to ISPs that still offer analogue dial-up. I don't think there are any modern expansions to get you a better connection.
Not sure what software is available either.

Bryce.
Title: Re: PCW on the internet??! Telnet?? IRC??
Post by: empirerecords on 23:00, 13 November 12
Is there anyway to dial up to another PC on the network like modem to modem to then share the broadband between the 2 machines (limited at 14/28/56k obviously...) ??


I have seen that device... very interesting indeed! What would the not so retro way of doing it be??
Title: Re: PCW on the internet??! Telnet?? IRC??
Post by: Bryce on 23:06, 13 November 12
Telnet to a Linux box.

Bryce.
Title: Re: PCW on the internet??! Telnet?? IRC??
Post by: arnoldemu on 10:10, 14 November 12
Quote from: Bryce on 23:06, 13 November 12
Telnet to a Linux box.

Bryce.
You probably need to use a "slip" connection to a linux box. it acts as the gateway for the internet traffic.
connect to it via a rs232 interface (the cps thing).

the more modern equivalent, but which may not be possible on the pcw is the ppp protocol.
I believe slip is simpler.

http://www.stevengibson.org/cgi-bin/smalllinux.pl?Slip_Networking (http://www.stevengibson.org/cgi-bin/smalllinux.pl?Slip_Networking)
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/ (http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/)

I'm guessing that is the only way for the pcw at this time?

True telnet can be used over this connection.

the potential problem is that ppp requires an ip stack.
*however* if there was a port of contiki to the pcw which used cps, then that would work.


http://contiki.sourceforge.net (http://contiki.sourceforge.net)
Title: Re: PCW on the internet??! Telnet?? IRC??
Post by: Gryzor on 15:16, 14 November 12
Ohhh SLIP, this brings back memories... 

Last night they had Art of War, that ancient horrible movie, on TV and they showed the screen of a '95 box dialing up... soooo high-tech! :D
Title: Re: PCW on the internet??! Telnet?? IRC??
Post by: Munchausen on 16:37, 01 February 13
SLIP requires an IP stack too (Serial Line IP, I believe). PPP is just a more modern version of more-or-less the same thing


To connect to most UNIX/Linux boxes you don't need any of this though, just a serial connection and a terminal emulator on the PCW. Set up the Linux/UNIX box to run a console over serial and you're done. Then you can use it for irc/shell access or whatever. You either want to add a single line to /etc/inittab (a getty line... in fact most distros have a line there that you just uncomment and change the baud rate to what you want) or you can have one from boot up by adding a line to the linux boot command line. Something like console=/dev/ttyS0,9600,8n1, if memory serves (for the first serial port /dev/ttyS0 on a PC, at 9600 baud, 8 bits, no stop bits 1 parity). I don't think that's quite right, but you can find he right stuff easily by googling.
Title: Re: PCW on the internet??! Telnet?? IRC??
Post by: TFM on 22:40, 01 February 13
There is a browser for the PCW, but I dunno if the project is (dis)continued. I post a link as soon as I remember its name.
Title: Re: PCW on the internet??! Telnet?? IRC??
Post by: MacDeath on 01:16, 02 February 13
Wouldn't it be simple to have a CP/M based net solution?


This could be a nice way to have it working on most Z80 machines as well, perhaps (still the hardware solution would need to be easily available too).
Title: Re: PCW on the internet??! Telnet?? IRC??
Post by: TFM on 01:51, 02 February 13
MacDeath is back!!! YaY!!! Missed you buggy ... ehm. buddy! :)
Title: Re: PCW on the internet??! Telnet?? IRC??
Post by: mike osullivan on 19:09, 27 September 13
Well sorry for digging up this post but: if you guys wanna surf the net on your PCW then this is what you need :-

CP/M CONNECTIONS: Quijote (http://cpm-connections.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Quijote)

see this guys latest blog loads of PCW gui goodness:

CP/M CONNECTIONS: Z80 (http://cpm-connections.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Z80)

Yes web browser still actively maintained it seems. :)
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